I also know after many failed attempts in the past, that I need the support of AA.
My therapist suggested going to a women only meeting. I live in a small town with not many meetings. I am also agoraphobic, so I have to practice driving there first.
I went to a few AA meetings years ago (pre-agoraphobia) and I liked being in the company of others with the same problem, but I was never offered phone numbers and I don't know how you come about getting a sponser.
If anyone can give me some suggestions I am grateful.
Welcome Jamison, 12 days...that's fantastic! Glad to have you here among us. Thanks for keeping me sober another day.
If you can find a women's only meeting in your town that goes aong quite nicely with an unwritten guideline of AA; women help women & men help men. This is, of course flexible, especially here at MIP where we're all pretty much gender-neutral. That's one reason that I like this place.
Sounds like you have a few things to face...things best not faced alone.
LADIES!!!! You know who you are... Could someone please give our new friend a private message and a gentle invitation.
Whatever you do Jamison...please don't give up on the process 5 minutes before the miracle happens!
Aloha Jamison and along with H2Oman let me also welcome you home to MIP. One thing I learned when I very first got into recovery was that if I didn't reach out to these many strangers and beg for help I would die crazy the most important undesireable condition on my soul at that time. I didn't mind dying you see it was the crazy part I didn't want to take with me. Lots of us here have "other" conditions and disabilities and these will manifest themselves at always the wrong times. I use to claustrophobic and also am dysthymic (a form of depression) but the program has never increased the problem in fact the program has given me solutions to both and others. We tend to be a sick lot who have tried to self medicate without prescription and usually in liquid form. You're in the right place and you have mentioned "practice" which we are very very big on. Practice the program in all our affairs; practice the principles; the steps and traditions and slogans. If you practice you come already with a major recovery tool. So how can we help you as you also help us? Many of the Gals here in program have one and maybe two open females only meetings and the Gals here are powerful in recovery with awesome support for each other and unconditional love. I love to watch them walk the program and don't discount the other meetings because HP uses everyone and anyone within reach to support your recovery.
Glad you are here and grateful for your trust. ((((hugs))))
-- Edited by Jerry F on Wednesday 28th of April 2010 01:14:46 AM
Welcome to MIP. I hope you find it as informative and supportive and fun as I have. Women only meetings are a great place to find a female sponsor. Regardless of which meeting you are able to attend you can hear something to relate to if you listen and avoid picking out merely what you don't like. The best thing to do is introduce yourself when it is asked if anyone is new to the meeting or in first 30 days. You can mention you'd like a phone list. Also mention that you are seeking a sponsor.
I cannot say enough about having a sponsor. Make sure you ask a potential sponsor if they have worked all the steps with a sponsor themselves. I recommend looking for someone who has a good sense of the program, solid sobriety time. You may not find something right off the bat and you can use the phone list until the right match happens. I always have the perogative to choose someone else if something isn't working with my current sponsor, but I have to be totally willing to do what my sponsor asks. In my case, my sponsor looks outwardly gruff but is very loving and clearly lives a peaceful and serene life. She has long-term sobriety and a great love for AA. I listen carefully to the things she says.
Isolation is common for many alcoholics. Try accepting that you will be uncomfortable. When we deal with the booze, it is normal to find that fear is at the root of most of our problems. It is hard to ask for help, but when we do, we find a new freedom. When it gets too overwhelming and uncomfortable to stay the same, then I learn to grow and change. AA has great tools to help people learn to live and do it with out alcohol.
Hope to see you around. Feel free to private message if you like. Men and women posters alike are very supportive here. They will tell you about their experiences.
Hi Jamison, Welcome to the board. You know it's interesting to me that we have quite a few newcomers come to this board and tell us that they have various diagnosed anxiety disorders (hope I'm labeling it correctly). When I got sober 20+ years ago most of these named disorders either didn't exist (like S.A.D.) or they were very rare and I never remember hearing of one mentioned in a meeting. We all had the symptoms (along with ADD or ADHD) and many of us were cross addicted to drugs and relationships (codependency) and had undiagnosed depression. But we just called it FEAR and the disease of alcoholism. I remember my first couple of months in meetings, I'd hide in the back of the rooms shaking and sweating, terrified that someone would try and get me to speak (which never happened as it's not required). I was this big construction worker who was afraid of my shadow. During those first few months, I lived alone in an old house that I was certain was possessed with every little noise or creak that I heard. All that went away after about 90 days, but my codependency took a lot of work in another program.
My mother (who is 35 years sober this year) had several nervous breakdowns in the '60's requiring lengthy stays in mental wards. She continued to be a mental patient though the '70's on maintenance meds until she was about a year sober and then didn't need them anymore. If she was bi-polar, that may not have been possible, but she does very well, still using a sponsor and working the steps, and of course going to meetings. I guess what I'm trying to say is that these new labels for good old fear are just a way for Dr.'s to have something to talk about while they typically hand out pills creating more dependents and prescription drug addicts that very well may have been able to get sober and lose these fears. Trouble is that many of us don't tell the Doctors that we are alcoholics or abusing alcohol. Many drink on top of their meds (which is drug abuse). I'm not giving medical advise here, but consider that you didn't have this disorder that you speak of and then all of the sudden you did, along with an alcohol problem. Coincidence? probably not. This disease of alcoholism thrives on fear and all of the character defects are rooted deeply in it. Putting down the drink, working the steps with a sponsor, walking through your fears, developing a daily relationship with your Higher Power and your fears (and your labels for them) will leave you. And it's possible you won't be needing that Doc after a year or two.
To get a sponsor all you have to do is ask. My suggestion is look for one in a step meeting, that way you know that she is working the steps herself. Keep coming back.
-- Edited by StPeteDean on Wednesday 28th of April 2010 04:52:49 AM
Hi Jamison, Welcome home. I have been there. Eventually got sober in AA and vigorously started to work the steps with the help of a sponsor. Today all of my phobias have gone as I remain in recovery and help others. Feelings are not real. I got better despite how I felt. I just stuck to the recovery principles. God bless, Gonee.
Welcome Jamison! to a wonderful lifelong journey of recovery.Not always rosy but always better than your best day drunk!Keep coming back ,let us knoww how your doing ,congrats on 12 days!!!!
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Will write later, have to go now, but just wanted to say Welcome to MIP...sounds like you have come to just the right place and 12 days, that is fantastic.....
One thing, maybe you could call the AA Hotline and say you need a ride, someone would come, and take you to your first meeting .......We need Each Other...does your town have an Alano Club? that is another place you could call for a ride....
Hi Jamison! I am new too, I am on day 17 and this place, as well as meetings have really helped me. I find I'm able to say more on here and get all my feelings out since I'm less shy and I know people can just choose not to read it if they don't feel like it. I have anxiety disorders as well. I don't mind going outside, it's the people I find once I'm there...
On the left side are links to pages about this. I noticed under coping that it says Alcohol and Illicit Drugs makes your condition worse.
My prayers will be with you that you can overcome and get to an AA meeting.
If you find you just can't do it perhaps a phone call to your AA central office as listed in the phone book and a brief explaination of your condition followed by a request may induce some very nice AA members to bring AA to you in the safety of your home.
In either case keep us informed because WE REALLY DO CARE!!
Larry, --------------- FEAR = Failure Expected And Received FEAR = False Evidence Appearing Real FEAR = False Expectations Appearing Real FEAR = Fear Expressed Allows Relief FEAR = Feelings Every Alcoholic Rejects FEAR = Fighting Ego Against Reality FEAR = Forget Everything and Run FEAR = Face Everything and Recover FEAR = Frantic Efforts to Appear Recovered
Welcome Jamison. I agree with Dean (haven't said that in a while, but it's one of my standard responses). I came here to MIP initially stating I had Generalized Anxiety Disorder....which I guess I do...but in 19 months sober, it has gradually lessened and lessened little by little. Alcoholism is a disease that will force you to the point of being alone (or taken care of by others) in your house with just you and the bottle when it gets to the later stages. It turned me from having been an extrovert at one time (life of the party) to a total recluse and introvert. Changing back into an extroverted person (not shy) happened pretty fast. Anyhow, I am only saying this to give you added hope as a person who is dually diagnosed. There is a saying in AA which is "More will be revealed." I do not know how much I have clinical anxiety and depression versus how much I drank myself into those problems. I DO know countless alcoholics now who also suffered crippling anxiety and drank on top of abusing anti-anxiety meds and the anxiety did lessen substantially or go away completely with sobriety. So, I would just say not to let agorophobia keep you from a meeting. Also, the prescribed treatment for phobias is typically exposure response prevention anyhow and I cannot think of a safer, more kind place to practice and regain social skills and the ability to feel part of society once again than in the fellowship of AA. Please keep us updated and I think you are about to embark on something really wonderful here. It has been that way for me.
Mark
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I called our AA hotline and they don't provide rides.
I am very isolated as you stated Pinkchip. I know AA will help me tremendously.
Sorry agoraphobia is so hard to explain, but Larry, thank you for taking the time to look it up!
Thank you also for understanding the dual diagnosis.
I have 16 days and have been reading this site alot.
I plan on getting to a meeting Wed. (I am looking forward to it)!!
I am also grateful for the non-judgement, I know they say 90 meetings in 90 days, but you all understood and encouraged me, rather then preach. If I didn't have the mental disorder I would be there asap.