A list from people who know...

Aquaman · MIP Old Timer

A list from people who know...

TwelveSteps · Senior Member

NPR just ran a piece yesterday about the way the "funny drunk" portrayal has changed in the original Arthur versus the remake that is currently out that I thought was pretty interesting: http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2011/04/08/135242959/a-history-of-hollywoods-lovable-drunk-arthur-doesnt-booze-here-anymore

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-- Edited by StPeteDean on Sunday 10th of April 2011 07:42:59 AM

LinBaba · MIP Old Timer

TwelveSteps wrote:
NPR just ran a piece yesterday about the way the "funny drunk" portrayal has changed in the original Arthur versus the remake that is currently out that I thought was pretty interesting: http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2011/04/08/135242959/a-history-of-hollywoods-lovable-drunk-arthur-doesnt-booze-here-anymore

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It seems whoever wrote that article was very young and didn't have a grounding in the classics, Humphrey Bogart was drunk in every scene he ever played, he drank thermos' full of "Martini's" all day (straight gin) the thin mans William Powell and Myrna Loy never drew a sober breath, WC Fields was only one of many famous drunks in American Cinema, Bar fights in Westerns, America was HARD drinking in the fifties, when the husband walked through the door the martini was put in his hand by his wife, but the trick was you didn't show your booze, people who "showed" that they had been drinking "couldn't handle their alcohol", that's the era in which I was raised, around people like my father who drank 40 beers a day on weekdays and his friend "LC Hancock" who put 1-2 quarts a day of Jim Beam down

Everyone was drunk, it was just poor form to "show" it

Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf and Days of Wine and Roses were the first movies ever to pull the covers on that lifestyle, and Barfly wasn't a comedy, but i'm still pondering my scariest drunk, it will come to me, but for right now I'll say the Professor in Californication who has one drink, falls off the wagon and does the "peepee" dance, I could only find it in German Though

Rob84 · MIP Old Timer

My first exposure to the effects of alcohol where from the guy above, so I'm not sure why I ever picked-up.

Otis was the "wholesome drunk" from the Andy Griffith Show.

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

mikef · MIP Old Timer

I962(barely 14),iM SITTING IN THE bARDAVON MOVIE THEATER WATCHING 'days of wine and roses" with my mother,(she is a closet drunk) and I remember how the disease would tell me "boy those people(Jack Lemmon.Lee Remick) are in bad shape..I had already at 12 years old been in an alcoholic blackout,found laying in the gutter on the corner of winnikee and mansion,foaming from the mouth with a bottle of 546 pm blended whiskey on the curb.(found out we had robbed a liquor store).They told me i was put in a tub of ice and missed school for a week.And you know what ,it just got worse through the years!!Only by the grace of God and God's mercy and by applying spiritual principles taught to me from showing up,working with a sponsor through our 12 steps and giving back ,going inside "to the exact nature" have I been able to recall some of those things,and be ever so grateful,that a day at a time,in a fit spiritual condition,I will not be back in the gutter foaming from the mouth and missing life in general!Truly a miracle and truly blessed..I was the drunk movie!!!I don't live like that today!!

leeu · MIP Old Timer

The husband in the non-fiction The Burning Bed (Farah Fawcett)--tho the book (Lenore Walker, I think) reveals the extent of his alcoholism far more than the film. For those unfamiliar, he was a hideous, sadistic batterer - his wife finally snapped and killed him-it was the first case in America where the then virtually unknown "cycle of abuse" was central to the defense, and brought the extent of domestic violence to the forefront. It also enabled research into male alcoholism and battering (Murry Straus) to be done and published. The result was to educate the public that alcoholism did NOT "CAUSE" men to be violent batterers...that a causal relationship was a myth. Of course, many batterers have attained sobriety, gotten appropriate help for their abusiveness, and gone on to become better, sober, non-violent persons. Powerful book, powerful film, and the the role of alcoholism is well portrayed even if A.A. is not included subliminally in neon lights!!

pinkchip · MIP Old Timer

mommy dearest?

Mr_David · MIP Old Timer

Interesting...Thanks...I guess.

Just Toni · MIP Old Timer

Mark, "Mommy Dearest" ?? Must have missed the booze, all my memory comes up with is that adorable little girl scrubbing that B....ch's floor, after being dragged out of bed, and all that cleaning dust flying all over, and of COURSE those Wire Hangers....

I thought the movie was about what a monster the REAL Joan Crawford was, not the one you saw everyday, it was a true story, right.....if she was a drunk, probably was, but the stronger message was her savage crulty....

I thought that the movie was prohited from airing until after she died...

Oh what do I know, that was a long time ago, and if you took her liquor away, she would have been even worse!

My addition to bad movie was "Drunks" a lot of real famous people stared in it, but to me it was way too sloopy, and mellow dramatic......not the real deal..

Toodles,

Toni