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When I was in high school, Jay was my best friend. We were inseparable. Neither of us drank or did drugs, but instead spent most of our free time watching movies, walking up to the center of our town to eat, or just talking about life. In fact, one night a group of our friends decided that they were going to crack into a mom's liquor cabinet and try drinking Captain Morgan. Wanting to be better than that, we left the group and went to my place to catch a favorite scary movie, which we had already seen probably dozens of times. 

Unfortunately, Jay and I discovered alcohol at the same time in our lives. We both started drinking our first year of college and bonded over the experience. During summers and visits home, we would get together, get drunk, and have what felt like the time of our lives. We would sing and laugh, and talk about how we couldn't imagine a time in our lives without booze. Drinking felt like liberation and we were both in the same psychological head space to get wrapped up in its web of illusion. Eventually, we got to the point where we stopped being sober together at all.

Fast forward 12 or so years and we mostly went our separate ways. We have remained friends via Facebook and have had occasional awkward catch-up conversations, but nothing substantive. I am now also painfully aware of the fact that while I am in recovery, Jay's life appears to be absolutely consumed by alcohol. Based on the conversations we have had and the pictures he posts on Facebook, I have gleaned that he has gotten into trouble numerous times for alcohol-related offenses and that his only celebratory moments are those doused in booze.

When he and I have talked, he has shared with me that the majority of his close relationships have crumbled, that he has become bitter, and that he jumps around from job to job and relationship to relationship. There is potent anger and sadness in his voice, and at times he has said such horrible things about mutual high school friends that it legitimately surprises me. Where Jay used to be a thoughtful, humble person with an enviable sense of humor, now whenever I talk to him I feel like he has been twisted into a scowling, hateful version of his old self. And as an alcoholic, I understand why.

I have spent many a morning fantasizing about calling him up and asking him if he wants to get sober with me. Part of me thinks that if anyone could appeal to his better nature, it is someone with the type of close relationship and life experience we have shared. At the same time, I also know that an alcoholic will often fight tooth and nail to hang on to their disease until they are ready to seek help and let it go. I think, more than anything, I get sad thinking about him because I feel like I know the disease that has dragged him down so low.

Has anyone else had similar experiences? I'm sure for many of us who are in recovery, we watch our old drinking friends continue with the painful habits. I just don't have thoughts on what (if anything) we can do about it.

-A



-- Edited by AdamMoz on Tuesday 8th of April 2014 06:07:52 AM

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I'm having the same experience with my younger brother Adam. He knows I'm in AA....He knows I've been sober awhile...And he knows I'll be there to help him when he's ready. I can't get him ready.....Only alcohol can do that. Nobody could tell me anything. Send your friend a message...Let him know what alcohol did to you....What you decided to do.....And what you're doing now. At least when he's completely hopeless....He'll know at least one place he can turn too.

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Over the years..Ive watched a lot of my friends pass on because of alcohol..including myself.. almost

When I drank? If my AA friends were in touch? I went and hid...Didn't want to hear it..avoided them the plague

Anythings worth a try...with no expectations..re the outcome..

We reach out..If they don't reach back in a positive manner? Nothing more we can do..except stand by..

Life goes on..



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I have a friend who is a very heavy drinker. I spoke to an AA'er about whether or not I should invite him to a meeting. He said he has to be the one to decide for himself whether or not he has a problem and to come to meetings and all I could do was to pray for him. It is very sad. I had several relatives and friends begging me to go to AA over the years and until I was ready to stop drinking their words had no affect on me. I quit when I was ready to quit.


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Hi Adam, ... This is a very common scenario in AA's recovery program ... in fact, during Bill and Dr. Bob's early recovery, they even went out looking for alcoholics to fix ... knowing that working with other alcoholics gave them a better chance at recovery themselves ...

I go along with Stepdude here ... you cannot open the 'door' to recovery for them, but at least you can go put that 'door' in front of them, so to speak ... in a general conversation, simply state that alcohol stopped working for you and that it had taken control of your life somewhere along the way ... that you found it necessary to break away from it's control over you in order to gain any kind of peace and happiness in life ... that as long as you were drinking, life sucked ...

IF, you are totally honest, and are currently enjoying the promises mentioned in the BB, then tell him you no longer have to depend on alcohol and are feeling a renewed lease on life that has many healthy benefits both physically and emotionally ... be specific ... if that doesn't get his interest up, then just sit back and wait and pray ...

For him, when the 'pain' outweighs the 'pleasure', then he'll make a choice ... pray it's the right one and be available to help him when he asks for help ...



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Nice to see you (((Adam)))

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Thanks for everything.  Peace and Love on your journey.  

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