Alcoholics Anonymous

wagon · wagon

As we go through the day we pause, when agitated or doubtful, and ask for the right thought or action. We constantly remind ourselves we are no longer running the show, humbly saying to ourselves many times each day "Thy will be done." We are then in much less danger of excitement, fear, anger, worry, se...

Phil · Phil

The price of dishonesty is self-destruction. --Rita Mae Brown There once was a woman who told her husband what she thought he wanted to hear. She told him she was happy when she wasn't. She told him she liked his friends when she didn't. She tried to figure out what he wanted so she could do it for hi...

Toni Baloney · Toni Baloney

Hello to all on this Forum, Just want to check in. Thank's to all that contribute to this Forum, I stumbled onto (Well not literally, that's what I use to do). Only 8 day ago, and I feel like I've been here a longer time. I find this Forum a "Comfort". I told everyone that whe...

Phil · Phil

Subject: Fw: Fw: THE LADY IN ROOM 302 >>>> >> >>>Room 302 - Anyone who has ever had a loved one in the hospital >>>will enjoy this: >> >> A woman called a local hospital. "Hello. Could you connect me >>to >>...

Doll · Doll

Jeff0500 · Jeff0500

Hi: I added a little more to my bio. Hope radtk is feeling better this morning. Been thinking again of all the $ I could save If quit drinking, and smoking. $250.00 a month!!! Thats what Im spending. Not including the junk I won on Ebay. And I wont have to run to the computer for damage control on the dumb ema...

Doll · Doll

I had dinner with a friend last night and he asked if it would bother me if he had a glass of wine. (He's not in the program, and doesn't need to be.) I honestly answered him "no, I don't mind." He poured 1/2 a glass, took one sip, put the glass on the counter and went outside to check the food on the grill...

Doll · Doll

A sponsor and his newcomer were at a meeting when the newcomer suddenly collapsed, went into cardiac arrest and fell to the floor. The paramedics arrived, performed CPR and brought the newcomer back to life. "My GOD!", said the sponsor. "I thought we had lost you". The newcomer looked up and told his s...

jeannie · jeannie

I was looking at the calendar today and I can not believe I actually got this far without taking a drink! This program, the support from the people on the board, the face to face meetings and of coarse support from friends and family. I just can not believe it.&n...

Doll · Doll

SUIT UP AND SHOW UP  

james_dean · james_dean

I was just wanting to see an average of, how long some might have drank and how much on average. I am trying to see were I fit in to this group... Thank you and sorry for the question.. I just am curious... Thanks all James P.s I tried the AA Chat no luck tonight..No one on??? GOD Bless -- Edited by jam...

james_dean · james_dean

I just had a question? I left a post about a young man I had read about in the local newspaper. He was 30 years old and lost his battle to Alcoholism.. I am 32 and scared .. I have been drinking regular for the last 5 years and a twelve pack a night for the last 2 years.. My mother also died of cirrosis at age 4...

james_dean · james_dean

I am just starting my steps to recovery. I am 32 years old and have drank for the last 5 years. The last 2 plus years it has been a 12 pack a night. I read an obituary 3 days ago about a young man , 30 years of age , he lost his battle with alcoholism. I quit drinking 3 days ago. I don't have any shake...

amanda2u2 · amanda2u2

I see you're still online, James,, so I went into chat.. if you see this and come in I'll be there,, if there is a long delay in posting... well.. we'll see if we connect. amanda

ThreeBrothers · ThreeBrothers

I heard that there is a new drug that could be prescribed soon. I think it is called Vivitrex - once monthly injection into the buttocks. I'm not sure how I feel about it. Does anyone know anything about this drug?

Doll · Doll

Where are you? I miss you............Love and hugs, Doll

Doll · Doll

PROBLEM SOLVING  

Phil · Phil

To laugh, is to risk playing the fool. To weep, is to risk appearing sentimental. To reach out to another, is to risk involvement. To expose feelings, is to risk exposing our true selves. To put your ideas, your dreams, before the crowd is to risk loss. To love, is to risk not being loved in retur...

Toni Baloney · Toni Baloney

-- Edited by Toni Baloney at 23:27, 2006-06-30

radtk018 · radtk018

My name is Amy and it's Christmas Day. Please, excuse my writing. Typically, I never mispell a word but I have a buzz right now. I want to quit. I've been to AA meetings twice during my lifetime. I'm a 41 year old female. I started drinking again after 7 years of so...

recovering jb · recovering jb

I thought I'd bring up this topic- Most of the end of my using and drinking was alone, and I have little desire to have any contact with many of the people I did hang aroudn during those last years of active addiction- But I have one friend of seven years who seems to be able to control his using/drinking, fu...

amanda2u2 · amanda2u2

to get into the meeting room, or chat room,,, you must scroll down a bit from the screen that you first see.. and then wait.. when the meeting room comes up.. it will give you a guest number.. type in a nickname.. and then you're in business

Phil · Phil

DON'T QUIT! When things go wrong as they sometimes will When the road you're trudging seems all up hill When the funds are low and the debts are high And you want to smile, but you have to sigh When care is pressing you down a bit Rest, if you must, but don't you quit. Life is queer, with its twists and t...

missdeedee70 · missdeedee70

I did it again!! I drank and I got drunk. I'm totally miserable today.I feel sick,I'm depressed and embarrassed. I just want to crawl in a big cave and stay there! Hopefully I can find lots of friends here that will keep me from being so bored and lonely than I might can stay sober.

Chrisb · Chrisb

This can be your place of refuge also. Here, there are no presidents or leaders. We are all equal. We are here to be of service to you. So, come on in and join our little family!

Budw · Budw

300 days sober today; 1st Christmas that I can remenber being sober!!!!!!!!!!!

Pixie711 · Pixie711

Hi, I'm new here.... im 22 and ive been sober for over a year but im having a really hard time with the holidays.. theres so much wine it just kills me.. i havnt had the urge to drink in a pretty long time but i really want to drink some of that wine.. im really having a hard time.. any advice??

Jeff0500 · Jeff0500

So I was going to load up on beer today and listen to the Bears Packers game. I stocked up yesterday cause the liquor stores dont open till later on Sunday If at all on Christmas sround here. But I didnt feel lke drinking, being drunk on beer last three days my stomach just wanted to eat so I coo...

Doll · Doll

 

Doll · Doll

If we are painstaking about this phase of our development, we will be amazed before we are half way through. We are going to know a new freedom and a new happiness. We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it. We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know peace. No matter how far...

Doll · Doll

A.A. Thought For The Day Many alcoholics will be saying today: "This is a good Christmas for me." They will be looking back over the past Christmases w...

Doll · Doll

AT PEACE WITH LIFE Every day is a day when we must carry the vision of God's will into all of our activities. "How can I best serve Thee - Thy will (not mine) be done." ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 85 I read this passage each morning, to start off my day, because it is a continual reminder to "practice these prin...

Toni Baloney · Toni Baloney

Hello everyone, i know it is Sunday, Christmas morning, and I know, we are taught to just stay in the Day we are in, (Just for Today). But my thinking is clearly around, not drinking today, going to a Meeting and REALLY looking forward to Monday morning. For all of you enjoying Christm...

Phil · Phil

We have no right to ask, when sorrow comes, Why did this happen to me? unless we ask the same question for every joy that comes our way. --Philip S. Bernstein All of us have reasons to be grateful. Usually, the word implies we have received something. We often think of gratitude as that warm feeling w...

Rick · Rick

I'd like to wish u all a very Merry Sober Christmas Every day is a day when we must carry the vision of God's will into all of our activities. "how can I best serve Thee--------Thy will ( not mine ) be done." ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS P. 85 -- Edited by Rick at 07:40, 2005-12-25

Toni Baloney · Toni Baloney

hi There Today is Christmas Eve. I want to wish all a Happy Day! I woke with a little stress over how things were going to turn out today, I live in an area where I have not made any friends yet, my Christmas Dinner was cancelled because of the Flu. So I am making this a good day, no matter what, I r...

Chrisb · Chrisb

I will be online until 9:00 cst and checking in for posts. If you need a meeting, , then post it here. -- Edited by Chrisb at 19:52, 2005-12-23 -- Edited by Chrisb at 19:58, 2005-12-23

amanda2u2 · amanda2u2

I want to wish all of our Jewish friends a very blessed Hannukah. Shalom, amanda

Doll · Doll

Happy Holidays Robert Burney M.A. “We need to become clear internally on what messages are coming from the disease, from the old tapes, and which ones are coming from the True Self - what some people call “the small quiet voice.” “We need to turn down the volume on those loud, yammering voices that sham...

GammyRose · GammyRose

Praying all who celebrate Christmas have a great sober Christmas Eve and a blessed Christmas day. My daughter and her family are suppose to be here by noon, my son who worked until 4 am will arrive sometime today.Mom is not feeling any better, so she just wants to call Christmas off. I will be taking he...

Toni Baloney · Toni Baloney

-- Edited by Toni Baloney at 23:36, 2006-06-30

Doll · Doll

Today is what matters. The future isn't here yet. When we first heard the slogan One Day at a Time, it probably didn't mean much to us. But our program friends were quick to offer it as a solution to our incessant worrying about the future. Now we appreciate the relief that comes with living 24 ho...

Doll · Doll

   

Phil · Phil

Just to say...I wish each and every one of you..a good weekend.. For some..its a very trying ..and emotional time of year.. To anyone here..thats having a trying one...my email address is on my profile.. To anyone that wishes to chat..on Christmas day..just ship me your phone number..and Ile...

amanda2u2 · amanda2u2

I don't know if it's just me or what, but I am seeing not a complete board and the posts are out of order. April Fools? amanda

Phil · Phil

Conscience is what hurts when everything else feels good Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday I plan on living forever. So far, so good. It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask y...

Phil · Phil

And all through the house...the pink elephants were stomping..the bed was shaking...I had blown all the Christmas money..I needed a drink bad.....remorse..guilt..fear..I wanna die...I wanna live...I promise Ile never do this again.. God...and truly meaning what I said.. Ile have a g...

Chrisb · Chrisb

I propose, for this holiday weekend, if anyone can't get to an outside meeting and needs one, that we could each monitor this board for an hour or two, in case some new happens to find us and is in need. My time is cst. I can monitor from 7:00 to 9:00 AM and 7:00 to 9:00 PM. I won't be able to sit here and watch t...

Doll · Doll

RECOVERY, UNITY, SERVICE    

Toni Baloney · Toni Baloney

-- Edited by Toni Baloney at 23:13, 2006-06-30

Topic		Started By	Replies	Views	Last Post
	big book (Preview) As we go through the day we pause, when agitated or doubtful, and ask for the right thought or action. We constantly remind ourselves we are no longer running the show, humbly saying to ourselves many times each day "Thy will be done." We are then in much less danger of excitement, fear, anger, worry, se...	wagon	4	787	Dec 29, 2005 by amanda2u2
	Have The Best Day You Can Eh??? (Preview) *The price of dishonesty is self-destruction. --Rita Mae Brown* There once was a woman who told her husband what she thought he wanted to hear. She told him she was happy when she wasn't. She told him she liked his friends when she didn't. She tried to figure out what he wanted so she could do it for hi...	Phil	3	866	Dec 29, 2005 by Toni Baloney
	Gratitude (Preview) Hello to all on this Forum, Just want to check in. Thank's to all that contribute to this Forum, I stumbled onto (Well not literally, that's what I use to do). Only 8 day ago, and I feel like I've been here a longer time. I find this Forum a "Comfort". I told everyone that whe...	Toni Baloney	3	700	Dec 29, 2005 by gr8fl2dy
	Hospital Room.....302 (Preview) Subject: Fw: Fw: THE LADY IN ROOM 302 >>>> >> >>>Room 302 - Anyone who has ever had a loved one in the hospital >>>will enjoy this: >> >> A woman called a local hospital. "Hello. Could you connect me >>to >>...	Phil	11	797	Dec 29, 2005 by jeannie
	Daily Reflection Dec 29 (Preview)	Doll	0	643	Dec 29, 2005 by Doll
	just checking in (Preview) Hi: I added a little more to my bio. Hope radtk is feeling better this morning. Been thinking again of all the $ I could save If quit drinking, and smoking. $250.00 a month!!! Thats what Im spending. Not including the junk I won on Ebay. And I wont have to run to the computer for damage control on the dumb ema...	Jeff0500	14	835	Dec 28, 2005 by Jeff0500
	Not an "urge" but a "thought" (Preview) I had dinner with a friend last night and he asked if it would bother me if he had a glass of wine. (He's not in the program, and doesn't need to be.) I honestly answered him "no, I don't mind." He poured 1/2 a glass, took one sip, put the glass on the counter and went outside to check the food on the grill...	Doll	7	1474	Dec 28, 2005 by Toni Baloney
	Following Phil ;) (Preview) A sponsor and his newcomer were at a meeting when the newcomer suddenly collapsed, went into cardiac arrest and fell to the floor. The paramedics arrived, performed CPR and brought the newcomer back to life. "My GOD!", said the sponsor. "I thought we had lost you". The newcomer looked up and told his s...	Doll	2	660	Dec 28, 2005 by Toni Baloney
	Thanks to everyone (Preview) I was looking at the calendar today and I can not believe I actually got this far without taking a drink! This program, the support from the people on the board, the face to face meetings and of coarse support from friends and family. I just can not believe it.&n...	jeannie	5	689	Dec 28, 2005 by jeannie
	Daily Reflection Dec 28 (Preview) SUIT UP AND SHOW UP	Doll	3	676	Dec 28, 2005 by GammyRose
	How Long HaveYou Drank (Preview) I was just wanting to see an average of, how long some might have drank and how much on average. I am trying to see were I fit in to this group... Thank you and sorry for the question.. I just am curious... Thanks all James P.s I tried the AA Chat no luck tonight..No one on??? GOD Bless -- Edited by jam...	james_dean	9	814	Dec 28, 2005 by zoomie
	My second post (Preview) I just had a question? I left a post about a young man I had read about in the local newspaper. He was 30 years old and lost his battle to Alcoholism.. I am 32 and scared .. I have been drinking regular for the last 5 years and a twelve pack a night for the last 2 years.. My mother also died of cirrosis at age 4...	james_dean	7	928	Dec 28, 2005 by zoomie
	Just starting (Preview) I am just starting my steps to recovery. I am 32 years old and have drank for the last 5 years. The last 2 plus years it has been a 12 pack a night. I read an obituary 3 days ago about a young man , 30 years of age , he lost his battle with alcoholism. I quit drinking 3 days ago. I don't have any shake...	james_dean	4	679	Dec 28, 2005 by zoomie
	i'm in chat (Preview) *I see you're still online, James,, so I went into chat.. if you see this and come in I'll be there,, if there is a long delay in posting... well.. we'll see if we connect.* *amanda*	amanda2u2	1	835	Dec 27, 2005 by amanda2u2
	Medical intervention (Preview) I heard that there is a new drug that could be prescribed soon. I think it is called Vivitrex - once monthly injection into the buttocks. I'm not sure how I feel about it. Does anyone know anything about this drug?	ThreeBrothers	3	681	Dec 27, 2005 by Toni Baloney
	Cheeerriieee --- Weennddyy (Preview) Where are you? I miss you............Love and hugs, Doll	Doll	1	674	Dec 27, 2005 by GammyRose
	Daily Reflection Dec 27 (Preview) PROBLEM SOLVING	Doll	0	607	Dec 27, 2005 by Doll
	Risk (Preview) To laugh, is to risk playing the fool. To weep, is to risk appearing sentimental. To reach out to another, is to risk involvement. To expose feelings, is to risk exposing our true selves. To put your ideas, your dreams, before the crowd is to risk loss. To love, is to risk not being loved in retur...	Phil	1	731	Dec 27, 2005 by Toni Baloney
	Just want to say Hi (Preview) -- Edited by Toni Baloney at 23:27, 2006-06-30	Toni Baloney	2	704	Dec 27, 2005 by zoomie
	I'm drunk (Preview) My name is Amy and it's Christmas Day. Please, excuse my writing. Typically, I never mispell a word but I have a buzz right now. I want to quit. I've been to AA meetings twice during my lifetime. I'm a 41 year old female. I started drinking again after 7 years of so...	radtk018	16	955	Dec 27, 2005 by buckeyebear
	Contact with people you used to drink or use with (Preview) I thought I'd bring up this topic- Most of the end of my using and drinking was alone, and I have little desire to have any contact with many of the people I did hang aroudn during those last years of active addiction- But I have one friend of seven years who seems to be able to control his using/drinking, fu...	recovering jb	3	786	Dec 27, 2005 by amanda2u2
	to get into the chat room (Preview) to get into the meeting room, or chat room,,, you must scroll down a bit from the screen that you first see.. and then wait.. when the meeting room comes up.. it will give you a guest number.. type in a nickname.. and then you're in business	amanda2u2	2	850	Dec 26, 2005 by Toni Baloney
	Dont Quit (Preview) *DON'T QUIT!* When things go wrong as they sometimes will When the road you're trudging seems all up hill When the funds are low and the debts are high And you want to smile, but you have to sigh When care is pressing you down a bit Rest, if you must, but don't you quit. Life is queer, with its twists and t...	Phil	8	912	Dec 26, 2005 by Chrisb
	very depress (Preview) I did it again!! I drank and I got drunk. I'm totally miserable today.I feel sick,I'm depressed and embarrassed. I just want to crawl in a big cave and stay there! Hopefully I can find lots of friends here that will keep me from being so bored and lonely than I might can stay sober.	missdeedee70	5	691	Dec 26, 2005 by amanda2u2
	Hello, Guests. Don't be shy! (Preview) This can be your place of refuge also. Here, there are no presidents or leaders. We are all equal. We are here to be of service to you. So, come on in and join our little family!	Chrisb	1	711	Dec 26, 2005 by Toni Baloney
	Birthday (Preview) 300 days sober today; 1st Christmas that I can remenber being sober!!!!!!!!!!!	Budw	7	737	Dec 26, 2005 by recovering jb
	the holidays are killing me! (Preview) Hi, I'm new here.... im 22 and ive been sober for over a year but im having a really hard time with the holidays.. theres so much wine it just kills me.. i havnt had the urge to drink in a pretty long time but i really want to drink some of that wine.. im really having a hard time.. any advice??	Pixie711	6	686	Dec 26, 2005 by recovering jb
	Greetings, Im new here (Preview) So I was going to load up on beer today and listen to the Bears Packers game. I stocked up yesterday cause the liquor stores dont open till later on Sunday If at all on Christmas sround here. But I didnt feel lke drinking, being drunk on beer last three days my stomach just wanted to eat so I coo...	Jeff0500	7	953	Dec 26, 2005 by Hanuman
	Daily Reflection Dec 26 (Preview)	Doll	1	703	Dec 26, 2005 by Toni Baloney
	9th Step Promises (Preview) If we are painstaking about this phase of our development, we will be amazed before we are half way through. We are going to know a new freedom and a new happiness. We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it. We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know peace. No matter how far...	Doll	0	2267	Dec 26, 2005 by Doll
	Gratitude for many Firsts (Preview) A.A. Thought For The Day Many alcoholics will be saying today: "This is a good Christmas for me." They will be looking back over the past Christmases w...	Doll	1	683	Dec 25, 2005 by amanda2u2
	Daily Reflections Dec 25 (Preview) AT PEACE WITH LIFE Every day is a day when we must carry the vision of God's will into all of our activities. "How can I best serve Thee - Thy will (not mine) be done." ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 85 I read this passage each morning, to start off my day, because it is a continual reminder to "practice these prin...	Doll	1	715	Dec 25, 2005 by GammyRose
	Here's to Monday (Preview) Hello everyone, i know it is Sunday, Christmas morning, and I know, we are taught to just stay in the Day we are in, (Just for Today). But my thinking is clearly around, not drinking today, going to a Meeting and REALLY looking forward to Monday morning. For all of you enjoying Christm...	Toni Baloney	2	754	Dec 25, 2005 by GammyRose
	Sunday (Preview) *We have no right to ask, when sorrow comes, Why did this happen to me? unless we ask the same question for every joy that comes our way. --Philip S. Bernstein* All of us have reasons to be grateful. Usually, the word implies we have received something. We often think of gratitude as that warm feeling w...	Phil	1	674	Dec 25, 2005 by Phil
	Merry Christmas (Preview) I'd like to wish u all a very Merry Sober Christmas Every day is a day when we must carry the vision of God's will into all of our activities. "how can I best serve Thee--------Thy will ( not mine ) be done." ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS P. 85 -- Edited by Rick at 07:40, 2005-12-25	Rick	3	814	Dec 25, 2005 by Phil
	It's Christmas Eve (Preview) hi There Today is Christmas Eve. I want to wish all a Happy Day! I woke with a little stress over how things were going to turn out today, I live in an area where I have not made any friends yet, my Christmas Dinner was cancelled because of the Flu. So I am making this a good day, no matter what, I r...	Toni Baloney	4	954	Dec 24, 2005 by Chrisb
	Need a Meeting? Post it here! (Preview) I will be online until 9:00 cst and checking in for posts. If you need a meeting, , then post it here. -- Edited by Chrisb at 19:52, 2005-12-23 -- Edited by Chrisb at 19:58, 2005-12-23	Chrisb	3	864	Dec 24, 2005 by Chrisb
	Happy Channukah (Preview) *I want to wish all of our Jewish friends a very blessed Hannukah.* *Shalom,* *amanda*	amanda2u2	2	719	Dec 24, 2005 by Phil
	Happy Holidays by Robert Burney (Preview) Happy Holidays Robert Burney M.A. “We need to become clear internally on what messages are coming from the disease, from the old tapes, and which ones are coming from the True Self - what some people call “the small quiet voice.” “We need to turn down the volume on those loud, yammering voices that sham...	Doll	1	991	Dec 24, 2005 by Phil
	Christmas Wishs... (Preview) Praying all who celebrate Christmas have a great sober Christmas Eve and a blessed Christmas day. My daughter and her family are suppose to be here by noon, my son who worked until 4 am will arrive sometime today.Mom is not feeling any better, so she just wants to call Christmas off. I will be taking he...	GammyRose	2	780	Dec 24, 2005 by Doll
	A Thank you Note (Preview) -- Edited by Toni Baloney at 23:36, 2006-06-30	Toni Baloney	5	1034	Dec 24, 2005 by recovering jb
	Today's Gift (Preview) *Today is what matters. The future isn't here yet.* When we first heard the slogan One Day at a Time, it probably didn't mean much to us. But our program friends were quick to offer it as a solution to our incessant worrying about the future. Now we appreciate the relief that comes with living 24 ho...	Doll	2	899	Dec 24, 2005 by Toni Baloney
	Daily Reflections Dec 24 (Preview)	Doll	1	838	Dec 24, 2005 by Phil
	Taking a Moment (Preview) Just to say...I wish each and every one of you..a good weekend.. For some..its a very trying ..and emotional time of year.. To anyone here..thats having a trying one...my email address is on my profile.. To anyone that wishes to chat..on Christmas day..just ship me your phone number..and Ile...	Phil	0	786	Dec 23, 2005 by Phil
	scrambled posts? (Preview) *I don't know if it's just me or what, but I am seeing not a complete board and the posts are out of order. April Fools?* *amanda*	amanda2u2	5	968	Dec 23, 2005 by Toni Baloney
	Thoughts For Today (Preview) Conscience is what hurts when everything else feels good Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday I plan on living forever. So far, so good. It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask y...	Phil	0	838	Dec 23, 2005 by Phil
	Twas the Friday Before Christmas (Preview) And all through the house...the pink elephants were stomping..the bed was shaking...I had blown all the Christmas money..I needed a drink bad.....remorse..guilt..fear..I wanna die...I wanna live...I promise Ile never do this again.. God...and truly meaning what I said.. Ile have a g...	Phil	3	1168	Dec 23, 2005 by wagon
	Holiday Meetings (Preview) I propose, for this holiday weekend, if anyone can't get to an outside meeting and needs one, that we could each monitor this board for an hour or two, in case some new happens to find us and is in need. My time is cst. I can monitor from 7:00 to 9:00 AM and 7:00 to 9:00 PM. I won't be able to sit here and watch t...	Chrisb	5	1099	Dec 23, 2005 by recovering jb
	Daily Reflections Dec 23 (Preview) RECOVERY, UNITY, SERVICE	Doll	2	899	Dec 23, 2005 by recovering jb
	Good Days and Bad Days (Preview) -- Edited by Toni Baloney at 23:13, 2006-06-30	Toni Baloney	5	1151	Dec 23, 2005 by zoomie
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