It feels like I'm being held to ransom here...

bikerbill · MIP Old Timer

It feels like I'm being held to ransom here...

Aquaman · MIP Old Timer

Brakes are over-rated anyway.

They don't do anything for propulsion, so they're not REALLY in the way of you GOING anywhere exactly, just stopping once you get there.

Seriously, though, that seems like quite a hose-down. Is that 20mm too thin or too small in diameter? Well, either way is bollocks as their either ready for a ripe over-heating or you'd have to move your calipers.

Sorry, man. I kinda know how you feel about your bikes. Strange company, though. Most folks put their mistakes back in the front of the line in the name of customer service. JFK sadi "It's not a mistake until you turn your back on it." I guess they don't mind mistakes. Sorry man.

Rob

Mike B. · MIP Old Timer

BB,
I can feel your pain. I get worked up sometimes when my play things don't run. disbelief

My sponsor always puts me back in place with these cadillac problems. He will say stuff like: you have a bike to fix? You have a spare bike in the shed? You have a license to drive those bikes?
Do you know how many people would like to have those 2 bikes and a license to drive them?

Gotta love the sponsor..... biggrin

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

So what kind of bike are the brakes being made for? You could always change the front end to something more available. I sucks having rare vehicles. I used to pull my hair out trying to find parts for my sunbeam alpine (before internet). I'm restoring an '82 husky 430 XC (cross country enduro). A handful of indiiduals sell parts for these and consequently simple gaskets are $14 and such. What was I thinking when I bought it? Oh well my last fling with a vintage bike. Not so vintage as yours, but a pain just the same. At least I've got a few jap bikes that I can throw a leg over and just ride.

cindy · Senior Member

for some reason i now feel inspired to attach the lawnmower engine to my bicycle, live to ride..ride to live! hehe

Jerry F · MIP Old Timer

BB Cindy and Dean may have some real solutions there. For me I'd go looking for
some place that could reman the pad if the pad is the only problem. I say the
Serenity Prayer everytime I go fleeting after at 87/88 759cc Magna. Glad its not
a Tanguerey. Sooo Glad. I've already been down on the tarmac with a Honda
wrapped around my ankle yet that is no deterent to wanting something bigger,
faster, and more powerful looking. I need to keep the Higher Power I've already
got. Go hunt for a remand place. Have a good one.

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

cindy wrote:

for some reason i now feel inspired to attach the lawnmower engine to my bicycle, live to ride..ride to live! hehe

Lawn mowers Rule!

http://www.grit.com/uploadedImages/GRT/articles/issues/2007-07-01/LawnmowerRacing.jpg

bikerbill · MIP Old Timer

7 year old Aprilia Rallye Raid - the sort of thing that looks like you're going World Travelling when you're really going to Wal Mart. Why did I buy it - well, the price was right, it's exclusive and I didn't want a BMW!

The brake discs are fully floating one peice discs, but the mounting slots on the discs are worn so that they float a bit too much (OK a lot too much).

The discs have ended up 20mm too small in diameter.

I'm powerless over this, there is nothing that I can do. Shout at the company who are providing the spares - what will that get me? Go to Italy and shout at the engineer? Don't even speak Italian.

Good point made - this is a cadillac problem and it won't be life threatening for me to wait a bit longer. At least the weather is marginal for riding, so I don't have to make a decision about riding or not.

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

Oh one of these bad boys, and adventure tourer. that's a schnazzy looking bike you could ride in the Paris/Dakar on that thing. biggrin

Does yours have the milk boxes on the back? We used to have those on our front door step when I was a kid and the milk man bring it.

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Friday 12th of February 2010 06:51:16 PM

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Friday 12th of February 2010 06:52:42 PM

turninggrey · MIP Old Timer

Hey Bill,
I suggest a moped. There are lots of parts out there, and if you wear lots of leather protective gear and with the right tassles in the handle bars, you will be styling!!! Good luck on the parts.
Tom

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

Hey Bill, If your bike is an ETV1000 then this ebay seller says these discs will fit your bike. I searched 6 times for Ralley Raid and when I dropped that and went for ETV1000 Caponord these came up. It appears that the difference in the Caponord and your bike is the panniers (I hope). I having a hard time believing that no one knew this though. apologies if I'm wrong. EBC brakes doesn't make a rotor for your bike, Brembo lists this part number for a 2002 Caponord - part # 08.4899.63/64

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Front-Disc-Brake-Rotor-GOLD-Ducati-750-916-996-Aprilia_W0QQitemZ300378844040QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20091218?IMSfp=TL091218208001r965

Says that they also fit a lot of bikes.

Dimensions
Outer Diameter: 320mm
Inside Diameter: 64mm
Bolt spacing: 80mm
Thickness: 5mm
Weight: 1.47kg

Part DBFFSS7591G

Compatibility
Direct replacement for the following models:

Aprilia
125 MX Front 04-06
125 RS Front 92-05 (Radial Caliper) Front 06-07
125 Tuono Front 04-06
SL 750 Shiver Front 07
NA 850 Mana Front 07
ETV 1000 Caponord Front 01-04
RST 1000 Futura Front 01-04
RSV 1000 Mille Front 99-04
RSV 1000 R Front 04-08
RSV 1000 R Factory Front 04-08
RSV 1000 R Mille Front 00-03
RSV 1000 R Nera Front 04
RSV 1000 R Tuono Front 04-07
RSV 1000 SL,SP Mille Front 00-01
SL 1000 Falco Front 00-04

This front floating disc rotor is constructed from 420 stainless steel, with a gold anodized 6061 Aluminium alloy centre hub for light weight. The shape of the disc ensures good heat dissipation under heavy braking sessions, reducing brake fade, minimising warping, and ensuring rotor longevity. The slotted rotor ensures water and dirt are dispersed quickly when braking.

Features:

- Laser cut, high carbon stainless steel hardened and tempered to ensure low pad and rotor wear characteristics.
- Suitable for left and right hand fitments

Installation
These are a direct replacement for the original rotor, simply remove existing rotor and install the new one.

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Saturday 13th of February 2010 06:39:59 AM

bikerbill · MIP Old Timer

Yep, that's the boy, with the tin topbox too. Lot's of upgrades over standard, different front and rear suspension, bodywork, seat, tank, indicators, brakes, ECU etc.

I'll check out with that supplier for the different brake discs, but on mine, the floating occurs at the hub, but if this one fixes rigidly to the hub and floats on the rotor (semi floating) and it's the right size then it'll do the job. And at £aus169 they;re much cheaper than Original equipment.

I'll check the specs, do some measuring, and contact the vendor but I'm pretty sure these wil fit the standard ETV1000 but not the Raid version, due to the offset.

Thanks for the help. Fingers crossed.

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

In the other picture It looks like the offset is about 3/8" - 1/2"

Click to close full size.

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Saturday 13th of February 2010 06:44:40 AM

leeu · MIP Old Timer

Fascinating!! I so enjoy you guys!!! Pretty pics, 2...looks like art. (Yeah, I know, it IS art!).

bikerbill · MIP Old Timer

Nope, there's a 5mm off set. there is no offset on my bike, but thanks for trying

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

That stinks. I'm assuming that you checked Brembo. Is that the oem supplier, that you're trying to get to make new rotors? Hard to believe they'd make them incorrectly.

TwistedServant · Member

nice bike.

bikerbill · MIP Old Timer

StPeteDean wrote:

That stinks. I'm assuming that you checked Brembo. Is that the oem supplier, that you're trying to get to make new rotors? Hard to believe they'd make them incorrectly.

people make mistakes. Patience and Tolerance.

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

so it is Brembo?

bikerbill · MIP Old Timer

yup. But I'm not dealing direct with them. (They apparantly don't deal direct with individuals)........... I have to go through an intermediary, (the spares supplier) and there aren't many Aprilia suppliers in the UK, so I pick the one nearest to me. Because he was 10 bob cheaper.......maybe I should have gone to the aprilia dealer in Sutton Coldfield where I got the top case from (off the shelf!)