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I feel a little bit like karma has got my number. Now that I've been sober for 168 days (but who is counting?) I am finding that I loathe being around drunk people. Part of me feels sad for them, part of me is annoyed by them, part of me is mildly envious that they do not appear to be going through the hell that I did (though, I am sure some are), and part of me just feels guilty because I know I was *that* guy for many years. I used to call up sober friends while drunk and talk their ears off - or I would find sober people at social functions are try to convince them I was super intelligent and charismatic. Now, when I see drunks in the throes of intoxication, I get angry because I know I'm seeing who I was and could still become again if I don't do the work. And I don't like that person. He isn't kind, intelligent, or interesting. He's just drunk and in denial. Anyway, I'm fine getting away from drunk people now for the most part these days. I don't socialize with my drinking buddies and I have lots of friends who are mild or never drinkers. This is not the case with certain family members and in laws, however. You all know my in-laws are heavy drinkers - and what used to bond us now fiercely separates us. We used to get along okay but now the thought of being around them sober makes my stomach clench with dread. I'm wondering if this is something any of you have gone through and if so, how you dealt with being around these drunk people! So far my tactic has included just nodding and smiling, and trying to take myself somewhere mentally between bathroom breaks - but I feel like I need a better and more lasting solution. They know I've stopped drinking. They don't know I'm in AA because I don't want to make a big deal out of it. Not the end of the world, but wanted to pick your brains. -Adam

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AdamMoz wrote:

but I feel like I need a better and more lasting solution.


I've only seen one that works.

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You could just be honest and tell them you've developed an allergy to alcohol. If they ask you what happens - as people have asked that to me - I am sometimes tempted to lie and tell them I break out in hives, but I just keep it simple and usually say "you don't want to know". Because they don't. Do they REALLY WANT to know the hells of addiction? Could they even understand it? We wouldn't wish for people to truly 'get it' anyway. Some things are best left for the ears who can hear you. I can hear you : ) I'm listening.

Something I also do is step out side for fresh air and call my sponsor for a few minutes - tell her the low down - or usually she already has been warned - and then when I call I just tell her I have a few minutes and she talks my ear off about things other than me... and then I remember that it's not all about me and I'm fine again. I tell Zach when I'm ready to leave - I don't try and push it. If I'm trapped, I bring along something to do, and I keep this bookmarked on my phone so I can pop on here and read a couple posts to keep my 'head in the game'.



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AdamMoz wrote:

what used to bond us now fiercely separates us.


 This is a key realization. You are separated from them - mentally, spiritually, philosophically.

What I did was to be physically separated from them (drinking family). First 80%. Then 90%...

I still worry about a little when there are command performances, like weddings, funerals, Thanksgivings, etc. 

Being around drinking family in drinking situations is higher than normal risk.

 

Also, the Living Sober book has some good advice on your matter.



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I think Adam .

Trying not to be judgemental , more by observation , after getting sober .

when we get sober our drinking buddies subconsciously try to bring us back to they're level .

they're justification about they're drinking is totally different to us , that just plain 'denial'

to others  I believe , deeply they know , how we know , why they Have to drink . They sense

we can 'see straight through them' & have you noticed , the more they have had to drink , the

more absurd the excuse . As I said , not judging , just observing . & as We Know .

here but for the grace of God , Go I .



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Adam,

This has worked for and against me at times....but more for me: When I am around drunk people or people pushing drink on me, I make a blunt but transparent statement like "Yes, I don't drink and its because drinking ruined my life completely and it's now getting much better now that I have been sober." Personally, I will talk up AA and how great it is just in what it has done for me because those things are true. I don't think I've ever told anyone else THEY needed to go to AA without them coming to me or stating they had some drinking problem or thought they might.

So you said you don't mention AA to them because you don't want to make a big deal of it. I absolutely see the logic and value in that, but you have an option. You can make a bigger deal out of it. Me being in AA is a BIG part of my identity. It's too hard for me to hide from inlaws or other folks that drink or drink heavily even. The fact that I am as active in AA as I am, is like a "Like me, like my AA" kind of thing. It is a big deal. It's the biggest deal in my life and I'm not afraid to tell that to anyone really.

Hence, it's become a boundary - I don't demand other people not drink around me ever but when they go "So why don't you drink?" or "You mean you won't even just have 1 or 2 with us?"...that is when I often say "Alcohol messed up my whole life. When I drank I could not stop. I crashed my car drunk. I had dry heaves every morning. I was sloppy and thoughtless and not a good person when I drank. It almost killed me." That is just my choice and what I do. Then they often ask if I am in AA after that, since I painted a pretty clear picture of an alcoholic and I will typically say 'Yes I am in AA and I love it and it saved my life."

They can make whatever they want from that. I don't worry about "making a big deal" but it is an appropriate "big deal" to me. Make sense? Some of your inlaws might transgress over that line from heavy drinker to alcoholic and, when they do need help, if they knew you were in AA, that would make it easier right?

Again, these are choices. I don't know if this will work for you....and clearly Anonymity is a HUGE part of the program. I sacrifice mine frequently cuz it's too hard for me to just not let it be known that it's a part of me that just is....It's not to different from me than being gay for me. I spent a long time hiding and being ashamed of that too. I suspect my "outness" about my sobriety and being in AA also has something to do with that. I have to be transparent most of the time. It just suits me better.

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I see my sobriety much the same here as PC does ... I don't try to hide the fact that AA is part of who and what I am ... it makes no difference to me to protect my anonymity ... but I do guard the anonymity of others, cause I feel it a personal choice ... and I agree with PC, that to spread the word that AA works for me, gives others who may have a problem, a friend to turn to if they ever feel they have a problem ... it's one good way to open our AA doors to those in need ...



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For me, I had to avoid all social settings which involved old drinking buddies... Family is a bit more challenging for most, I think. I can identify with your post here on many levels. For me, working with booze and being around people drinking while at work certainly triggered many of the feelings you described. I wasn't angry as much as annoyed. It took countless Serenity Prayers and talks with myself about passing judgement to get over that feeling of annoyance and disgust. I didnt miss drinking, per se, but it was a challenge to be surrounded by it while trying to make a living. In tge end, I think it helped me to better understand my own drinking, and how absolutely abnormal it was in relation to many others 'normal' relationships with alcohol. I felt such a sense of relief when I got sober. I accepted that I couldn't drink, and that if I were honest with myself I never really could. It was very difficult for me to realize that, although I preferred to drink alone, all of my friendships were based in a barroom. I was very isolated. When I became sober, I told my mother immediately. She was, and continues to be, very supportive of my sobriety. My brothers, who I have a very distant relationship with, I have not seen since becoming sober. I generally do not see them more often than once every few years, but when we do get together we seem to need a lot of booze to make it remotely comfortable. They know that I'm sober, but I do not think they realize what that is, exactly. Over the holidays I was invited to several get togethers at my eldest brothers house. My sister in law is quite possibly the sweetest woman on the planet, and she offered to 'not drink with me'. Although I appreciated the sincerity of the gesture-I had to decline. It was simply too soon for me to see my family without that old common bond of booze. I feel for ya, and admire your strength and resolve. Remember that if it gets too tough, you can always take a break from the in-laws :)

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Thank you all. It's a hard thing, right? On the one hand I want to own my identity and what's important to me. On the other hand I don't want my in-laws responding in an overly dramatic way and making the situation totally awkward. I will need to give that some thought but really appreciate the insight. Though, calling my sponsor is a good idea, as is posting on this board. Perhaps next time I'll give you all an hourly play by play of my night ;) -Adam

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For some of us, our current views/feelings on this type situation took years to attain ... don't rush things ... you'll know when you're ready to tackle this situation ... just stay in touch ...



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I don't need to make excuses for 'not' drinking. I tell people it's a personal matter, that's all. End of discussion.



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