relapse..... few days of drinking and drugs.... loneliness and insanity captured my mind and heart, and no matter what I did I could not fill the hole..... this is a big problem, and it needs to be addressed and wokred out because I don;t want to be a tornado anymore, and I don't want to die....
My ex stopped over last night just to offer some support. I saw an attorney on Friday morning and he is a pit bull to say the least.... wants me to viciously demand tons of money from my ex, and I really don't want to do that. Last night we talked and we are not even going to file for awhile. I don't need to start worrying about all this, and the medical benefits and all that shit right now. I just need to focus on recovery. I went through a bunch of manic shit over the weekend, spending money, running away form feelings.... ugh.
Back to basics.......
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~Your Higher Power has not given you a longing to do that which you have no ability to do.
Our own literature tells us we can get and stay sober regardless of our present circumstances.
If you dont want to be a tornado and dont want to die, then what are you willing to do to not let those things happen ?
Doesn't sound like you did anything to stop yourself from picking up that first drink. I can only hope and pray for you that you realize that you do in fact have a problem and AA offers a solution. But it certainly isnt magic ... and it aint easy. There is work to be done.
You have a big heart Joni. Just nice to know that you back. Will keep you in my prayer. Do not lose heart. God always cares for us no matter what. In my worst days, when I could not do anything to lift myself, my Heavenly Father was still there.
Joni, Welcome back,Im glad you made it ,some of us don't.I can only say"what are you gonna do different this time?? Just for Today,you don't have to pick up..Stay close okay.......
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Selfishness-self-centeredness! That, we think, is the root of our troubles.
mikef, I got down on my knees and asked God to help me stay sober just for today. I went to a meeting and talked about my decision to use this weekend. I talked to my sponsor. I am to get back on the horse and stay there. 90 in 90. Seeing my psych tomorrow and telling him about the mania. I am not bipolar (at least have never been diagnosed with it, but am diagnosed with PTSD...) but I know what mania looks like, and this is it, no doubt about it. I am not sleeping or eating (made myself eat today... good start with that), and I am talking fast and doing doing doing (even before picking up).... can't slow down. But I did give a fellow AA womana ride home from the meeting this afternoon, she recently relapsed after several years.... she is very depressed and I told her that no matter what, I can't let my disease keep me so depressed that it continues to feed off that. She was encouraged by it, and it helped me stay sober today too.
My sponsor, in light of my very recent thorough Steps 4 and 5, wants me to revisit 1 (of course), 6&7, and get started right away on Step 8. which is where I have always in the past taken half measures. I am just following instructions today. That's all I can do, is to do what I am told and leave the results to God.
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~Your Higher Power has not given you a longing to do that which you have no ability to do.
Joni, My prayers sent your way. Keep at it girl. Your worth it. I've been in your shoes. Just keep trying... take the next right step and God will take care of you.
Hey Joni! Way to go! 3rd step tells us we make the decision(by taking action) and turn our will and "lives"(all parts of them,wife,daughter,mother,friend ,worker,etc)over to the "care" of God and and that our HP will work out the results!I also am praying for you and me and all of us!!Together we can arrest this beast.one day at a time>>peace for real......
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Selfishness-self-centeredness! That, we think, is the root of our troubles.
What matters is that you came back, and your still willing. Once we lose our willingness, we are in a world of trouble. Time to put the bat down for a little while and quit beating yourself up for doing what addicts do. Like Mike said, God is always there to pick us up IF we remain willing and open to do his will. Some days all I have is my sobriety, and some days that has to be (and is) enough. I have to think about my forward movement, weather it's running or crawling. You are NOT judged, and most of all YOU ARE NOT ALONE in this.
There has been a lot to watch here. In three months, 7 relapses. And I'm talking about members with 10 years or more in recovery. They have shared how bad it was, but what really stands out with me is what they told me they stopped doing for their recovery.
If my Recovery is not #1 I could lose it. I'm trying my best to thoroughly follow their path, one day at a time.
So glad you were able to come back. (Grace of God)
I am not gone...I have just been more involved with AA and life lately.
I have been reading your post over and over wondering what the hell to say to you. I asked myself, what would I need to hear from someone if I had just relapsed,after having some pretty good sobriety?
Here I was thinking that everyone else who goes thru divorce hurts/sometimes not, but everyone else must cope with it better than I, including you. I thought, man she is handling it. I am just one of those wondering, if I could weather another divorce, especially sober.
I was at a meeting yesterday,and I later was talking about my marital problems and my kids to an ole timer, whom I admire greatly. He said, "I can think of nothing more, that can cause a relapse like divorce and kids." We laughed, but deep inside it is not funny. Over the years,while in AA I have witnessed people go thru divorce sober! Wow! I have to hand it to them. I went thru watching my mother die last year, and I did it sober, but after a few short months and added marital discord... I finally succumbed to the pressure, and I relapsed. I simply could not see any other way at the time.
I later thought to myself, now you've done it! You may never have another recovery! I could not seem to get back to where I had been...sober and at peace for those previous 2 plus yrs. and for a time everything seemed so pointless. I asked myself, will I have to hit bottom as before in order to get sober,if at all this time? No, I'd suffered enough over the years and too often at my own hands. On and on and on...it was with me. It was just horrendous for me again...I felt doomed.
So I came back to AA as you. I laid things all on the table. I became willing again to listen and learn, because this time I knew and understood completely how serious my condition had become again but this time I had almost lost hope. I knew, that if I did not get sober this time it probably would be my last, because I'd have given up. I had no choice but to get sober and stay there no matter how many mountains I had/have to climb.
I began changing my thinking about my relapse, thus started changing my life.
I am grateful to be here today... Sober and two months better. I am also grateful that you shared with honesty what happened in your life, including relapse, because... Seems to me, that everyone I knew in AA and AA everywhere I'd lived only talked about thier success in the program, and they had never relapsed, as I had. So I felt I had no sounding board for my reoccuring problem. I desperately wanted answers and god knows I didn't have them (answers.) After coming back into the program I desperately sought to learn where I had gone wrong in my recovery program. I could not nor would not take this thing lightly...I couldn't. Regarding my last relapse, I began changing the negative into the positive in my own head in order for me to get better...after all life is going to throw us slime balls,but that doesn't mean we have to catch them. I thought I may as well, make the best out of bad situations and apply it to my own life for the betterment of who I am. Ah,ha and then I might just be of service to others too.
Out of my Daily Reflections Book, I tend to fold down and mark certain pages for later reference. One of the things that has helped me, regarding my last and hopefully final relapse was May 26th in D.R.Book.
Below is the first part of May 26th daily reading:
TURNING NEGATIVE TO POSITIVE
Our spiritual and emotional growth in AA does not depend so deeply upon success as it does upon our failures and setbacks. If you will bear this in mind, I think that your slip will have the effect of kicking you upstairs, instead of down.
JoniJoniiiiii... you are much in my thoughts...when others in the program hurt,so do I. I know that you can do this...get well! Learn from it, improve from it, and move on in the program...
I do not know, if anything I said makes any sense to you, or if it has helped you in anyway, but I knew I had to give it a shot, because I have been right where you are, and I desperately needed someone to share in honesty of how they got thru it. So there. Remember, drinking and other mind altering things are no longer an option.
(Hugs to you) Janet I know that you can recover from this... One can get off of that elevator going down.
-- Edited by janet on Thursday 10th of June 2010 10:03:28 PM
After five and a half years of sobriety, I relapsed... and now in hindsight... that wasn't bad. The bad part for me was the shame I carried around because of it. It kept me away from AA for over two years.
I still wonder how much pain I could have prevented to myself as well as others if I got right back in the program... but I stayed away.
I say it at face to face meetings when someone comes in and say they slip... I admire their strength for not giving up and getting right back at it.
To me, there is no shame in slipping, the shame for me came when I stayed away...
In my thoughts and prayers, Dave
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"A busy mind is a sick mind. A slow mind, is a healthy mind. A still mind, is a divine mind." - Native American Centerness
Joni, I've been right where you're at, with getting clean and sober right at the end of a marriage. It sucked. It was a tough 90/90 but at the end of that the fog lifted and the fear subsided. You're going to have to walk through the fear and get closer to your HP. Up the meetings, and up the prayers. I'm praying for you.
Just for today I will LISTEN to you all and others in AA, and stay sober just for today. I am out of the woods as far as the psych crap, and instead of using if I feel crazy again, I will go as far as to check myself in instead of using. There is too much in my life that is worthwhile, and I am not willing to give up. It is not that I "miss" my ex husband so much, as that my self worth has been damaged to the core. My head knows I am worthwhile and valuable, but my heart starts burning up with solitude and the "now what's". Now what?
Now.... I have a hand that works again by the Grace of God. I have my job back again (part time, perfect for someone who needs to concentrate on herself), I have a beautiful place all my own, bills paid up months in advance, talents to express in my spare time... and no good reason to fall off the deep end into the abyss. Plenty of "excuses" but not one good "reason".
It is indeed hard to get back on solid ground again post-relapse. I would definitely not recommend it! It was easy not to pick up after years of not picking up and dealing with life sober. It is not so easy now that the monster is awake. But it is possible and doable. I just have to put everything out into the light again. All my thoughts and feelings. My urges. My anger and frustration. Stuff like that eats your insides. But not like alcohol and drugs do. They don't bother starting at the inside, they swallow us up whole. I can't do this anymore! I am tired. I can't make that decision again... I have to decide better, even if my ass falls off.
I have lost 34 lb. since last winter when this all started to come to a head. The last 15 I really could not afford to lose. I no more have control over my own body- my eating and sleeping patterns- than I do alcohol. My sponsor tells me to call her every day. I am doing so. My sponsor says a meeting every day. I am doing so. My sponsor said to see my psych. I have done so. He said to up the medication that makes me sleepy. I have done so. I am listening to others who know better than I. I am listening and doing, because I can't make good decisions.
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Thank you Joni. You mean a lot to me and many here on MIP. Keep at it girl! Don't give up. Through this site I've come to know a very intelligent, compassionate and caring person. Your diesase is telling you different right now. Don't listen to it! Your needed here, wanted here and love here. Your friend, Mike.
After five and a half years of sobriety, I relapsed... and now in hindsight... that wasn't bad. The bad part for me was the shame I carried around because of it. It kept me away from AA for over two years.
I still wonder how much pain I could have prevented to myself as well as others if I got right back in the program... but I stayed away.
I say it at face to face meetings when someone comes in and say they slip... I admire their strength for not giving up and getting right back at it.
To me, there is no shame in slipping, the shame for me came when I stayed away...
In my thoughts and prayers, Dave
Dave,
It was always the horrible shame and guilt that kept me away from AA and basically people. The nameless fears...and mental turmoil almost led me to suicide. I felt I had but two choices...get better or die. I had rather been horse whipped, rather than face my fears, or face the people in AA again. It must be quite common to feel this way for an alcoholic...I stayed away from AA also.
This disease is a life long process and journey. Yet, I heard one person at a meeting say,"He was glad that he was an alcoholic, (everyone looked at him as if he were crazy) because I'd rather have done it my way, as to have lived as those who had never drank, or experienced it."
Makes sense to me, if one has some quality sobriety under thier belt.
Joni is in my thoughts and prayers also, Thanks, J
Hi, I feel like a fish out of water. A. A. and my willingness worked for me. I did grab the raft with the desperation that only the dying understand. I did somehow know I could not survive my bottom again. So for reasons I cannot explain A. A. worked for me. As I feel this thread , I tremble. actually physically shake. By signing up to MIP I took the responsibility to share my version of recovery. That version is simple. A person does not need to drink again for any reason. Just for today, one day at a time. I honor all those who after multiple attempts achieved recovery. The old game Russian Roulette came to my mind in early recovery. I gratefully understood I did not have any empty chambers. Drinking would squeeze the trigger. That holds true today. Best Wishes. Wayne T.