Alcoholics Anonymous

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least.~ Goethe

AdamMoz · AdamMoz

During today's meeting someone told the group that their sponsor advised them to introduce themselves as: "Hi. I'm _____ , and I'm the problem." I was really hit hard by this because I think for me it was one of the biggest hurdles I had to face in getting sober. When I was drinking, all I did wa...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

At 70, my dad is just like he was at 35 - only more so. It's frightening that the same thing could happen to me. --Jerry Z.More of the same gets more of the same. What we were given to practice, we practiced. What we practiced, we became. What we became, we are continuing to become - only more so - every day of o...

Stepchild · Stepchild

This is a transcript of parts of a share done by Clancy I. He's an AA longtimer from California. I like this guy....He's pretty funny but carries a great message. He has quite a few shares available here... http://www.xa-speakers.org/pafiledb.php "The Invisible Boat" "... Th...

Zoomtopz · Zoomtopz

worth thinking about only did it a couple of times (that I know of) , but I Do remember what They thought

Tipsy McStagger · Tipsy McStagger

I have two baby girls and I can honestly say that I would jump in front of grizzly bear or leap on a grenade to protect them without even a nanosecond of hesitation. Yet I couldn't put down the bottle and be the father I wanted to be. I couldn't stop being a drunk for them. I would look into their eyes and swear...

MakingWaves · MakingWaves

I am sober quite a long time and been thru the steps. I am in an emotionally abusive/controlling relationship with my live-in BF. If I had the $ I would have gotten out A few years ago when I realized what was really going on. I can't go to a DV shelter because there's no police record or children involved. I...

DocDeAngelo · DocDeAngelo

hello, i don't even know what to write. how does this work?

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Without discipline, there's no life at all. --Katharine HepburnWe all have deadlines we must meet. We have bills to pay, responsibilities at work, children with school projects - all the innumerable small markers that push life forward. When we realize we're procrastinating, we need to be commit...

StPeteDean · StPeteDean

Hello and welcome to all of you. All of us (100's of regular sober posters here) were new comers once trying to find our way and get away from booze, which was killing us. This board is a good place to get information about getting / staying sober, which would be utilizing the AA program. It's not the on...

AdamMoz · AdamMoz

Hi All, Just wanted to check in and say hello. I've been going to a lot of meetings lately and been almost overwhelmed by the amount of great stuff I've been hearing. During today's meeting, it really sunk in for me how much of this disease is accompanied by crushing loneliness and how awesome (blissful...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Dwell in possibility.~ Emily Dickinson

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

The darkness was encumbering only because I relied upon my sight for everything I did, not knowing that another way was to let power be the guide. --Carlos CastanedaWe don't need to be blind in order not to see. Remember how long it took for us to "see" our addictions? Remember how the blindf...

Drench · Drench

Hi. I'm 37 and I have a serious problems. I gave up hope of ever becoming sober 17 years ago. I decided to drink myself to death. It didn't work. After destroying my kids' lives and losing our home, car and my job, I became temporarily sober for periods of 6 months or so -- never lasting more than a year on th...

OG Stiggs · OG Stiggs

Determined to make it this time.

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Ive learned that making a living is not the same thing as making a life.~ Maya Angelou

Mike B. · Mike B.

July 29 "Every day, every meeting, there's something more to learn."

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

The winds of grace are blowing all the time. You have only to raise your sail. --Sri RamakrishnaIf God seems far away, who moved? At the center of our being a fullness of life exists that wants to flow through us as vitality, love, harmony, happiness, and success. Why, then, are we not more in touch with i...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Other people's actions need not affect us.Our program friends are showing us how to detach from other people and their problems. We have learned we aren't the cause of a family member's alcoholism or the never-ending trauma in a friend's life, though our family and friends may try to blame us for thei...

Capital K · Capital K

I've had a rough month. I'm feeling things I haven't in a very long time. Anger, jealousy, fear, you get the idea. I haven't made many meetings, and when I do Im not really listing. Just forcing my way through it. Tonight was no different. I show up 5 min late. I make a cup of coffee and sit in the corner with t...

Flynn · Flynn

Warning: Im here to interrupt your regularly scheduled life to bring you a completely optional announcement. This post may or may not momentarily screw your day up, then make it orders of magnitude better, and finally, proceed to send your life on a detour. Results may vary, and are not guaranteed. H...

Angell · Angell

I have a question. It's a little hard to word though. Can you think of any 'horrible' event or circumstance in your life, that hasn't set you on a road to a treasure that you would have gladly paid the price of that event? For instance, active alcoholism. If you haven't been there, words are of no use. ...

Mike B. · Mike B.

July 30 "The alcoholic is in no greater peril than when he takes his sobriety for granted."

Sobrietyspell · Sobrietyspell

Happy Soberversary, Dean, my beautiful Big Brother! You were instrumental in my early recovery on so many levels & I love you forever for it. Also, because you're simply a swell guy & I know how much we all love you too! Watch... Thank you for staying sober it means the world to me. Love you, Dani...

Angell · Angell

...as advertised. The wife and I received an eviction notice of fifteen days. The wife was going to see her father who is on his death bed for a week (which means a week without income plus expenses to get there and back). We planned that trip with $3.12 in the bank and the eviction notice came while she...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

July 28, 2014Quote of the Week"GOD - Good Orderly Direction." Like many newcomers, I had a lot of conflicting feelings and ideas about the God concept in early recovery. I didn't trust the God I had grown up with and so had a hard time turning my will and life over to Him. I was growing pretty d...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Nobody's family can hang out the sign, "Nothing's the matter here." --Chinese ProverbNone of us come from a perfect family, but if we have any family at all, it's worth the effort to see what there is to enjoy about it. Sometimes it's difficult or impossible, because there's been so much da...

sweetness · sweetness

Hi all, I wanted to briefly introduce myself here. I am a 41 year old mother of two, married 13 years. I have been drinking heavily for at least 15 years. I received my first DUI this past June under highly upsetting circumstances. As a result of that emotional blow, I attempted suicide and ended u...

Namaste78 · Namaste78

Hi! Just sitting here enjoying a lazy lazy Saturday. I haven't even gotten up to leave the house. I haven't talked to anyone, only via text. I always start off my cherishing this down time, but many hours into it my mind starts going and going and the down time starts feeling depressing. My mind is such a d...

Stepchild · Stepchild

character.http://www.xa-speakers.org/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=1551

Capital K · Capital K

I'm new to MIP. I'm coming up on 6 months of sobriety on August 2nd. My sponsor is great but he travels for a living. Not easy to get ahold of. I'm attempting my 4th step and it's kicking amy ass. Got a lot of crap coming up that I buried a long time ago. Anyway I'm just putting myself out there.

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

There is no happiness in having or in getting, but only in giving.~ Henry Drummond

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

The perception of whats possible is on the other side of fear!~ Leslie Zann

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

There are as many ways to live and grow, as there are people. Our own ways are the only ways that should matter to us.--Evelyn MandelWanting to control other people, to make them live as we'd have them live, makes the attainment of serenity impossible. And serenity is the goal we are seeking in this reco...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Worry and Stress"Make plans but don't plan results." This is a simple phrase cautioning us against unnecessary worry and stress. If our plans involve other people, we would be wise to work joyfully toward realizing our dreams, but we should not expect or worry if others do not want the sam...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

The person on top of the mountain did not fall there.~ Unknown

Stepchild · Stepchild

Good to have you aboard!!

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Happiness is a choice, not a response.~ Anonymous

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

A good listener is not only popular everywhere, but after a while he gets to know something. --Wilson MiznerA good salesperson is usually a good listener. Being a good listener also helps in being a good parent or spouse, neighbor or friend. When we are truly able to hear what others are trying to say, w...

RubyTues · RubyTues

This board played a big part of my initial foray into recovery. A huge part. I posted honestly about how I was doing, what was going on, and benefitted enormously from hearing people's experiences in response. I've kind of dropped the ball on the honesty thing of late, and I want this board to be a part o...

Angell · Angell

The home that we currently live in is a mobile home across the front yard from our landlady. The landlady had her daughter, her daughter's boyfriend and her grandson move out to the property three months ago. They moved into the landlady's RV. We offered to move into the RV and give the kids the trail...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the Light, even though for the moment you do not see.-- Bill W.At times, we'll go through pain and hardship. At times, we'll have doubts. At times, we'll get angry and think we just don't care anymore. These things can spiritually blind us. But this is normal. Ho...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

Once you wake up thought in a man, you can never put it to sleep again.~ Zora Neale Hurston

bikerbill · bikerbill

After more than thirty five years with the same company, actually at 35years and 1 day.... I was told there's no funding for my job. I've been job hunting within the company ever since and what have I achieved? Nothing. nada. F*** all. So I've been offered a package to leave. Not quite a golden good...

StPeteDean · StPeteDean

Trying to focus on Anniversary week, as I've let the last few slip by without celebrating at all. This Friday, in 1989, was the first day I stayed sober, on this continuous journey. Thanks to you all, especially my Family of choice here on MIP, from this grateful recovering drunk.

Mike B. · Mike B.

July 24 "Sobriety is a constant process of uncovering, discovering, and discarding."

Mike B. · Mike B.

Anyone know how to fix not getting e-mails when some posts after you? I use to get them and do click on the box in the lower left corner but now it's not working?

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

The best thing that can come with success is the knowledge that it is nothing to long for. --Liv UllmannSuccess may be defined in many ways. In our youth, we may have measured success in terms of having a million dollars, two cars, a swimming pool. But we are coming to believe that success means staying c...

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

There is only one happiness in this life, to love and be loved.~ George Sand

Pythonpappy · Pythonpappy

No person is your enemy, no person is your friend, and every person is your teacher. --Florence Scovel ShinnWe can open ourselves to opportunities today. They abound in our lives. No circumstance we find ourselves in is detrimental to our progress. No relationship with someone at work or at home is s...

Topic		Started By	Replies	Views	Last Post
	Sunrise Quote - 8/3 (Preview) Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least.~ Goethe	Pythonpappy	0	380	Aug 3, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	"I'm _____ , and I'm the problem." (Preview) During today's meeting someone told the group that their sponsor advised them to introduce themselves as: "Hi. I'm _____ , and I'm the problem." I was really hit hard by this because I think for me it was one of the biggest hurdles I had to face in getting sober. When I was drinking, all I did wa...	AdamMoz	9	1228	Aug 3, 2014 by Mike D
	Today's Gift - 8/2 (Preview) *At 70, my dad is just like he was at 35 - only more so. It's frightening that the same thing could happen to me.* --Jerry Z.More of the same gets more of the same. What we were given to practice, we practiced. What we practiced, we became. What we became, we are continuing to become - only more so - every day of o...	Pythonpappy	1	363	Aug 2, 2014 by Stepchild
	The invisible boat. (Preview) This is a transcript of parts of a share done by Clancy I. He's an AA longtimer from California. I like this guy....He's pretty funny but carries a great message. He has quite a few shares available here... http://www.xa-speakers.org/pafiledb.php "The Invisible Boat" "... Th...	Stepchild	4	1057	Aug 2, 2014 by Stepchild
	do You know wot time it is (Preview) worth thinking about only did it a couple of times (that I know of) , but I Do remember what They thought	Zoomtopz	3	601	Aug 2, 2014 by AdamMoz
	Why I finally stopped playing games with AA (Preview) I have two baby girls and I can honestly say that I would jump in front of grizzly bear or leap on a grenade to protect them without even a nanosecond of hesitation. Yet I couldn't put down the bottle and be the father I wanted to be. I couldn't stop being a drunk for them. I would look into their eyes and swear...	Tipsy McStagger	3	578	Aug 2, 2014 by StPeteDean
	Trauma - How To Heal? (Preview) I am sober quite a long time and been thru the steps. I am in an emotionally abusive/controlling relationship with my live-in BF. If I had the $ I would have gotten out A few years ago when I realized what was really going on. I can't go to a DV shelter because there's no police record or children involved. I...	MakingWaves	21	845	Aug 1, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	first timer here, not really sure what i'm looking for (Preview) hello, i don't even know what to write. how does this work?	DocDeAngelo	19	703	Aug 1, 2014 by davep12and12
	Today's Gift - 7/31 (Preview) Without discipline, there's no life at all. --Katharine HepburnWe all have deadlines we must meet. We have bills to pay, responsibilities at work, children with school projects - all the innumerable small markers that push life forward. When we realize we're procrastinating, we need to be commit...	Pythonpappy	5	426	Aug 1, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	To the Newcomers welcome (Preview) Hello and welcome to all of you. All of us (100's of regular sober posters here) were new comers once trying to find our way and get away from booze, which was killing us. This board is a good place to get information about getting / staying sober, which would be utilizing the AA program. It's not the on...	StPeteDean	4	731	Aug 1, 2014 by Hello its me
	People (Preview) Hi All, Just wanted to check in and say hello. I've been going to a lot of meetings lately and been almost overwhelmed by the amount of great stuff I've been hearing. During today's meeting, it really sunk in for me how much of this disease is accompanied by crushing loneliness and how awesome (blissful...	AdamMoz	5	695	Aug 1, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Sunrise Quote - 8/1 (Preview) Dwell in possibility.~ Emily Dickinson	Pythonpappy	0	327	Aug 1, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift - 8/1 (Preview) The darkness was encumbering only because I relied upon my sight for everything I did, not knowing that another way was to let power be the guide. --Carlos CastanedaWe don't need to be blind in order not to see. Remember how long it took for us to "see" our addictions? Remember how the blindf...	Pythonpappy	0	395	Aug 1, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Help, I just can't stop (Preview) Hi. I'm 37 and I have a serious problems. I gave up hope of ever becoming sober 17 years ago. I decided to drink myself to death. It didn't work. After destroying my kids' lives and losing our home, car and my job, I became temporarily sober for periods of 6 months or so -- never lasting more than a year on th...	Drench	33	1196	Aug 1, 2014 by Drench
	New here (Preview) Determined to make it this time.	OG Stiggs	16	765	Jul 31, 2014 by Hello its me
	Sunrise Quote - 7/31 (Preview) Ive learned that making a living is not the same thing as making a life.~ Maya Angelou	Pythonpappy	0	297	Jul 31, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Grapevine (Preview) July 29 "Every day, every meeting, there's something more to learn."	Mike B.	1	338	Jul 30, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift - 7/30 (Preview) The winds of grace are blowing all the time. You have only to raise your sail. --Sri RamakrishnaIf God seems far away, who moved? At the center of our being a fullness of life exists that wants to flow through us as vitality, love, harmony, happiness, and success. Why, then, are we not more in touch with i...	Pythonpappy	0	343	Jul 30, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift - 7/29 (Preview) Other people's actions need not affect us.Our program friends are showing us how to detach from other people and their problems. We have learned we aren't the cause of a family member's alcoholism or the never-ending trauma in a friend's life, though our family and friends may try to blame us for thei...	Pythonpappy	0	339	Jul 30, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Gods work (Preview) I've had a rough month. I'm feeling things I haven't in a very long time. Anger, jealousy, fear, you get the idea. I haven't made many meetings, and when I do Im not really listing. Just forcing my way through it. Tonight was no different. I show up 5 min late. I make a cup of coffee and sit in the corner with t...	Capital K	10	651	Jul 30, 2014 by davep12and12
	What If You Had Gotten Everything You Ever Wanted? (Preview) Warning: Im here to interrupt your regularly scheduled life to bring you a completely optional announcement. This post may or may not momentarily screw your day up, then make it orders of magnitude better, and finally, proceed to send your life on a detour. Results may vary, and are not guaranteed. H...	Flynn	4	596	Jul 30, 2014 by The Goat
	Can you think of one? (Preview) I have a question. It's a little hard to word though. Can you think of any 'horrible' event or circumstance in your life, that hasn't set you on a road to a treasure that you would have gladly paid the price of that event? For instance, active alcoholism. If you haven't been there, words are of no use. ...	Angell	7	686	Jul 30, 2014 by 7exasaurus
	Grapevine (Preview) July 30 "The alcoholic is in no greater peril than when he takes his sobriety for granted."	Mike B.	0	326	Jul 30, 2014 by Mike B.
	25 Years, Dean! XXV (Preview) Happy Soberversary, Dean, my beautiful Big Brother! You were instrumental in my early recovery on so many levels & I love you forever for it. Also, because you're simply a swell guy & I know how much we all love you too! Watch... Thank you for staying sober it means the world to me. Love you, Dani...	Sobrietyspell	14	902	Jul 29, 2014 by tlcstuff2005
	Rockin' agent comes through (Preview) ...as advertised. The wife and I received an eviction notice of fifteen days. The wife was going to see her father who is on his death bed for a week (which means a week without income plus expenses to get there and back). We planned that trip with $3.12 in the bank and the eviction notice came while she...	Angell	9	652	Jul 29, 2014 by StPeteDean
	Wisdom of the Rooms (Preview) July 28, 2014Quote of the Week"GOD - Good Orderly Direction." Like many newcomers, I had a lot of conflicting feelings and ideas about the God concept in early recovery. I didn't trust the God I had grown up with and so had a hard time turning my will and life over to Him. I was growing pretty d...	Pythonpappy	3	463	Jul 29, 2014 by Part VII
	Today's Gift - 7/28 (Preview) Nobody's family can hang out the sign, "Nothing's the matter here." --Chinese ProverbNone of us come from a perfect family, but if we have any family at all, it's worth the effort to see what there is to enjoy about it. Sometimes it's difficult or impossible, because there's been so much da...	Pythonpappy	1	347	Jul 28, 2014 by Stepchild
	Recently out of rehab and new here (Preview) Hi all, I wanted to briefly introduce myself here. I am a 41 year old mother of two, married 13 years. I have been drinking heavily for at least 15 years. I received my first DUI this past June under highly upsetting circumstances. As a result of that emotional blow, I attempted suicide and ended u...	sweetness	13	782	Jul 28, 2014 by IamDarryl
	The line between relaxation and isolation. (Preview) Hi! Just sitting here enjoying a lazy lazy Saturday. I haven't even gotten up to leave the house. I haven't talked to anyone, only via text. I always start off my cherishing this down time, but many hours into it my mind starts going and going and the down time starts feeling depressing. My mind is such a d...	Namaste78	11	753	Jul 27, 2014 by Stepchild
	This is a really good talk. I highly recommend it. (Preview) character.http://www.xa-speakers.org/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=1551	Stepchild	3	465	Jul 27, 2014 by Stepchild
	Early sobriety (Preview) I'm new to MIP. I'm coming up on 6 months of sobriety on August 2nd. My sponsor is great but he travels for a living. Not easy to get ahold of. I'm attempting my 4th step and it's kicking amy ass. Got a lot of crap coming up that I buried a long time ago. Anyway I'm just putting myself out there.	Capital K	8	779	Jul 27, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Sunrise Quote - 7/27 (Preview) There is no happiness in having or in getting, but only in giving.~ Henry Drummond	Pythonpappy	0	328	Jul 27, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Sunrise Quote - 7/26 (Preview) The perception of whats possible is on the other side of fear!~ Leslie Zann	Pythonpappy	0	322	Jul 27, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift - 7/27 (Preview) There are as many ways to live and grow, as there are people. Our own ways are the only ways that should matter to us.--Evelyn MandelWanting to control other people, to make them live as we'd have them live, makes the attainment of serenity impossible. And serenity is the goal we are seeking in this reco...	Pythonpappy	0	428	Jul 27, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift - 7/26 (Preview) Worry and Stress"Make plans but don't plan results." This is a simple phrase cautioning us against unnecessary worry and stress. If our plans involve other people, we would be wise to work joyfully toward realizing our dreams, but we should not expect or worry if others do not want the sam...	Pythonpappy	0	299	Jul 27, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Sunrise Quote - 7/23 (Preview) The person on top of the mountain did not fall there.~ Unknown	Pythonpappy	2	433	Jul 26, 2014 by Finn Felton
	Welcome to Capital K! (Preview) Good to have you aboard!!	Stepchild	1	378	Jul 26, 2014 by Mr_David
	Sunrise Quote - 7/25 (Preview) Happiness is a choice, not a response.~ Anonymous	Pythonpappy	1	320	Jul 26, 2014 by Mr_David
	Today's Gift - 7/25 (Preview) A good listener is not only popular everywhere, but after a while he gets to know something. --Wilson MiznerA good salesperson is usually a good listener. Being a good listener also helps in being a good parent or spouse, neighbor or friend. When we are truly able to hear what others are trying to say, w...	Pythonpappy	4	459	Jul 26, 2014 by Mr_David
	A program of rigorous honesty (Preview) This board played a big part of my initial foray into recovery. A huge part. I posted honestly about how I was doing, what was going on, and benefitted enormously from hearing people's experiences in response. I've kind of dropped the ball on the honesty thing of late, and I want this board to be a part o...	RubyTues	5	682	Jul 26, 2014 by RubyTues
	Doing the next right thing anyway. (Preview) The home that we currently live in is a mobile home across the front yard from our landlady. The landlady had her daughter, her daughter's boyfriend and her grandson move out to the property three months ago. They moved into the landlady's RV. We offered to move into the RV and give the kids the trail...	Angell	2	613	Jul 24, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	Today's Gift - 7/24 (Preview) Believe more deeply. Hold your face up to the Light, even though for the moment you do not see.-- Bill W.At times, we'll go through pain and hardship. At times, we'll have doubts. At times, we'll get angry and think we just don't care anymore. These things can spiritually blind us. But this is normal. Ho...	Pythonpappy	1	338	Jul 24, 2014 by Stepchild
	Sunrise Quote - 7/24 (Preview) Once you wake up thought in a man, you can never put it to sleep again.~ Zora Neale Hurston	Pythonpappy	0	373	Jul 24, 2014 by Pythonpappy
	takes a deep breat and plunges into a new life direction (Preview) After more than thirty five years with the same company, actually at 35years and 1 day.... I was told there's no funding for my job. I've been job hunting within the company ever since and what have I achieved? Nothing. nada. F*** all. So I've been offered a package to leave. Not quite a golden good...	bikerbill	8	598	Jul 24, 2014 by StPeteDean
	This week anniversary (Preview) Trying to focus on Anniversary week, as I've let the last few slip by without celebrating at all. This Friday, in 1989, was the first day I stayed sober, on this continuous journey. Thanks to you all, especially my Family of choice here on MIP, from this grateful recovering drunk.	StPeteDean	16	7920	Jul 24, 2014 by Db1105
	Grapevine (Preview) July 24 "Sobriety is a constant process of uncovering, discovering, and discarding."	Mike B.	0	297	Jul 24, 2014 by Mike B.
	Reply help (Preview) Anyone know how to fix not getting e-mails when some posts after you? I use to get them and do click on the box in the lower left corner but now it's not working?	Mike B.	3	357	Jul 24, 2014 by Mike B.
	Today's Gift - 7/23 (Preview) The best thing that can come with success is the knowledge that it is nothing to long for. --Liv UllmannSuccess may be defined in many ways. In our youth, we may have measured success in terms of having a million dollars, two cars, a swimming pool. But we are coming to believe that success means staying c...	Pythonpappy	1	353	Jul 24, 2014 by Mr_David
	Sunrise Quote - 7/22 (Preview) There is only one happiness in this life, to love and be loved.~ George Sand	Pythonpappy	2	369	Jul 24, 2014 by Mr_David
	Today's Gift - 7/22 (Preview) No person is your enemy, no person is your friend, and every person is your teacher. --Florence Scovel ShinnWe can open ourselves to opportunities today. They abound in our lives. No circumstance we find ourselves in is detrimental to our progress. No relationship with someone at work or at home is s...	Pythonpappy	2	423	Jul 24, 2014 by Mr_David
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