Sober now 9 months and lately feeling waves of shame come over me over things I've done in my past. The voice in my head says things like ....
"Look at you, everyone knows what a loser you are."
"People know your secrets and shameful things you have done"
"Your history is not squeaky clean - don't forget where you came from"
Will I ever be able to hold my head up with dignity, rise up above the insults that haunt me. Could these negative emotions be a form of humility? I wonder if this happens about this time in sobriety. I welcome your feedback friends.
This is the evil one trying to tempt you... at least in my beliefs... The disease will always tell you that you can go back out, or drink like a normal person, or try to give you negative thoughts, just realize that NO ONE is perfect. You are a much better person now and continue to get better. Focus on how far you have came...This is what I would suggest from my experience but what do I know lol..
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God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference.
Shame is not humility, Shame is the disease talking, this is a shame based disease, Humility feels good, Shame and Guilt lead us to Drink
Hence: The Steps
Step 5 Promises:
We pocket our pride and go to it, illuminating every twist of character, every dark cranny of the past. Once we have taken this step, withholding nothing, we are delighted. We can look the world in the eye. We can be alone at perfect peace and ease. Our fears fall from us. We begin to feel the nearness of our Creator. We may have had certain spiritual beliefs, but now we begin to have a spiritual experience. The feeling that the drink problem has disappeared will often come strongly. We feel we are on the Broad Highway, walking hand in hand with the Spirit of the Universe.
Step 9 Promises:
If we are painstaking about this phase of our development, we will be amazed before we are half way through. We are going to know a new freedom and a new happiness. We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it. We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know peace. No matter how far down the scale we have gone, we will see how our experience can benefit others. That feeling of uselessness and self-pity will disappear. We will lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows. Self-seeking will slip away. Our whole attitude and outlook upon life will change. Fear of people and of economic insecurity will leave us. We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us. We will suddenly realize that God is doing for us what we could not do for ourselves.
Are these extravagant promises? We think not. They are being fulfilled among us, sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly. They will always materialize if we work for them.
Shame, Guilt, Depression, Anger are all forms of Self Centered-ness, they make us the most important person in the room, if not the world, when the truth is, everyone else is too busy wandering around thinking about themselves to know "what a loser" you are
These parts of our past become our assets in AA and Life in order to help others, the only way I know to overcome this is to work the steps and take another alcoholic through the steps
Step 5 12 by 12
What are we likely to receive from Step Five? For one thing, we shall get rid of that terrible sense of isolation we've always had. Almost without exception, alcoholics are tortured by loneliness. Even before our drinking got bad and people began to cut us off, nearly all of us suffered the feeling that we didn't quite belong. Either we were shy, and dared not draw near others, or we were apt to be noisy good fellows craving attention and companionship, but never getting it--at least to our way of thinking. There was always that mysterious barrier we could neither surmount nor understand. It was as if we were actors on a stage, suddenly realizing that we did not know a single line of our parts. That's one reason we loved alcohol too well. It did let us act extemporaneously. But even Bacchus boomeranged on us; we were finally struck down and left in terrified loneliness. When we reached A.A., and for the first time in our lives stood among people who seemed to understand, the sense of belonging was tremendously exciting. We thought the isolation problem had been solved. But we soon discovered that while we weren't alone any more in a social sense, we still suffered many of the old pangs of anxious apartness. Until we had talked with complete candor of our conflicts, and had listened to someone else do the same thing, we still didn't belong. Step Five was the answer. It was the beginning of true kinship with man and God. This vital Step was also the means by which we began to get the feeling that we could be forgiven, no matter what we had thought or done. Often it was while working on this Step with our sponsors or spiritual advisers that we first felt truly able to forgive others, no matter how deeply we felt they had wronged us. Our moral inventory had persuaded us that all-round forgiveness was desirable, but it was only when we resolutely tackled Step Five that we inwardly knew we'd be able to receive forgiveness and give it, too. Another great dividend we may expect from confiding our defects to another human being is humility--a word often misunderstood. To those who have made progress in A.A., it amounts to a clear recognition of what and who we really are, followed by a sincere attempt to become what we could be. Therefore, our first practical move toward humility must consist of recognizing our deficiencies. No defect can be corrected unless we clearly see what it is. But we shall have to do more than see. The objective look at ourselves we achieved in Step Four was, after all, only a look. All of us saw, for example, that we lacked honesty and tolerance, that we were beset at times by attacks of self-pity or delusions of personal grandeur. But while this was a humiliating experience, it didn't necessarily mean that we had yet acquired much actual humility. Though now recognized, our defects were still there. Something had to be done about them. And we soon found that we could not wish or will them away by ourselves. More realism and therefore more honesty about ourselves are the great gains we make under the influence of Step Five. As we took inventory, we began to suspect how much trouble self-delusion had been causing us. This had brought a disturbing reflection. If all our lives we had more or less fooled ourselves, how could we now be so sure that we weren't still self-deceived? How could we be certain that we had made a true catalog of our defects and had really admitted them, even to ourselves? Because we were still bothered by fear, self-pity, and hurt feelings, it was probable we couldn't appraise ourselves fairly at all. Too much guilt and remorse might cause us to dramatize and exaggerate our shortcomings. Or anger and hurt pride might be the smoke screen under which we were hiding some of our defects while we blamed others for them. Possibly, too, we were still handicapped by many liabilities, great and small, we never knew we had. Hence it was most evident that a solitary self-appraisal, and the admission of our defects based upon that alone, wouldn't be nearly enough. We'd have to have outside help if we were surely to know and admit the truth about ourselves--the help of God and another human being. Only by discussing ourselves, holding back nothing, only by being willing to take advice and accept direction could we set foot on the road to straight thinking, solid honesty, and genuine humility
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Yes, you will be able to hold your head up and in my opinion, you merit holding up your head right now! Nine months of sobriety? Can those that you percieve are judging you even imagine what that means to an alcoholic? (9 months would be impossible, but one day at a time is how it works!) The reason we make amends and do steps 4 through 9 is because of these past transgressions and we face them head on. After we make amends, we continue to take personel inventory to make sure we do not tread the same path again. The longer you have a seperation between you and the past, the longer your track record gets of doing right and staying in the light verses the "shadows". Congrats on your success! Tom
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"You're in the right place. That's the door right there. Turn around."
I've learned to appreciate the difference between shame and guilt. Guilt isn't a bad thing--it's actually pretty appropriate when we've done something wrong. The only people who don't feel guilt are those without consciences. Amends are intended to expiate the guilt. We do what we can to make it right, and that's really all we can do.
Shame is when we keep ruminating on what we've done wrong, and conclude from that that we are awful people. Shame doesn't do you or whomever you've wronged any good at all--it just makes you feel like crap. Shame is unwillingness to forgive yourself.
And as far as worrying about what other people are thinking about us--heck, I'm still surprised now and then that other people don't actually spend every waking moment thinking about me.
Hey Carlotta! May be time to 'MAKE A SEARCHING AND FEARLESS MORAL INVENTORY OF YOURSELF" In your approach to this are you afraid there is a monster inside that if it is released it will destroy you? remembering that fear is a lack of faith, relinquish the fear to the God of your understanding! You will no longer have to be afraid...We became experts at self deeption and rationalization..Honest self assessment is one of the keys to our new way of life. Write about your liabilities, guilt, shame, remorse, self pity resentment, anger,depression ,frustration ,confusion ,lonliness anxiety ,betrayal, hopelessness,failure ,fear,denial, these are a few. Add your assets. the pain of doing it is less than the pain of not doing it, pain can be a motivating factor in our recoveries .This will only be effective if followed immediately by admitting to God, yourself and another human being, the exact nature of your wrongs. Your HP will be with you, and even though God knows the admission it needs to come from your lips, its not simply a reading of step 4.FREE YOURSELF.....skip nothing, rid all your secrets, you may not remember all the past but give it your best and most complete effort there will be time to come back again and again.....Expose the demons from the dark and bring them to die by the light....Honesty is the antidote to diseased thinking....FREEYOURSELF....Later step 9 will continue to help you with your guilt and others with their anger..Sometimes the only amends you can make is to stay sober.....you will be acheiving freedom from the wreckage of your past..You do not need the validation of others to make you feel complete or shameless etc. You are somebody, the solutions are here for us, we just have to incorporate them guided by the power greater than our addiction. We all get into our own heads at different times and periods, social acceptability and sober time do not equal recovery, complacency is the enemy so stay vigilante a day at a time..Congratulations on 9 months, such a blessing..FREE YOURSELF!!!......peace
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Selfishness-self-centeredness! That, we think, is the root of our troubles.
we all suffer from negative self talk in early sobriety. That has to end and be replaced with positive affirmations, gratitude and acceptance. Working steps 4-9 will help you come to terms with the past. I highly reccomend getting a copy of "Daily affirmations for adult children of alcoholics". Imo, it's the best daily reader. I think that you can order a coupy from MIP, if not, amazon.
Will I ever be able to hold my head up with dignity, rise up above the insults that haunt me.
Yes you will!
Carlotta, I today - after some 8 years or so sober (a day at a time !) hold my head up with dignity and for the most part rise above the insults that haunt me - be they come from myself (and I am usually the worst offender!!!!) or if they come from others - very rare.
But I am a human being and I can still get my off days. It is then that I find a daily reader such as the one recommended by Dean a huge help to carry me through - those days pass - but yes sometimes when struck down with one they can seem very powerful. Some days I just need gentle loving and coaxing - for me ACOA literature does that beautifully..
I always put those doubtful thoughts down to the disease trying to get me again .......I no longer fear those days I just see them for what they are......temporary.........they do pass. Horrible as they are !!!!!
You are doing brilliantly and seem so so aware! WELL DONE !!!!
Charlotta, Nothing to add that hasn't already been said. But, I will confirm with the others that a few bricks fell out of my backpack after step 4 & 5, more after 6 & 7 and the remainder after 8 & 9. I keep the backpack light or brick few if I work 10, 11 & 12 on a daily basis. Things will get better if you keep working at it.
This is a great post, and you are not alone in having those thoughts in early sobriety. But I have to say, personally, I hope I never lose your last thought - I hope I never forget that my past is not squeaky clean and that I never forget where I came from. My history is a very empowering fact for others who are trying to recover and I love to share it! It has gotten easier for me as my "past" gets farther away. Then, if you are anything like me, you'll make some stupid choices in sobriety too that will keep you from being perfect and help you to keep making amends, praying, going to meetings, sharing, etc. Also, I think that those feelings and thoughts have their place in recovery. If I had been completely freed from the pain of my drinking immediately and perfectly, I wonder if I would have still had the willingness to kick butt in my program and stay sober. Just the act of you writing this post says something about your willingness. So yay.
Agree 100 %, your thoughts what is reflected in the Clearning away the Wreckage from the Past, dig in do the 4th, and when you do the 5th, this can be done with clergy, does not have to be a Sponsor, (it is stated in the AA Big Book)
I did the 1,2 3, drink, so many times, as the 4th step was just terrifying....then with the desperation that is required we do what ever is suggested.
My opinion, a lot of this thinking is reflective of some toxic stuff you cannot understand, until you put in on Paper, well dear I am only talking about my own experience, did my fifth with an AA counselor, to this day it amazes me that all those old shame and all negative things that I used to feel were the truth, were simply not as bad...I swear Carlotto, when I walked into his office with the intentions of doing the fifth, my FEAR was that he would say get OUT, haha, funny now, cause he shared some very intimate and shameful stuff, and I walk down the hill in the sunlight to my car and to this day, felt I had pulled or rather God had Plucked the Bad Bad Bad person that I believed I was to allow me to see the good in me, we never forget those awesome moments, and I was on my way with the courage to complete the following Steps.
From some song, "Nothing is ever as bad as you "think" it is, but add fear and back in the same hole to dig out from.
Love and Hugs, and it took courage to write that to us, so onward my dear friend. I do agree with Simple, but it is important that I never stare, only glance back to inhale the joy and wonder of being free....and OUT of the Shadows.
Big Warms Hugs,
Your Sissy in Recovery, Toni
-- Edited by Just Toni on Thursday 15th of July 2010 04:07:23 PM
Thank you all. Those messages posted are extremely important to me, you guys really "get it", you really identified with what I am feeling and shared. This is amazing stuff that you all have experienced. I am on vacation for the next couple of weeks, I have a 3 day mini, personal retreat planned for myself, by myself and pray that I can detoxify my mind while I do some serious work on steps 4-6. This will be time of renewal & solitude and I do expect to gain some insight or at least off-load some of the "bricks". Thanks again everyone for taking the time to share. Carlotta
9 months is great, but is also a really tough time! So hang in there! Remember - PROGRESS, not perfection. We are all human beings and we are perfectly imperfect. It's okay to aim for perfection, as long as we remember that we can never achieve it. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other and try to remember not to demand more of yourself than is humanly possible. And for heaven's sake, do keep your head held high right now! You're one of God's children. There's not a single human alive who is not ashamed of things he/she has done. The key is not to DWELL on that shame, but instead to focus on making amends to the best of your ability. Our ability to do this fluctuates from day to day. Sometimes the only amends you can make on a given day is to just not take a drink. That in itself is a living amend that you can make for your past - even if the thing you are ashamed of happened after you got sober. (Getting sober doesn't mean we are suddenly superhuman!)