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1. I can drink anyone on this board under the table. (I'm not proud of that)
2. I'ts killing me.
3. Can anyone help me dig myself out of this hole that I jumped into about 10 years ago?

Or at lest tell me where to start? This has gone on too long, and it needs to stop. I can hide it so well, that even my closest friends don't know how addicted I really am. I've known it for a long time...I'm 35, and I look about 25. Age hasn't cought up with me yet...I guess it's genenetic or something, I dunno...but aside from all that, I need to quit drinking.

Like I said, I don't know where to start. I can't get through a day without at least a 12 pack.

Can someone give me some advice here?

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Good place to start our freind..weve all been in the same boat...and you are no different from the rest of us..


AA number in your telephone directory will put you in touch with other members...and directions to meetings in your area..


whatever it takes...


This board and the loving and understanding recovering people here..will also add to your support system...


Go for it!!


 



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Well, thankyou...I have to hit the rack right now, but I will look forward to reading more on this board.

I appreciate the response. I gotta steer clear of this dark path....It's completely out of control.

Consider me a complete newbie, because all I think about, is when I can escape. (when I can get smashed).


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Step One "We admitted we were powerless over alcohol--that our lives had become unmanageable."



Who cares to admit complete defeat? Practically no one, of course. Every natural instinct cries out against the idea of personal powerlessness. It is truly awful to admit that, glass in hand, we have warped our minds into such an obsession for destructive drinking that only an act of Providence can remove it from us.


No other kind of bankruptcy is like this one. Alcohol, now become the rapacious creditor, bleeds us of all self-sufficiency and all will to resist its demands. Once this stark fact is accepted, our bankruptcy as going human concerns is complete.


But upon entering A.A. we soon take quite another view of this absolute humiliation. We perceive that only through utter defeat are we able to take our first steps toward liberation and strength. Our admissions of personal powerlessness finally turn out to be firm bedrock upon which happy and purposeful lives may be built.


We know that little good can come to any alcoholic who joins A.A. unless he has first accepted his devastating weakness and all its consequences. Until he so humbles himself, his sobriety--if any--will be precarious. Of real happiness he will find none at all. Proved beyond doubt by an immense experience, this is one of the facts of A.A. life. The principle that we shall find no enduring strength until we first admit complete defeat is the main taproot from which our whole Society has sprung and flowered.


When first challenged to admit defeat, most of us revolted. We had approached A.A. expecting to be taught self-confidence. Then we had been told that so far as alcohol is concerned, self-confidence was no good whatever; in fact, it was a total liability. Our sponsors declared that we were the victims of a mental obsession so subtly powerful that no amount of human willpower could break it. There was, they said, no such thing as the personal conquest of this compulsion by the unaided will. Relentlessly deepening our dilemma, our sponsors pointed out our increasing sensitivity to alcohol--an allergy, they called it. The tyrant alcohol wielded a double-edged sword over us: first we were smitten by an insane urge that condemned us to go on drinking, and then by an allergy of the body that insured we would ultimately destroy ourselves in the process. Few indeed were those who, so assailed, had ever won through in single-handed combat. It was a statistical fact that alcoholics almost never recovered on their own resources. And this had been true, apparently, ever since man had first crushed grapes.


In A.A.'s pioneering time, none but the most desperate cases could swallow and digest this unpalatable truth. Even these "last-gaspers" often had difficulty in realizing how hopeless they actually were. But a few did, and when these laid hold of A.A. principles with all the fervor with which the drowning seize life preservers, they almost invariably got well. That is why the first edition of the book "Alcoholics Anonymous," published when our membership was small, dealt with low-bottom cases only. Many less desperate alcoholics tried A.A., but did not succeed because they could not make the admission of hopelessness.


It is a tremendous satisfaction to record that in the following years this changed. Alcoholics who still had their health, their families, their jobs, and even two cars in the garage, began to recognize their alcoholism. As this trend grew, they were joined by young people who were scarcely more than potential alcoholics. They were spared that last ten or fifteen years of literal hell the rest of us had gone through. Since Step One requires an admission that our lives have become unmanageable, how could people such as these take this Step?


It was obviously necessary to raise the bottom the rest of us had hit to the point where it would hit them. By going back in our own drinking histories, we could show that years before we realized it we were out of control, that our drinking even then was no mere habit, that it was indeed the beginning of a fatal progression. To the doubters we could say, "Perhaps you're not an alcoholic after all. Why don't you try some more controlled drinking, bearing in mind meanwhile what we have told you about alcoholism?" This attitude brought immediate and practical results. It was then discovered that when one alcoholic had planted in the mind of another the true nature of his malady, that person could never be the same again. Following every spree, he would say to himself, "Maybe those A.A.'s were right..." After a few such experiences, often years before the onset of extreme difficulties, he would return to us convinced. He had hit bottom as truly as any of us. John Barleycorn himself had become our best advocate.


Why all this insistence that every A.A. must hit bottom first? The answer is that few people will sincerely try to practice the A.A. program unless they have hit bottom. For practicing A.A.'s remaining eleven Steps means the adoption of attitudes and actions that almost no alcoholic who is still drinking can dream of taking. Who wishes to be rigorously honest and tolerant? Who wants to confess his faults to another and make restitution for harm done? Who cares anything about a Higher Power, let alone meditation and prayer? Who wants to sacrifice time and energy in trying to carry A.A.'s message to the next sufferer? No, the average alcoholic, self-centered in the extreme, doesn't care for this prospect--unless he has to do these things in order to stay alive himself.


Under the lash of alcoholism, we are driven to A.A., and there we discover the fatal nature of our situation. Then, and only then, do we become as open-minded to conviction and as willing to listen as the dying can be. We stand ready to do anything which will lift the merciless obsession from us.


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Yes, I admit, I am powerless over this anymore....

Nice post Phil. I look forward to reading more on this board. (I work nightshift, so I gotta got to bed), but I appreciate your response. I already feel a little bit better if that makes sense. Even though I'm currentenly downing the last of beer #13.

I never thought it would come to this...but I always knew I was heading for a crash. I googled AA, and wound up here. I had to speak my mind....now just seemed like the time.

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Hi There,


Most of us feel and are "Lost" when we arrive,  So WELCOME


Your can click on the book of Alcoholics Anonymous, here on this site, and Read it On line.


Phil put the 1st Step on his Post.  It is the step that will bring you into the rooms of others that SHARE your problem, and you will discover that YOU ARE NOT ALONE.  I pray that we see you when you wake up today.


God Bless


Toni B 



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Hi There again,


I just wanted to mention that there is a Post on Page 2, just click on page 2 at the bottom,anyway there is a Post Titled "Lost and Found" that may bring some comfort your way.


Toni



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Hi and welcome.  Your last post had me giggling being this looks good after beer #13.


I think anything would look good after beer #13 :)  They both gave you real good advice up above.  The only thing I can add to it is that you might want to also included your DR.  in all this too,to see if you have any damage from all the drinking and if your going to need a detox.


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Welcome Lost, Please keep checking in , you are in the right place to figure out the steps you need to take to get sober. Glad you are here.


(((Hugs)))


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Hi lost and welcome


Yes, you can definatley drink ME under the table, cause I don't drink anymore! But it wasn't so long ago that I said the same thing and I was proud of it!!! How quickly that changed, thank god!!!


Looks to me like you've taken step 1, since you took it on beer 13, you might want to try it again, sober and see how you feel. If you can still admit it,  excellent, now check your local phone book and call Alcoholics Anon. and tell whoever answers the phone "I'm powerless over alcohol and WANT some help".


Good luck, your'e in my prayers.


Keep me posted.


Doll


 


 


 



-- Edited by Doll at 14:02, 2006-01-06

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100% Doll,


We can't get unless we want it and we have to want bad enough to put down the bottle. Then, like you said, we ask for help.


You & he just helped me stay sober one more day.


Thanks, Chris B.



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I agree with checking with your doctor to see if you need detox. keep in touch with us to let us know how ur doin, k?


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Checking back in peeps. Yes, I'm still alive, and thankyou for all of the great responses.

I'm out of state on businiess right now, so can't see the Doc about a detox. I tried my own little experiment....forcing myself not to drink as much. Over the last week or so, I've had the shakes pretty bad. I'ts getting better though.

I talked to my sister about it too. She said the family knows, and has known for a long time. I asked her why no one ever confronted me on it, and she told me that given my personality....everyone knew I would work it out in time.

It's a start I guess.

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