Thanks all, for the welcome, I'm kind of a newcomer, only have 9 years. I belong to several other forums, a Miata forum and a shaved head forum (I shave my head MPB) and I googled recovery forums and found my way here. I also posted on the NA board but there's not much action over there. I'm 50 years old and live in Carmichael, CA. I got my user name by years ago having all the names I'd choose taken and I have a large furry Maine Coon Cat name Samantha. I look forward to getting to know you all. Bob.