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Hi there,  I drink too much.  It is hurting my relationships and my health.  I have tried to stop drinking before.  But i constantly fail, I really want to heal myself and get on with my life.  Right now i usually drink everyday, usually beer.  On the weekends I binge while out with my friends..

I am confused about why i drink? do i need to know why in order to stop? 

recently (the past 6 months) i have been getting more and more depressed at my failures and just am not happy in general.

I think my biggest problem in the past has been moving past an intial period of sobriety, i will have a really bad weekend, an vow not to do it ever again, promise my girlfriend but then within 2 or 3 months i am doing it again.

I feel so naieve.

Does anyone have suggests for coping with day to day "cravings"  how do you get your mind off "having one drink"

I hope this is an acceptable introduction.. :)

thanks for the website. 



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Hello Richard, and welcome to the board. I assure that your experience is typical. At points in time, we all could quit for a month or two (later this didn't seem possible). Usually things, health, feeling of well being etc.. improved and we forgot why we stopped drinking. The reasons why are complicated, and the average alcoholic doesn't know what they are up against, in regards to the forces that drive us back to drinking. What the two founders of AA discovered was that a spiritual and psychic change needed to come about, in order for the recovering person to lose the obsession to drink. It's a two fold illness. A obsession coupled with a developed allergy to alcohol. Like a diabetic that can't stop ingesting sugar. Eventually it's fatal. And with alcoholics it's progressive. Reading the "Big Book" will greatly add to your understanding of this physical/mental malady and help you to sort out where you're at, in regards to this disease. Of course we'll also suggest getting to a few AA meetings, by searching for them in your location via google. A speakers meeting is always a good start. Here's a link to the online big book for your reading pleasure. Good luck, and stick around and ask as many questions as you can.

http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/en_tableofcnt.cfm



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Hey, man was it a tough pill to swallow when I realized that alcohol had turned on me and quit working the way it was supposed to! Then with whole hearted resolve, I swore off drinking. Still I drank again. I kept doing this until finally I had no girl, no license, no work, no house, NO NOTHING! Just pain, fear and confusion. Despair and hopelessness. It was by reaching out, as you have done, that I finally found a way out! As these guys post on here I really pay attention and the things they have suggested to me have not only worked on keeping me from drinking, but it's also made it easier for me to live inside my own skin. These guys have been exactly where you are right now, me too. There is a way out and it is infinitely more than just that!

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Welcome. Go to AA meetings and read the doctors opinion in the Alcoholics Anonymous book. This will help to diagnose whether you are a real alcoholic. The book describes three types of drinkers.
The moderate drinker, is able to stop altogether with little or no problem.
The heavy drinker is also able to moderate his drinking or stop altogether, sometimes with the help of a doctor.
A real alcoholic is not able to stop once he has taken the 1st drink. Also he is not able to stay away from the 1st drink because of an overwhelming obsession of the mind.



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Welcome to MIP! :) I echo the comments above in sharing that the AA Big Book and meetings are the resources that will provide you with the information and support you are looking for. Drinking was always my go to answer for any problem. Thanks to AA I have a whole different way of meeting life on life's terms now and I don't look to numb my feelings one glass at a time. All the very best to you.

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WELCOME,Glad you showed up here,suggestions and others experience,strength and hope will be abundant.Stick around,,WE need you.....smile



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Welcome!!! All thats needed is a DESIRE to STOP drinking. We dont need to know WHY we drink right now, that will come after working the steps. Right now you should get to a meeting asap! This program is divinely inspired. If you are Honest, Open Minded and Willing, you WILL succeed!

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"I feel so naieve."

I was so naieve myself...I didn't know and didn't know that I didn't know about alcoholism and myself.  Like some others it took me two trips and a long time to come to understand about alcoholism and myself and first the very first first was I had to find a way to stop putting alcohol in my system obviously, I came to understand that when I was altered by the chemical I couldn't have any assets to work with and get the results I needed and then I also would lapse into the guilt, shame, confusion, loss of self esteem along with the realization that I needed help from others who knew, knew that they knew and were willing to pass that one to me.  My responsibility was to get to them and ask, "Can you please help me?" That behavior and question was always returned with a yes...on condition that you don't drink before we start...while we're helping...and after the ESH has been passed to you.

You've made the start...came to where there are years and years of sobriety with many more people, places and meetings available to you. Part of that is the face to face meeting rooms of AA.  Your responsibility is to get there and get there as early as you can.   Basics?  Go early, Find your seat, Sit down; all the way down, Listen with an open mind (open mind means no other voices in your head discounting or judging what you are hearing...you don't know what we know), Learn and then Practice what the sober alcoholic is doing...Big Book, Steps, Traditions, Slogans, Sponsors, All of it and most important a Power Greater than your own pride and ego.   There you go...the basics.  Go to the White Pages of your local telephone book and look up the hotline number for AA in your area...call that number for the meeting places and times of the meetings and get rid of any distraction...including fear of going...which would keep you from us. 

As has already been mentioned...ours is a fatal disease and we loose our sanity before we die.  Your discription of how you're trying to conquer a drinking situation that already has conquered you and also get all the great things in life others have sounds insane...you've got that one already and alcoholism is a progressive disease...progress on to death unless you value your life and meaning more than that.

Welcome to MIP...a great tool with men and women with awesome ESH that when I do with it as I have suggested you do with it (above) keeps this alcoholic sober, joyous, free and of value to others.

Keep coming back...thanks for the humility and honesty...I always need those lessons.

Jerry F.  smile

 



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I get my mind off having "just 1 drink" by knowing on such a gut level that I almost never had "just 1 drink." It was never that way from the first time I drank at age 14 and threw up all over my parents' house all the way up until I stopped drinking at 36. Yes....there were times that I drank and had fun with friends, but my friends also tended to be alchoholics and those relationships were not very deep and not very meaningful. I stay away from the first drink by simply accepting in my heart, mind, and soul that alcohol is poison to me, it will never be fun again, it will always lead to a bad place and 1 drink is the same as 100.

I made a lot of promises to stop drinking to various people and gave them assurrances that I "had it under control" but when it was really time to quit, I went to AA and just started doing it full force, 7 meetings a week and working steps with a sponsor. I don't go to as many meetings now, but I did that amount for about 2 years and avoided bars and such. It was worth it to make that change for me.

It will take some soul searching and a deep acceptance for you to surrender that you are an alcoholic and you are truly ready to be sober and stop all the "experimenting" and hoping that doing the same thing will result in different results (definition of insanity). Nobody but you knows when that tipping point is, but for most of us, it took serious amounts of suffering to get there. I hope that is not the case for you.

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Wow, thanks everyone for the encouragement. I feel so lucky that I have my girlfriend and now i have found this group. I will read the book suggested by you all. I feel like i have a lot of work to do, but your responses have made it feel like i will have a lot of help.
Thanks again!

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that's how it works! Richard


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Welcome Richard.

Hard to add what has already been said. The fellowship and program of AA is what has worked for me the last 27 years.

First you have to decide if you think you are an Alcoholic, if so, you have to make recovery from it the most important thing is your life.

Alcoholism is like being being on an elevator, you can get off on any floor you want, but your life is going to keep going down till you get off.

take Care,

Rob

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Welcome Richard, and keep coming back. we all take care of ourselves and each other "one day at a time" ... and you are in the right place.       jj/sheila



-- Edited by jj on Monday 9th of January 2012 03:19:14 PM



-- Edited by jj on Monday 9th of January 2012 03:20:13 PM

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Welcome Richard!

You have been given some wonderful thoughts here... please take notice of them all.

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Welcome Richard, grab a seat and stay around a while.

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Welcome Keep Coming Back!

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