Grandma's experiences leave a mark

justadrunk · MIP Old Timer

Grandma's experiences leave a mark

Zoomtopz · MIP Old Timer

NO

Maybe we do inherit certain genes that put us in the firing line to be an alkie.

My favourite song of All time , is 'Valley of tears' by Buddy Holly -

"I want you to take me where I belong ,

where hearts have been broken , with a kiss and a song.

Spend the rest of my days dear , without any cares.

Spend the rest of my days , in the valley of tears" (google it on youtube)

I was about 11 or 12 when I first heard that song And Loved it from the start , still do .

Ok , I knew it was a "tear-jerker" . When I got sober , from day one , I realised , how much,

my certain fav songs , had 'left their mark' on my 'emotional thinking' - in rose coloured glasses .

Ok , so I dropped all the others & see & understand these songs impacted me .

I ask , when there is talk of a "magic pill or potion" that will cure alcoholism . To me it might help

the alcohol side . What about the ISM's , I could not open the link JaD . If it is similar to any of th others .

It Won't help this Alkie , I Don't play the "blame game" , I dropped it by 1 month sober .

It was the ISM's I identified with when I got here . I waited 2yrs to hear the 1st line of my drinking story .

I waited another 10yrs to hear the 2nd line , I hung around long enough to hear them . So , if listening

for 'the similarities & not the differences' was going to keep me sober . All I heard was differences .

Why did I stay . People told & explained the ISM's to me . My life WAS Unmanagable from my "rose coloured glasses'.

Caring & sharing , putting the steps into my life AND Continuing to work the Programme of AA , by using the "simple

kit of tools" WILL more than beat any pill or potion . I Believe . You see .

I could Never pay back what has been Freely given to me . Firstly by my HP to get me here ,

and to You folk for Keeping me here . Out there , this little black duck - Is a shot duck.

-- Edited by Zoomtopz on Tuesday 4th of March 2014 03:18:03 PM

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

No ... ... ... Sounds too close to something like 'playing God' ... ... ... I think that we, are the way we are, because it's how we were created ... and to change that is to change what God intended ... We, in AA, have proved that a spiritual solution is not only available, but it works ... NO pills required! ...

Jerry F · MIP Old Timer

I was born oppositional defiant and did what I wanted to do when I wanted to do it and if anyone approached me with a no you can't I responded with a watch me and that included often my drinking. Alcoholics are risk takers I was told in the psycological profile and that was what rang my bell of awareness. I identified with it so completely that I knew why I continued to drink after first being turned on. It was my grandmother who turned me on that uncovered the mark in me which I believe is still there and then for today instead of drinking I have changed my behavior...I participate in a spiritually based 12 step, 12 tradition, 12 concept program of recovery which has restored my mind, body, spirit and emotions. Another mark it is and has become. Interestingly my natural father died from tuberculosis and I tested positive for it for decades...the disease was still in me and then one day it was gone. The test didn't leave that telltale flaming read bump on my arm any longer and still I protect my lungs as I protect my mind, body, spriit and emotions which are victim to our other disease. I've drank into toxic shock 3 times. Would I risk the thought and then the behavior on the promise of a magic pill or cure. Am I still that risk taker? Not now...not today...and not on a wild dare. I also identify with the ISM's. My person was not created to poisoning. I've lost the definance. Free of it at last. (((((hugs)))))

-- Edited by Jerry F on Tuesday 4th of March 2014 10:11:24 PM

betterthanyesterday52 · MIP Old Timer

I posted a reply last night and it went "poof" during the night.
So tired maybe I didn't hit something right. Maybe my HP was watching my back. I don't know and I guess it really doesn't matter.
anyway, I just said thank you for posting, Tasha. And I got long-winded in what I replied and I will try the condensed version and say that since I have been sober, due to my HP's help and AA, I have and am changing. I would be afraid if I took something like that, I would not have the motivation, faith and AA friends and continue to make changes which I think are helping make me a better happier person and one who wants to help others.
Love ya, gal!

BTY

John · Admin

"The mechanisms of behavioral epigenetics underlie not only deficits and weaknesses but strengths and resiliencies, too. And for those unlucky enough to descend from miserable or withholding grandparents, emerging drug treatments could reset not just mood, but the epigenetic changes themselves. Like grandmother’s vintage dress, you could wear it or have it altered. The genome has long been known as the blueprint of life, but the epigenome is life’s Etch A Sketch: Shake it hard enough, and you can wipe clean the family curse."

So, in short, that being said... messing with our genes, trying to tweak this and that of which is the "canvas" that our life experiences, moods, values, beliefs, etc... to be rid of grandma's yuki stuff... has the potential to take and change every aspect of who we were created as. Frankly, I come from a highly dysfunctional family, with a bunch of ism's... but that does not mean that there is not any good material in the mix as well. And granny had some of those goodies too. Remove her, remove them. Nah, I think I'll let God decide what I need to get rid of and what'is worth keeping or modifying so it has a healthy value and use in my life.

Steps 4 & 5 let me discover what my "character defects" are.... steps 6 & 7 is there to let God deal with what I inherited or developed that needs to be gotten rid of.

I would trust God before Science, although science has its place, it is not to interfere with God's business... in my almighty opinion.

john