Respondents are needed for survey

doctorate_student · Member

Survey for current members in recovery that use the 12 step program for treatment

SUSIE · Senior Member

Confused???? NA??? this is a 12 step AA message board.

doctorate_student · Member

The survey is for NA and AA members who utilize the 12 step program as a way to remain sober.

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

We expect you to post back here with the results. biggrin

Reffner · Senior Member

???

doctorate_student · Member

Dean I will post the results in this forum. Thanks

happycamper · MIP Old Timer

Id be happy to participate, but it wont let me click the link ?

doctorate_student · Member

I don't know what happy. Here is the link again for those willing to participate. Thank You all.

http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/378167/the-effectiveness-of-the-twelve-step-based-treatment-program

I don't know whats going on but you may have to copy and paste the link in you web browser

http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/378167/g4731

-- Edited by doctorate_student on Friday 1st of October 2010 05:32:43 PM

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Friday 1st of October 2010 09:22:44 PM

ferrisdp · Senior Member

I checked out the survey (I'm a market research professional so it was of interest ot me). It's a pretty basic survey and she provides a number to contact if you have any issues which is a plus. Doesn't seem like she has an agenda -- I think it's legit. I did need to copy and paste the link in to my browser.

LinBaba · MIP Old Timer

doctorate_student · Member

Respondents are needed for survey

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

Done

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

RE: Survey for current members in recovery that use the 12 step program for treatment

Aquaman · MIP Old Timer

RE: Respondents are needed for survey

happycamper · MIP Old Timer

I did it too !!

Anne Troy · Member

RE: Survey for current members in recovery that use the 12 step program for treatment

kld47 · Senior Member

RE: Respondents are needed for survey

louisa · Senior Member

All done! (and very best wishes with your Doctorate....)
Louisa aww

doctorate_student · Member

You guys are so nice. I having been having trouble with getting people to participates. I have found that people are reluctant to respond I am not sure why as to I will not know if you participate. No one else will know. Right now I have 19 people that have responded so I at least need 31 more people. This survey is for both members of NA and AA. I have found that AA members are more likely to respond. I have this same posting in a NA forum and hardly no one has responded. I have also tried going in person to an ipen meeting and people are just so reluctant to respond. I am not asking anything personal but mainly your thoughts and views of the 12 step program.

-- Edited by doctorate_student on Saturday 2nd of October 2010 11:51:15 AM

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

Dr. S, I've got to chuckle that you're studying addicts and alcoholics and are puzzled that they won't do something that you ask them to do, even though it's relatively simple. lol

jj · MIP Old Timer

LOL, you said it, Dean. i took the survey, no biggie, and it felt good that i could add my own comments at the end.
Thanks Student, wishing you the best luck and education for today and for your future.
jj/sheila

dale63 · Member

You have my opinion as well. Wish you luck in your studies.

Bob K · Senior Member

You've got mine. Good luck with your survey.

Rainspa · Senior Member

I sent an e-mail yesterday to the University and asked if it was a legitimate survey, including all the information posted by the originator.

This is the response:

I would be suspicious of it.

Allen Snow
Periodicals Editor
Office of University Relations
Mississippi State University

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

Rainspa, that statement sounds like "use caution" a shoot from the hip recommendation. It seems doubtful that the editor of the school newspaper would be able to confer with a Prof. and check on a student/ assignment, and get back to you in the same day. And if they did, wouldn't the answer be more definitive? The quiz was short and vague. The only data that could possibly be collected is the IP address.

Rainspa · Senior Member

It's what the U of Mississippi said, not my info.

I doubt that anyone could check on the student / prof anyway as this study is not from someone in the PhD program, but someone that claims they WILL be in the program NEXT YEAR.

So there isn't an assignment, or a professor, but there may be research.
However, as research it is, I am informed, this "survey" is WAY off base for any study by the most lowly undergraduate and not ever done by anyone that's been in class more than a day.

Why? The claim that the info will not be seen by anyone besides the researcher.

The results of research are to be available to the participants.
Evidently a big, big deal, and ALWAYS required.

Not my field, but asked couple of MA's, PhD's and Profs about results that were confidential. They went all "waily, waily, waily", noooooo on me. Never done.

My Guess? Since she says it is for a conference, and will be presented there, it is information to be used for someone's work.

The claim of PhD research and the use of the University of Mississippi is misleading, and slightly less than honest. That concerns me.

The PhD program is something that is to happen in the FUTURE.

Could the info be used later if and when going to U of Miss? Maybe. If the criteria of research are met (results to participants) then it might be valid and usable. But in the current form?

As it stands? Experts say no.

ferrisdp · Senior Member

What she meant was individual responses will not be seen by anyone other than the researcher. This is standard consumer research language (My field is consumer research, not scientific but then neither is this).

Here is tpyical phrasing that I've used for the 22 years I've been in this this field: "Your opinions are important to us. Your responses are strictly confidential and will only be combined with those of other survey participants. We are not trying to sell you anything."

It is not ALWAYS required in consumer research to provide results to participants. That's just not feasible.

The CASRO (Council of American Survey Research Organiziations) website lists the code of standards that legitimate research firms adhere to, with respondent confidentiality most important.

She is a student and does not have to abide by these standards but in my opinion she was pretty buttoned up on the confidentality issue.

I think the exprets you spoke to are mistaken.

Cliff Zukin, an M.A. and PH.D. was a political science proferssor of mine at Rutgers in the early 80's (also was Director at the Eagleton Institute). The class was Public Opinion. We hypothesized that weekly questions to readers of a local paper were misleading. So he had us as students call respondents randomly from telephone books and ask the questions that we re-worded to minimize this bias. We then compared the results. These were never shared with participants and if anyone but Professor Zukin was contacted there would have been no knowledge of this exercise.

I don't see the harm or danger in this at all.

-- Edited by ferrisdp on Wednesday 6th of October 2010 04:31:04 PM

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

Rainspa wrote:

I sent an e-mail yesterday to the University and asked if it was a legitimate survey, including all the information posted by the originator.

This is the response:

I would be suspicious of it.

Allen Snow
Periodicals Editor
Office of University Relations
Mississippi State University

In all fairness to the poster, before posting your suspisions in Her thread, did you make and effort to contact Her? She included her name and contact info promeniently in her comments in the survey.

"Should you have any questions about this study, feel free to contact me at 601-580-7770 or by email at mrs.sabrina.singleton@gmail.com. Thank you in advance for your participation. Your time and effort are greatly appreciated!"

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After doing a quick google search for Sabrina I found her website.

http://sabrinasingleton.yolasite.com/

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"My name is Sabrina Singleton and I have recently graduated with a Master's Degree in Rehabilitation Counseling. In the summer of 2011, I plan to pursue a PH.D in Counseling Education at MSU. Some areas of research that interest me include drug and alochol abuse on college campuses, rehabilitation counseling retention, and disability adjustment. For issues dealing with counseling cases or help with dealing with difficult clients please refer your case scenarios on my blog at www.counselor2counselor.yolasite.com Please feel free to leave your information under the "contact me" tab if you would like for me to contact you. You can also view my profile on linkedin.com

"

Sabrina, I hope that you don't mind me posting these from your website. If so I'll remove them. Good luck with your studies.

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Wednesday 6th of October 2010 05:46:01 PM

LinBaba · MIP Old Timer

I think the choice to do the survey is strictly a personal one, I choose not to for reasons that are my own, I'm surprised there is even a discussion, do it or not, it's a personal decision, next we will be having discussions about whether toilet paper should unroll from the front or the back.

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-- Edited by StPeteDean on Thursday 7th of October 2010 02:58:06 AM

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

Hey folks, let's not hijack this thread any further. If you have a question for the OP, us the PM system or her email and save the thread for comments after taking the actual survey. If you don't intend to take the survey, then don't post in the thread, thanks,

doctorate_student · Member

Ok you guys if you would read my very first posting this is what it says.

Hi everyone. I am an aspiring doctorate student who plan to pursue a phd in clinical counseling next year.

It says I am planning to pursue a doctorate degree. I didn't say I was pursuing one. I am planning on doing it next year.

doctorate_student · Member

Well said LinBABA

Dave Harm · Senior Member

Sorry I'm late to join in... done and did...