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Aloha All...

Wanting to share an HP moment here.  It is a kinda, sorta 12th step event looking
back and is about driving pass the AA club to drop off some stuff I picked up from the
neighbor that I thought the club could make use of.  It's still raining so I wasn't too
inquisative about that lone young man sitting in the outside waiting area smoking a
cig.  Tank top and shorts? well this Hawaii and he was dressed for the atmosphere.
He wasn't looking at me and I noticed I didn't catch his attention at all from the get
go.  His blank far off stare was better than the ones I use to employ in the past and
then my counseling experience said...what?  I introduced myself and asked  him if
he was waiting for the noon meeting and the look I finally saw was I'm here and I
don't know where that is.  No verbal response.  Hand shake response not familiar, 
physcologically detached.  "Do you need help?" that one got him off of the chair and
kinda starting to follow like a lamb.   Catatonic? to animated.  Drunk? can't remember
being myself or being with a drunk that was this detached.  Drugs?...Wait a minute 
I'm no longer in the industry and I got work to do.  So I got thru the rain into the 
truck and thought...He'll be okay...He'll snap out of it...guys for the meeting will be 
there is a while and that lasted for about 3 - 4 hundred yards and then my HP got
thru to me.  "When did you stop being of help to others?"   The response was all
of about 3 minutes.  Pull out of traffic, key in 911 on the cell pad, give the information.  
Last time I did this was for a drunk in public and a danger to himself and others.
I had not problem them...why did I hesitate this time and why did I question if 
he was one of us first?  A lapse I need to take a look at with other recovering
members of the fellowship.  Apathy?  Complacency?  Fear?  lessening of 
compassion?   Maybe that or more.   

I have learned to drop the word alcoholics from the recitation of the 12step mostly
because of my Al-Anon experiences.  Replace it with "others" yet this time it took
a direct confrontation from my HP to simply care.    I know that young man was
put there for a reason...for me to wakeup listen, learn and practice.

Give me some feedback as you can.   Thanks for letting me share.  ((((hugs)))) smile  

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Hi Jerry,

Sounds like you were just listening afterwards in traffic to your intuit, and when we do things such as that, spontaneously, we just do. I do believe too that it is a message from another source.

Once, when driving in the rain, a woman fell, broke something, and was bleeding pretty bad, and I just instinctively stopped my car in pretty heavy traffic, in the center lane, the only one that was not just going on in the traffic, and grabbed whatever i could, in this case it was a real expensive drapes that my mother in law had just given me, and I called an abulance and they took her, along with the drenched drapes off to the hospital.

Never really knew anymore about what happened to her, I assumed the abulance took her to a place for medical attention. I just knew at that moment in the heavy rain that someone HAD to do something, so I was following my instinct, but I have to tell you the COW my mother in law had, when I told her the drapes were gone. But she was not there.

So glad you did what you did, the poor soul sounded like he surely needed some help, and you did just that, you got him that help.
God Bless,
Toni




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Hi Again Jerry,

Just wanted to say that my response yesterday, was a little off, so I wanted to respond again to what You were saying. (your Post sort of triggered an old memory and off I went on my stuff.)

But in re-reading your Post again, and the questions you were asking, more from yourself, right?

When I read the Post this morning, my take, it seemed to make a lot of sense that you would not know what exactly to do, and leaving because of that fact, also made some sense, but YOU did think it over, and YOU did get some help for the man.

Some of our beloved brothers and sisters in this Program, have grave emotiional and mental disorders, and when the Alcohol goes, for some, those disorders remain.

But the bottom line is that you did make a call for him, to assist him in getting some help, and that was enough from my point of view.

I just did not see you faultering in anyway, and wanted you to know that.

My regards, Toni


-- Edited by toni baloney on Friday 17th of April 2009 10:33:38 AM

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