Alcoholics Anonymous

justadrunk · justadrunk

My father is still an active alcoholic, but does not appear as society does portray. He's college educated, drives a brand new car, has his own CPA office and has successfully worked as a business owner in that fashion for 30 years. He has never had a DWI, he has never been a shame publicly as a drunken fat...

chelsea · chelsea

Hi everyone, I'm sure this has already been posted, and my apologies... I just finished the movie "Smashed" and while yes, it is inspirational and helpful, it is also triggering things in me... during the beginning as she had the flask in her car and drank before work, I definitely wanted...

Lolitabonita · Lolitabonita

Hi everyone! I'm 4 days sober coming back from a month long relapse out of a treatment center and it's been one of the most eye opening and life changing experiences I've ever had. It was my 3rd time in treatment and this is my 6th relapse while in the program. When I got out of treatment my boyfriend of 5 yea...

Closer · Closer

Hi, Ive been trying to post things on this site every now and then and be of help to others who suffer from alcoholism. Ive attended 140 meetings in my area in the last while and I keep hearing a thing about "surrender" I've heard people saying you need to surrender and Ive heard others sayi...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

"A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes." - Hugh Downs

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

The evolution of human growth is an evolution from an absolute need to be loved towards a full readiness to give love.--Dr. Karl SternAs children, we looked to our parents for love, for clothes and food, for an indication of who we were. If our needs were met, we felt secure. As developing adults, we sti...

Mike B. · Mike B.

October 25 "I made the decision to turn my will and my life over to the care of God, and then I got out of the way."

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

"The best use of life is LOVE. The best expression of love is TIME. The best time to love is NOW." - Rick Warren

Jerry F · Jerry F

Aloha MIP Family...bringing it here; the hindsight inventory of alcoholism in my life including my eldest relapsing son. It is what is is and was what it was and I didn't have near enough information and awareness as I have today about it. As I have said; which is true, when I got into program I was as du...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Mike B. · Mike B.

October 23 "To be teachable, I had to be reachable."

gonee · gonee

Thanks for all your posts. I have just been tired and stressed out mostly work related. But God has used it for His glory. There were 2 nice posts on this board recently which lifted me up and re-inforced my primary purpose. Thanks.

TLH · TLH

Can someone tell me where the Atheists place is in AA? Just curious.

sdcolley · sdcolley

hi- i have never tried AA before but after blacking out Saturday and hurting peoples feelings i decided it was time for a change! i got up early Sunday and attended my first AA meeting. i was so inspired and so determined to get sober. yesterday i felt great, no withdrawl symptoms, nothing! Got up agaim t...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Sounds like your drawer is full of the same chips I have ...Welcome to MIP ... we're glad you're here !!!

betterthanyesterday52 · betterthanyesterday52

Now this really scares me. It is not that I have this big secretive life that I want to keep hidden. I have, however, done a lot of things which I am not proud of and would rather keep to myself. My sponsor told me that I need to be as open with her as possible. I was reading a post about the 4th step earlier and...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Change Me --Ruth C.'s PrayerChange me, God,Please change me.Though I cringe,Kick,Resist and resent.Pay no attention to me whatsoever.When I run to hideDrag me out of my safe little shelter.Change me totally.Whatever it takes.However long You must work at the job.Change me and save me From spir...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

"Any fact facing us is not as important as our attitude toward it, for that determines our success or failure". - Norman Vincent Peal

RubyTues · RubyTues

One of my favourite authors wrote this on Facebook this morning. I thought it was beautiful, so wanted to share: Sometime a star will fall right out of the sky and land in your hand. When you ease your fingers gently closed around it, it will seep inside and become your blood, your flesh, every part of yo...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Happiness is a by product of an effort to make someone else happy. --Gretta Brooker PalmerSelf-centeredness aggravates the natural flow of circumstances surrounding us; too much attention on ourselves distorts whatever might be troubling us. However, focusing on others' needs diminishes wha...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

"Enthusiasm is the greatest asset in the world. It beats money and power and influence. It is no more or less than faith in action."- Henry Chester

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

"Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence."- Vince Lombardi

Jerry F · Jerry F

and moved on to others in the family. My eldest son has relapsed...his church program stopped working and he has flushed his life down the toilet. My daughter in law was visiting while I was a way from the house and my wife got the current story...you all know what insanity sounds like and looks like...

sharky · sharky

is anyone dealing with this issue? I am 7 months sober and have like zero interest???

nezyb · nezyb

In a meeting yesterday I listened to a gentleman share how he had just survived a life threatening illnesses. Three months in the hospital, countless set backs. The Drs telling him on more than one occasion how there was nothing more they could do. He shared how he never lost faith. How he kne...

Mike B. · Mike B.

October 22 "My anger served as an iron shield, and I refused to remove it for fear God would send me still more pain."

Closer · Closer

Repeat after me: I Will Fix Everything.. OH YES! I will fix everything....I will fix EVERYTHING "I Will Fix Everything!" Keep saying it.

Standing_Tall · Standing_Tall

Meeting the wife for lunch tomorrow. Some of you who have read some of my posts, we have been separated for over a year. We enjoyed each others company when she visited me in rehab and reconciliation was discussed (between her lawyer and mine , not with me) but since having been out, I have felt kind of out...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

October 21, 2013 Quote of the Week "God didn't save me from drowning so he could club me to death on the shore." When I crawled into recovery I was as desperate as a drowning man. My life had been overwhelmed by the tidal wave of addiction and despair, and the life boat I was clinging too was...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

I wish my parents would trust me and understand that I am trying my hardest.--AnonymousParents are hard to understand at times. Sometimes they give double messages. They tell us what is really important is that we try our hardest. Then they seem crushed when we do try our hardest but don't do as well as...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Weekly Verse"Now is your time of grief, but I will see you again and you will rejoice, and no one will take away your joy." -John 16:22Weekly Quote"God made you. He knows how you operate best. And He knows what makes you happy. The happiness He gives doesn't stop when the party's over...

hunts31 · hunts31

How does or should a group handle the bad behavior directly outside the room. My home group leased a new room in a shopping center last year. The next door neighbor is a karate school for children. The landlord has received numerous complaints of smoking, loitering, and bad behavior/language in f...

Mike B. · Mike B.

October 21 "Only by accepting my powerlessness over alcohol did I begin to discover the powers that alcohol had obliterated: God, health, truth, love, nature, fellowship, humor, creativity, and even simple daily kindness."

butch · butch

I will be on a cruise to Bermuda soon. looking for suggestions on info. to take... butch - baltimore

Mike D · Mike D

Hi everybody....I've been thinking about this lately and I hope you won't mind if I share about it. I remember back some 15 years ago when I was attending my regular Home Group meeting on a Saturday night. The chairperson had chosen "Acceptance" as the topic of discussion. We had about 75...

bikerbill · bikerbill

Who'd a thought it? 7 years and one day ago I was in a plice cell, believeing my world had collapsed and my life was worthless. Now - it's rather different. I'm enjoying sobriety and promises are coming true - like we will intuitively know..... This morning, me and the lady I've been in a relationship wit...

betterthanyesterday52 · betterthanyesterday52

I have heard in AA about "drinking dreams" that some have had after quitting alcohol. Last night, I had a dream about I was holding a shot glass. I hit it against something and I looked to see if it was damaged. A crack started at the top edge and ran down all the way in a straight line to the bot...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

"You will become as small as your controlling desire; as great as your dominant aspiration." - James Allen

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Today I Will TrustToday, I will stop straining to know what I don't know. To see what I can't see. To understand what I don't yet understand. I will trust that being is sufficient, And I will let go of my need to figure things out.

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Accepting our limitations Helen Keller said, "Life is a banquet and most of us are starving to death." Drinking and using sure kept us from seeing the beauty, the bounty in our lives. Since we recognized that we can't use or drink and got clean and sober - most of us today can get higher than ev...

Mike D · Mike D

Hi everybody! It's a beautiful day here in Iowa, and a great day to share something with you that means a lot to me. I'll start by saying that long ago, I came into A.A. with a whole lot of guilt about a whole lot of things I'd done wrong and plenty of shame about what I was....and with good reason. I'd done...

pinkchip · pinkchip

Ok...so now I'm attempting to add 2 more letters to my credentials. Hopefully within a month it will be Pinkchip, LMHC, CAP. The CAP part is what I'm going for now. It is Certified Addictions Counselor. Something I thought would be hard to attain, but as it turns out, if you have the first license th...

Jerry F · Jerry F

I can still be surprised by our disease. Cunning Powerful and Baffling and still with our program of recovery we can come out on top with more awareness and strength to keep it beat. I was working a client's home this afternoon and found myself very thirsty and of course the thirst triggered the need t...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

"Enjoy the little things, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things" - Robert Brault

Sober Strummer · Sober Strummer

life is pretty calm. Not much self generated stress or drama. It has been that way for a bit. I like real life. and i remember what i do :) Looking back after reading some great posts here today, I remember feeling a generalized anxious feeling in early sobriety.... when would the other shoe drop? W...

Mike B. · Mike B.

October 18 "One day leads to the next, no matter how unhappy I choose to be."

AdamMoz · AdamMoz

Last night I was the designated driver for my partner, who was celebrating a big work victory with colleagues at a local bar. I was happy eating peanuts and drinking Diet Pepsi for the night and we wrapped up at around 1am. For the record, bars never temp me, because my serious drinking was always done co...

bjc_nc · bjc_nc

There are no meetings near me right now and I have no one to talk to.

justadrunk · justadrunk

You are reading from the book Each Day a New Beginning When people bother you in any way, it is because their souls are trying to get your divine attention and your blessing. Catherine Ponder We are in constant communication with one another and with God in the spiritual realm. No matter how singular ou...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

This is a short 3 minute video clip that I found very meaningful ... turn your sound up ... you'll love it!!! Pappy

Topic		Started By	Replies	Views	Last Post
	Child of the alcoholic (Preview) My father is still an active alcoholic, but does not appear as society does portray. He's college educated, drives a brand new car, has his own CPA office and has successfully worked as a business owner in that fashion for 30 years. He has never had a DWI, he has never been a shame publicly as a drunken fat...	justadrunk	8	779	Oct 26, 2013 by justadrunk
	Movie: Smashed (Preview) Hi everyone, I'm sure this has already been posted, and my apologies... I just finished the movie "Smashed" and while yes, it is inspirational and helpful, it is also triggering things in me... during the beginning as she had the flask in her car and drank before work, I definitely wanted...	chelsea	8	790	Oct 25, 2013 by Pythonpappy
	Having trouble with my fiancé accepting my addiction. Advice appreciated. Relationships addiction Help advice female support (Preview) Hi everyone! I'm 4 days sober coming back from a month long relapse out of a treatment center and it's been one of the most eye opening and life changing experiences I've ever had. It was my 3rd time in treatment and this is my 6th relapse while in the program. When I got out of treatment my boyfriend of 5 yea...	Lolitabonita	13	9102	Oct 25, 2013 by justadrunk
	Can anyone tell me what Surrender is? (Preview) Hi, Ive been trying to post things on this site every now and then and be of help to others who suffer from alcoholism. Ive attended 140 meetings in my area in the last while and I keep hearing a thing about "surrender" I've heard people saying you need to surrender and Ive heard others sayi...	Closer	12	769	Oct 25, 2013 by justadrunk
	Sunrise Quote (Preview) "A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes." - Hugh Downs	Pythonpappy	1	322	Oct 25, 2013 by Mike B.
	Today's Gift (Preview) The evolution of human growth is an evolution from an absolute need to be loved towards a full readiness to give love.--Dr. Karl SternAs children, we looked to our parents for love, for clothes and food, for an indication of who we were. If our needs were met, we felt secure. As developing adults, we sti...	Pythonpappy	1	332	Oct 25, 2013 by betterthanyesterday52
	Grapevine (Preview) October 25 "I made the decision to turn my will and my life over to the care of God, and then I got out of the way."	Mike B.	2	335	Oct 25, 2013 by Mike B.
	Sunrise Quote (Preview) "The best use of life is LOVE. The best expression of love is TIME. The best time to love is NOW." - Rick Warren	Pythonpappy	1	352	Oct 25, 2013 by Mr_David
	Hindsight and worthless wishes... (Preview) Aloha MIP Family...bringing it here; the hindsight inventory of alcoholism in my life including my eldest relapsing son. It is what is is and was what it was and I didn't have near enough information and awareness as I have today about it. As I have said; which is true, when I got into program I was as du...	Jerry F	6	539	Oct 25, 2013 by Jerry F
	Happy Fall Ya'll !!! (Preview)	Pythonpappy	2	353	Oct 25, 2013 by Stepchild
	Grapevine (Preview) October 23 "To be teachable, I had to be reachable."	Mike B.	2	366	Oct 25, 2013 by betterthanyesterday52
	Hi Everyone. (Preview) Thanks for all your posts. I have just been tired and stressed out mostly work related. But God has used it for His glory. There were 2 nice posts on this board recently which lifted me up and re-inforced my primary purpose. Thanks.	gonee	10	490	Oct 25, 2013 by StPeteDean
	Hey. Long time. (Preview) Can someone tell me where the Atheists place is in AA? Just curious.	TLH	10	556	Oct 24, 2013 by justadrunk
	Less then 48 hours sober and want a drink! (Preview) hi- i have never tried AA before but after blacking out Saturday and hurting peoples feelings i decided it was time for a change! i got up early Sunday and attended my first AA meeting. i was so inspired and so determined to get sober. yesterday i felt great, no withdrawl symptoms, nothing! Got up agaim t...	sdcolley	17	909	Oct 24, 2013 by justadrunk
	Welcome xMrBunglex (Preview) Sounds like your drawer is full of the same chips I have ...Welcome to MIP ... we're glad you're here !!!	Pythonpappy	1	399	Oct 24, 2013 by betterthanyesterday52
	How Much Should I Tell My Sponsor? (Preview) Now this really scares me. It is not that I have this big secretive life that I want to keep hidden. I have, however, done a lot of things which I am not proud of and would rather keep to myself. My sponsor told me that I need to be as open with her as possible. I was reading a post about the 4th step earlier and...	betterthanyesterday52	21	674	Oct 24, 2013 by betterthanyesterday52
	Today's Gift (Preview) Change Me --Ruth C.'s PrayerChange me, God,Please change me.Though I cringe,Kick,Resist and resent.Pay no attention to me whatsoever.When I run to hideDrag me out of my safe little shelter.Change me totally.Whatever it takes.However long You must work at the job.Change me and save me From spir...	Pythonpappy	1	339	Oct 23, 2013 by Mike B.
	Sunrise Quote (Preview) "Any fact facing us is not as important as our attitude toward it, for that determines our success or failure". - Norman Vincent Peal	Pythonpappy	1	322	Oct 23, 2013 by Mike B.
	Letting go (Preview) One of my favourite authors wrote this on Facebook this morning. I thought it was beautiful, so wanted to share: Sometime a star will fall right out of the sky and land in your hand. When you ease your fingers gently closed around it, it will seep inside and become your blood, your flesh, every part of yo...	RubyTues	8	480	Oct 23, 2013 by betterthanyesterday52
	Today's Gift (Preview) Happiness is a by product of an effort to make someone else happy. --Gretta Brooker PalmerSelf-centeredness aggravates the natural flow of circumstances surrounding us; too much attention on ourselves distorts whatever might be troubling us. However, focusing on others' needs diminishes wha...	Pythonpappy	2	402	Oct 23, 2013 by Pythonpappy
	Sunrise Quote (Preview) "Enthusiasm is the greatest asset in the world. It beats money and power and influence. It is no more or less than faith in action."- Henry Chester	Pythonpappy	2	301	Oct 23, 2013 by Mike D
	Sunrise Quote (Preview) "Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence."- Vince Lombardi	Pythonpappy	0	372	Oct 22, 2013 by Pythonpappy
	It's gone past our house.... (Preview) and moved on to others in the family. My eldest son has relapsed...his church program stopped working and he has flushed his life down the toilet. My daughter in law was visiting while I was a way from the house and my wife got the current story...you all know what insanity sounds like and looks like...	Jerry F	6	390	Oct 22, 2013 by justadrunk
	sobriety and no sex drive (Preview) is anyone dealing with this issue? I am 7 months sober and have like zero interest???	sharky	18	6995	Oct 22, 2013 by Pythonpappy
	If you don't see a miracle, you're just not paying attention (Preview) In a meeting yesterday I listened to a gentleman share how he had just survived a life threatening illnesses. Three months in the hospital, countless set backs. The Drs telling him on more than one occasion how there was nothing more they could do. He shared how he never lost faith. How he kne...	nezyb	6	455	Oct 22, 2013 by betterthanyesterday52
	Grapevine (Preview) October 22 "My anger served as an iron shield, and I refused to remove it for fear God would send me still more pain."	Mike B.	2	354	Oct 22, 2013 by Pythonpappy
	Lost? Hurt? Sick? Mental? (Preview) Repeat after me: I Will Fix Everything.. OH YES! I will fix everything....I will fix EVERYTHING *"I Will Fix Everything!"* *Keep saying it.*	Closer	6	581	Oct 22, 2013 by tomsteve
	Knew this day would come....... (Preview) Meeting the wife for lunch tomorrow. Some of you who have read some of my posts, we have been separated for over a year. We enjoyed each others company when she visited me in rehab and reconciliation was discussed (between her lawyer and mine , not with me) but since having been out, I have felt kind of out...	Standing_Tall	14	649	Oct 22, 2013 by betterthanyesterday52
	Wisdom of the Rooms (Preview) October 21, 2013 Quote of the Week "God didn't save me from drowning so he could club me to death on the shore." When I crawled into recovery I was as desperate as a drowning man. My life had been overwhelmed by the tidal wave of addiction and despair, and the life boat I was clinging too was...	Pythonpappy	2	307	Oct 22, 2013 by betterthanyesterday52
	Today's Gift (Preview) I wish my parents would trust me and understand that I am trying my hardest.--AnonymousParents are hard to understand at times. Sometimes they give double messages. They tell us what is really important is that we try our hardest. Then they seem crushed when we do try our hardest but don't do as well as...	Pythonpappy	1	257	Oct 21, 2013 by Mike B.
	Caution! ... This Post contains a Religious spiritual message, if that offends you, just pass over this post! (Preview) Weekly Verse"Now is your time of grief, but I will see you again and you will rejoice, and no one will take away your joy." -John 16:22Weekly Quote"God made you. He knows how you operate best. And He knows what makes you happy. The happiness He gives doesn't stop when the party's over...	Pythonpappy	10	579	Oct 21, 2013 by Pythonpappy
	Bad Behavior bad behavior loss of meeting room (Preview) How does or should a group handle the bad behavior directly outside the room. My home group leased a new room in a shopping center last year. The next door neighbor is a karate school for children. The landlord has received numerous complaints of smoking, loitering, and bad behavior/language in f...	hunts31	15	1186	Oct 21, 2013 by Pythonpappy
	Grapevine (Preview) October 21 "Only by accepting my powerlessness over alcohol did I begin to discover the powers that alcohol had obliterated: God, health, truth, love, nature, fellowship, humor, creativity, and even simple daily kindness."	Mike B.	1	289	Oct 21, 2013 by Pythonpappy
	a.a. meeting - cruise ship (Preview) I will be on a cruise to Bermuda soon. looking for suggestions on info. to take... butch - baltimore	butch	13	5392	Oct 21, 2013 by chris
	"ANYONE ELSE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THIS STEP?" (Preview) Hi everybody....I've been thinking about this lately and I hope you won't mind if I share about it. I remember back some 15 years ago when I was attending my regular Home Group meeting on a Saturday night. The chairperson had chosen "Acceptance" as the topic of discussion. We had about 75...	Mike D	16	632	Oct 21, 2013 by Sober Strummer
	7 years today (Preview) Who'd a thought it? 7 years and one day ago I was in a plice cell, believeing my world had collapsed and my life was worthless. Now - it's rather different. I'm enjoying sobriety and promises are coming true - like we will intuitively know..... This morning, me and the lady I've been in a relationship wit...	bikerbill	12	573	Oct 21, 2013 by Fyne Spirit
	Strange But Comforting Dreams I Had Last Night (Preview) I have heard in AA about "drinking dreams" that some have had after quitting alcohol. Last night, I had a dream about I was holding a shot glass. I hit it against something and I looked to see if it was damaged. A crack started at the top edge and ran down all the way in a straight line to the bot...	betterthanyesterday52	10	621	Oct 21, 2013 by betterthanyesterday52
	Sunrise Quote (Preview) "You will become as small as your controlling desire; as great as your dominant aspiration." - James Allen	Pythonpappy	0	327	Oct 20, 2013 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift -- Have Anxiety? ... Worry A Lot? ... This One is for You! (Preview) Today I Will TrustToday, I will stop straining to know what I don't know. To see what I can't see. To understand what I don't yet understand. I will trust that being is sufficient, And I will let go of my need to figure things out.	Pythonpappy	6	353	Oct 20, 2013 by betterthanyesterday52
	Today's Gift (Preview) Accepting our limitations Helen Keller said, "Life is a banquet and most of us are starving to death." Drinking and using sure kept us from seeing the beauty, the bounty in our lives. Since we recognized that we can't use or drink and got clean and sober - most of us today can get higher than ev...	Pythonpappy	2	300	Oct 20, 2013 by Pythonpappy
	How He sees me! (Preview) Hi everybody! It's a beautiful day here in Iowa, and a great day to share something with you that means a lot to me. I'll start by saying that long ago, I came into A.A. with a whole lot of guilt about a whole lot of things I'd done wrong and plenty of shame about what I was....and with good reason. I'd done...	Mike D	11	672	Oct 20, 2013 by Pythonpappy
	More credentials (hopefully) (Preview) Ok...so now I'm attempting to add 2 more letters to my credentials. Hopefully within a month it will be Pinkchip, LMHC, CAP. The CAP part is what I'm going for now. It is Certified Addictions Counselor. Something I thought would be hard to attain, but as it turns out, if you have the first license th...	pinkchip	9	470	Oct 20, 2013 by RubyTues
	ism not was'm... (Preview) I can still be surprised by our disease. Cunning Powerful and Baffling and still with our program of recovery we can come out on top with more awareness and strength to keep it beat. I was working a client's home this afternoon and found myself very thirsty and of course the thirst triggered the need t...	Jerry F	11	634	Oct 20, 2013 by Mike D
	Sunrise Quote (Preview) "Enjoy the little things, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things" - Robert Brault	Pythonpappy	1	300	Oct 20, 2013 by Mike D
	The pond is pretty calm..... (Preview) life is pretty calm. Not much self generated stress or drama. It has been that way for a bit. I like real life. and i remember what i do :) Looking back after reading some great posts here today, I remember feeling a generalized anxious feeling in early sobriety.... when would the other shoe drop? W...	Sober Strummer	7	523	Oct 20, 2013 by gonee
	Grapevine (Preview) October 18 "One day leads to the next, no matter how unhappy I choose to be."	Mike B.	3	310	Oct 20, 2013 by Mike D
	Blue Lights (Preview) Last night I was the designated driver for my partner, who was celebrating a big work victory with colleagues at a local bar. I was happy eating peanuts and drinking Diet Pepsi for the night and we wrapped up at around 1am. For the record, bars never temp me, because my serious drinking was always done co...	AdamMoz	2	431	Oct 19, 2013 by Jerry F
	Is there anyone on here right now? I need someone. (Preview) There are no meetings near me right now and I have no one to talk to.	bjc_nc	10	635	Oct 19, 2013 by Pythonpappy
	Hey Dean (Preview) You are reading from the book Each Day a New Beginning When people bother you in any way, it is because their souls are trying to get your divine attention and your blessing. Catherine Ponder We are in constant communication with one another and with God in the spiritual realm. No matter how singular ou...	justadrunk	6	452	Oct 19, 2013 by 2granddaughters
	The Road to Happiness (Preview) This is a short 3 minute video clip that I found very meaningful ... turn your sound up ... you'll love it!!! Pappy	Pythonpappy	0	362	Oct 19, 2013 by Pythonpappy
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