Post the Daily Reflections, that is if you all still want them posted, someone else will have to take over.
I think I'm finished with this forum. My time here has been great for the most part but it's time to move on.
Seems as if there's a downward pattern here and I need something more.....
Too much bitchin' and moanin from Oldtimers.....too much sappy crap for the Newcomers.
And I won't even mention the fact that members have registered their little imaginary "friends" so they have "someone" to cosighn their Bullshit........
If you've been in recovery with a little bit of time under your belt and you're working the program I just believe that the Obessions and the urges should have been lifted by now. And I don't mean the "fleeting thought" of having a drink from time to time, we're alkies, I doubt that will ever go away, I'm talking about URGES / CRAVINGS........
If you're a Newcomer to sobriety well, easy does it to a point, but if you desire to stop drinking then the truth can not be suger coated. If your feelings are hurt because someone tells the facts and the truth, well, you best grow some balls if you want to stay sober....
We seem to forget the MOST IMPORTANT FACT OF ALCOHOLISM
IT KILLS, IT MAMES, IT DESTROYS
So if you gotta kick someone's ass every now and then to get that thru their thick heads, well, that's what ya gotta do........
I'm not angry, nothing else is going on, I don't want a drink.....It's just time to move on.
Thanks to all who have helped, supported, prayed and just been here when I needed someone.
Stay sober.........Peace, love and hugs........
Jen
-- Edited by Doll at 22:02, 2006-03-02
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* We eventually realize that just as the pains of alcoholism had to come before sobriety, emotional turmoil comes before serenity. *
Hey Doll...I sense an awful lot of anger...thats being projected ...instead of shared my freind...
Noone here is crying the blues sweety...People are venting feelings...and keeping the shit out..and putting in some good stuff..
As for newcommers..we dont hit them in a head with a pail..and tell them what to do...we can suggest...but its their call...and their choice.. We cannot demand anything...of them....
We share our experience strength understanding..love and hope...and we get back tenfold...
Youve got my email...Im listening.....luv yu...
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Life is short..Live it sober to the fullest...One day at a time...
I guess i'll just belong and try to practice all these principles in all my affairs.
Glad to be sober today
thank you all
I love this part :
Our book is meant to be suggestive only. We realize that we only know a little. God will constantly disclose more to you and to us. Ask Him in your morning mediation what you can do each day for the man who is still sick. The answers will come if your own house is in order. But obviously you cannot transmit something that you haven't got. See to it that your relationship with Him is right, and great events will come to pass for you and countless others. This is the Great Fact for us.
Abandon yourself to God as you understand God. Admit your faults to Him and to your fellows. Clear away the wreckage of your past. Give freely of what you find and join us. We shall be with you in the Fellowship of the Spirit, and you will surely meet some of us as you trudge the Road of Happy Destiny, May God bless you and keep you-----until then.
I know a few people who have been sober and in recovery for 20 years and insist that they are still newcomers. Now I am beginning to understand why. I guess I'm kind of an old-timer and a newcomer at the same time.
I love that part that you quoted too, and want to save it. Please, where is it from? what page?
love in recovery,
amanda
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do your best and God does the rest, a step at a time
Amanda, What Rick quoted is from the Big Book, page 164, last 2 paragraphs.I was told when I came into AA read the first 164 pages of the book, then I could read the stories at my leisure. Did what I was told.
I am a newcomer somedays, an oldtimer others...and then there are days I just want to go out and find an easier softer way.The chapter in the Big Book..."Chapter 7 Working With Others" is also helpful.
I got to this forum yesterday. So grateful. I just want you to know that I found hope when I could not find it anywhere else. With the encouragement I found here, I was able to get a little better. Sure it is a fatal and serious problem, but I have to go away feeling, as in my case, that this forum may be the only hope for someone who is reaching out for helping hand, and I mean any hand. I was just praying that someone, anyone was here. I need to hold out my hand for you, too. So I am. -paul
I will miss you, I valued your insights and enjoyed your posts. Thank you for being there for all of us. I wish you joy wherever you go. Peace and love
Doll you mentioned about some of us newcomers being all sappy n shit!
I aggree that i myself have been a sappy little twat at times, i have posted about it enough.. But its something i have to go through.. its part of my journey.. I will one day look back and think of how sappy i was (am now, perhaps) and be pleased that i will have grown and moved on from that.. but at the mo i have to be how i am. My progress is rather slow at the moment.. I am pleased for you if you have obstained for however long you have.. But dont get too complacent, you too may fall again someday..
I guess you are similar to me.. I have a drink problem that im really not gettin ontop of at the monent.. But the anger and pain i feel when i see my mum n dad drunk takes over.. I came in last night, after day at birmingham. I hadnt been drinking, but i had bought some drink and had it in bag in my hands .. I walked through the door looked into front room and my mum had stupid drunk look on her face, i turne away, i kinda spoke to my dad though i recon he was probably drunk too, i tried not to look at my mum and spoke replied without affection when she spoke to me, i was very cold to her.. cos i was so angry at her for drinking.. i hate seeing her like that. Silly mare came upstairs then knocked on bathroom door and said she really needed to pee, i was thinking, well tough.. you could have gone downstairs.... and i hated how drunk she was. But i berated myself cos i knew i was hurrying to get things sorted out so i could crack into my drink.. which i did almost straight away..
I hated her actions but i got smashed last night and woke up still quite affected this morning. I get so angry at them for drinking, especialy my mum.. not sure why my mum so much, probably cos she admits she has a problem.. I cant help but see her as pathetic and all her own fault for being drunk etc.. i lose all sympathy.. . Which is so f**king pathetic cos im atleast as bad as she is..
My point being is .. it sounds like your attitude is similar to mine with my parents.. its like .. "well sort yourself out..".. And because you have done it it seems easier to you than it once did.. and if you have done it why is everyone whining, they should just get on and sort themselves out.. ??
Well i managed 7 days of sobriety about a week ago and i got abit complacent in myself, but now its been like .. well today is my 8th day of drinking again.. ffs
But now matter how long i next manage to not drink i will never pass judgment on people who are low and seem SAPPY.. Drink can take you to your 'rock bottom' which is where sappyness lurks... lack of confidence, lack of hope, self esteem at rock bottom, desperation, insecurity. fear.. etc..
