Hey all! Today I've been sober for 15 months (yeah!) and cigarette free for 4 days. I was a bit hesitant to tackle the quitting smoking thing because I've been warned that if one attempts this in sobriety too early, it can be disasterous. Well, I figured I could ride out that excuse for years- so I quit. I'm definetly experiencing high emotion, irritability and mood swings along with some physical withdrawrals. One thing I've noticed that is a bit alarming- my thoughts of drinking have increased. I'm inclined to think that this is my addictions F ing with me... But I'm also somewhat concerned that I may be tackling too much? I smoked for just about the same amount of time that I drank... Drank for 25 years, smoked for maybe 26. Generally a pack to a pack and a half a day. Just curious to hear of others experience with this, and any advice or suggestions are more than welcomed!!!
Yes I did everything all at once as I was not only drinking to oblivion for over 25 years also but smoking(at least burning) 3 packs a day and an ounce of herb a ard ship,day(was dealing for many years) and was obviously wreaking havoc(cigarettes out to sea on board ship when I was in the Navy(65-70) were a dollar a carton,used to smoke em and gamble with them)...I was sick and craving for quite awhile(probably a year or more until I didnt crave a fag after a big meal)Today just like Ethanol my stomach gets sick when I smell either and being around smoke bothers me still(Tough drumming with different bands in smoke filled clubs even after I quit)We all react differently and My life was deteriorating so rapidly that I figured I would cold turkey on everything including people ,places and things..Reclused for quite awhile,not recommending it but it was what I did. People were fiending up on fags and caffeine when I came around in '84 and I knew I couldnt use any of those substances although today I do love Green Mountain Dark Magic coffee....There is no smoking in our houses anymore and most people I know have their company smoke outside,,Im not rigid about it cause I know during my addiction to cigs I smoked many people out,I usually just remove myself..I can only suggest what WE subscribe to in our own process,WE don't pick up,we take it day at a time and the day will come when we lose the desire for some sooner than later.Give it time ,if you want it bad enough it will come....I smoked Pall mall,Camels,and Lucky Strikes,they would stick to my lips and rip the skin off(gross picture)and when I was twisted ,which was always,I would burn myself repeatedly and had the most wonderful color of burnt yellow on my fingers.....Truly blessed and grateful I was able to put them aside.My brother in law had a heart attack and has severe emphysyma and still smokes like a chimney,can we say death wish!!! WE can identify huh....In support and prayer.
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((((Col)))) I had to quit sometime and it was in sobriety and I knew the warnings which made sense to me. I was hugely addicted to nicotine and when I didn't have one in me or near I would stoop to anything, place or one to get one. Yes I've taken them out of the gutter, bathroom floors, other people's ashtrays and more. I was addicted and quitting or stopping for good was harder than booze because smoking to me was so benign in comparison. When I first stopped; about 5 years into sobriety I made it for maybe a week and then I got so screwed up with withdrawals I went to the drug store and bought a pack and lit up in front of the cashier standing next to the "no smoking in the store" sign...I almost did the entire cigarette in one drag...I was so dropped because I was relapsing that I threw the new pack to the ground in the parking lot and then got in my car and headed down to my neighborhood liquor store. I never made it because the trauma of being taken out of nicotine and heading back to booze got me over to the curb where I just sat and cried. I went from 84 until the late 90ies and went back to smoking ceptin I went to cigars because a cigarette no longer contained enough nicotine for my system...I smoke and inhaled every cigar down to the nub...the lip burning nub and then with the help of HP stopped again and after a while relapsed back to cigars as many and as often as I could and then stopped with the home group buddy who also relapsed and one Christmas eve offered me a cigar that accidentally fell out of his pocket. Of course I said yes and before the ssssss of yes was said I was smoking again fully aware that I was being swept away in a very ugly form of slavery. The wet slimy hot cigar nub fell out of my mouth an onto the ground and I scrambled to pick it up so that it could nurse me back into slavery. My lungs ached and I was sure I had done myself in this time. I am tuberculic...my Dad died from that disease and I got the addiction genetically. Alcohol at birth...regardless of mother or father may predesign undeveloped lungs. Anyway I got a check up which favored me and haven't gone back to smoking since. I now am working on being around smokers...second hand smoke is also very very bad on folks. For me it was much more difficult staying smoke free than it was alcohol free. We get great tools in AA for our recovery from alcohol addiction...they can be used for other addictions too.
Great post....good luck; in support and service. ((((hugs))))
I smoked for 50 yrs and quit in 2005. I believe that prayer was the greatest thing to get me over the hump.
Step 7 in the 12&12 explains quitting smoking (or anything else that is in our way re: defects and shortcomings. At the last paragraph it says:
"The Seventh Step is where we make the change in our attitude which permits us, with humility as our guide, to move out from ourselves toward others and toward God. The whole emphasis of Step Seven is on humility. It is really saying to us that we now ought to be willing to try humility in seeking the removal of our other shortcomings just as we did when we admitted that we were powerless over alcohol, and came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
If that degree of humility couldenable us to find the grace by which such a deadly obsession could be banished, then there must be hope of the same result respecting any other problem we could possibly have.
All the best.
Bob R
-- Edited by 2granddaughters on Sunday 18th of August 2013 01:29:56 PM
I'm guessing this is the addiction looking for an excuse to live. I quit smoking 8 yrs before I quit drinking so I have no experience... It was during one of my dry stretches and I quit drinking smoking and coffee all on the sane day that I returned home from the doc with a positive pregnancy test. Many don't. You can do it.
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Thanks for everything. Peace and Love on your journey.
I wish I quit smoking , I quit drinking and started smoking, but its because my social circle now smokes, my old social circle drank. I need to find a social circle that just makes money :)
I use a great resource to help me quit and keep my quit from cigars/smoking. I can recomend a tiny bit of cross polinization...check out Quitnet.com. They have great blogs/posts that can walk you through the withdrawal processes. They have great active bulletin boards for support and inspiration. I use the 40+group for my accountability group and pledge daily to keep my quit alive. Other groups can be as active or more active. You may need to check out a few different ones to find one that works for you. They also have a live chat that is almost always busy. You can use them in times of stress or doubt. They are great at rewarding the positive and providing a touchstone for your quit.
No matter what... sobriety is great...and the Quit is JUST AS GREAT!!!
so cool that you made this decision. Congrats...and check out all the resources available to you.
3 days quit = make your wrist band to celbrate (bracelet)
describe it...place importance on it...claim it...and celebrate the 4 days you have...1/2 way through heck week.
Never forget to celebrate your Anniversaries in your Quits. We need every excuse we can find.
I wish I quit smoking , I quit drinking and started smoking, but its because my social circle now smokes, my old social circle drank. I need to find a social circle that just makes money :)
Damn mandm, ... I 'bout snorted my tea through my nose when I read your post ... ... ... ROFLMAO ... ... ... now THAT was funny!!!!!
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I quit at 17 months sober. I really just wanted to be a non smoker. After 3 weeks to a month, all appeal of smoking was gone and it became just like a foreign nasty habit. It was only a crutch I didn't need and gutting it out using my AA toolbox may have added years to my life. More so, it gave me freedom cuz cigarettes were a giant ball and chain.
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I quit at about 20 years sober, and went right back to step one. I didn't connect it at the time, but I had issues with anger for about three years after and nothing I did seemed to have any effect. A few years later I met an old AA buddy of mine who had 3 years of anger after she gave up smoking, and when she told me about that it all made sense.
It seem that the cigs were my way of dealing with stressful situations and I don't believe I was properly sober until I gave them up. If I got up tight about something I would have a smoke to calm me down, and when I couldn't do that, I just stayed angry. To my mind there was little or no difference from using some other kind of mood altering substance to make me feel better.
The silly thing is I gave up once in early sobriety, for a nice wee gal, and it was easy. But when we split I stupidly made the decision to start again. the second time around was pure hell.
I also was once of the mind that the smoking should be left until we are stronger in sobriety, but I think I was wrong on that. If yu are an alcoholic and smoker of my type, you might well be taken all the way back to step 1 and all the discomfort that that entails. Why go through it twice if you don't have to. If you feel the need to quit, now is as good a time as any, and a lot better than putting it of for 20 years as I did.
PS: quitting while still drinking was impossible for me. Being sober made it work. I always always picked smoking back up when drinking. I am sure i'd pick the nasty habit right back up if I drank.
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How's it going Col? Day 5 was the worst for me - at 2 weeks, I was really struggling eating and not having a cigarette, so I tried to change up all my old habits - people/places/things that set me up to reach for that cig and set off my mental obsession.
It fades. Pretty soon it will be gross. Keep us posted! If you know you have to be accountable to someone... would that help? I had someone I checked in with every day (my husband) - and of course I made him not smoke around me. It was the worst walking into work through the smoker circle - and I couldn't sit and chit chat. Later, I found out you feel an instant bond with others who do it, and it's weird at first to not be on that smoke break with them anymore. I suppose people have that with drinking... I didn't because it was just me and the clothes and stuffed animals in the closet lol.
All things that we just have to go through I guess...
You're health is so precious. We all care for you so much, but it's your life... and we love you no matter what : )
You too Pappy
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Well... I made it through week 1. Yes, I was a bit of a lunatic- anger was the underlying theme of the week, as was prayer. I really, really wanted to be that Zen person that was totally cool with my decision to give up the smokes. I must say.. I kinda was at times. Then again there were a few tantrums and moments of pure desperate despair. Although I wouldn't put cigarettes on par with booze, my addiction to them is very strong. I'm almost childlike in my cravings for them... I have to force logic into the equation. I feel like I kept my tantrums under control for the most part ... With a few exeptions. One notable and comical (in hindsight) exception occurred last night at work. Some advice for anyone who works in customer service and decides to quit smoking cold turkey? Take a few days off:) Anyway- I had an interaction with a customer that did not go as planned, and my reaction was to throw a stapler (yup)... Not at them, but at the wall after they had left. My boss, who witnessed this, made some crack about how I 'just showed THEM'... Which was meant to be funny. I failed to see the humor as I stormed away and shouted at my nearest coworker who smokes "don't ever quit smoking! It SUCKS!!"... And then proceeded to burst into tears. Ok, so on my little list of 'Common Nicotine Withdrawral Symptoms' infantile behavior is listed- check- hahaha. Anyway- into my 2nd week of not smoking and trying my best to incorporate the principles of the program. I'm gonna need a whole lot of serenity.
You are doing very well. On reflection I think I found smoking tougher than the booze to give up. The thing that got me was the powerful cravings. Kinda different to alcohol because one smoke would satisfy the craving for a good while. I never had the urge to smoke till I passed out. With booze, the craving came after the drink, and I had to carry on till the end of the spree.
The anger that came up was a surprise. Thank goodness for 10, 11 and 12. Constant application of these principles, especially 10, was what kept me sober and connected to God. Those steps allowed me to make mistakes, but also gave me the means to restore my serenity.
Prayers for you:)
Ok, so on my little list of 'Common Nicotine Withdrawral Symptoms' infantile behavior is listed- check- hahaha.
Okay, that's it ... ... ... my wife says I already act like a child ... and if I quit smoking, hummmm, what's that goin' to do to me ??? ... ... ... is there another way back into the womb ??? ... don't answer that ... LOL
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