This isn't good- I have a few anger and resentment issues.
I was at a meeting last Saturday and everything was fine- good share etc.. Then, at just 8:40, one of the duty members started tidying up and collecting cups when the chairperson had just started handing the meeting around the room. His reason being that we had to be out by 9:30.
I fucking hate that, when I'm just about to speak and someone is busy tidying up at my feet. I didn't say much and in any event, we finished at 9:15.
The same one or two people do this at another meeting and it really bugs me. Why not do this at the end?
Anyway I got to another meeting on Monday morning which I really needed.
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I've got one for you.Yesterday, it was this women's first meeting so of course we had a 1st Step meeting.She did not know anything about meeting decorum or how it works and she crossed talked a couple of times.Should have seen me at my first meeting, I was drunk.Anyway, a guy who's been around for a while, yelled at her. "Lady we don't cross talk!"I wanted to jerk a knot in his neck.A couple of other people yelled back at him. "You're not the chair! Who are you to tell someone not to cross talk!!You still don't get it!!" Luckily someone started sharing and we got back on track.This guy has had me practicing tolerance from the beginning. What I'm getting at is that for a moment our focus left our new friend and went to someone who may or may not have known better and still has a little to learn.(And I'm sure he'll be talked to by those better able to do that.)We are such an undisciplined bunch, but with time and prayer a lot of these things straighten out.I've got to try to remember why I'm there.People teach me a lot, and sometimes that is, if nothing else, what not to do. Thanks for sharing, I often wondered if this kind of stuff only happens here.
Of course I belong to a tight fellowship which consists of mostly gay men and lesbians (yeah perhaps many of you didn't want to know that but oh well). In any case this leads to much drama and people talking about each other, dating each other, blah blah blah. At the end of the meeting someone was waiting for another person to come out and started screaming and threatening them regarding talking about them behind their back. It was scary and violent. A fight almost broke out. I was like "WTF, how can this happen at an AA meeting?" Have any of you seen anything like this? It was disturbing and really screwed up any message that I got from the meeting and set me on a messed up course in my head. So yeah, I pretty much almost witnessed people hitting each other at a meeting. Crazy. I believe this is where the concept of "if it doesn't fall into my hoolah hoop, it's none of my business" comes in as my immediate reaction was wanting to call other people in the fellowship and be like "guess what so and so did!" But for once I largely kept my mouth shut. Thank God.
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I believe this is where the concept of "if it doesn't fall into my hoolah hoop, it's none of my business" comes in"
lol, sometimes the wisest choice is to keep the mouth shut! I can think of many instances where that would have been the better choice. Must remember the hoolah hoop wisdom!!
I guess we freak out because we think of an aa meeting as a safe haven away from the real world...But, is it really so...People were appalled the other night at a meeting because someone came in and was so drunk and obnoxious! Or people that are new that "cross talk" because they dont know any better!! It should be all that we expect but it also is the real world...The ones that dont know or dont get it need to be guided like I was... Perhaps we could volunteer to pick up for the person who needs to leave early...or pull the new person aside and explain the "rules"......
Yes pink, we will always have drama and people talking about others but it is our job to not be a part of it and perhaps walk away! Good job or keeping it to yourself!!
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This hits home. At my home meeting there was/is an elderstatesman of the group who continues to speak when another person is taking their turn - so - I spoke to the chair person afterwards (who by the way did nothing about it during the meeting) and he said to me that he lets him away with it because of his age( 80-90)?????????????? Where is it written that there is an age limit on cross talk because if there is, boy, I just can't wait.
Later - Jeannie
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I recently went to a meeting and had just blown two months sober and hadnt said anything at a meeting as I didnt know anyone and was quite shy and I would rather listen because my head was a mess. For the two months i was sober i maybe spoke twice, just to let people know where I was at etc.
Anyways I ended up having a slip and had a fight with my partner got arrested for screaming like a lunatic etc.(you all know the drill)..spent the night in jail etc. released out of court in the morning with a breach of the peace and straight to the booze to drown my sorrows, patched things up with my partner and after 2 days went back to a meeting, drunk but in need to get all the crap outta my head by sharing.
I was in the meeting and i guess I was ranting and sounding pretty messed up and I was stopped by two dudes one of which is 8 years sober or something and they were polite and such and said maybe you should give someone else a chance to share...okay fine...then he goes on to share...needless to say I felt really embarrassed and empty. Not too mention angry and resentful of the guy. I thought to myself 'What a prick, what if I never come back, it'll be his fault' 'I'll get him'
I never went back to an AA meeting since. that was 3 months ago. now I am detoxing and plan to return after I get out of the hospital for pancreatitus...I showed him allright...I almost killed myself.
The point is I shoudnt have gone to the meeting pissed and I shouldve been more considerate of others. I shouldve been fearless and thourough from the start
"...I never went back to an AA meeting since. that was 3 months ago. now I am detoxing and plan to return after I get out of the hospital for pancreatitus...I showed him allright...I almost killed myself.
The point is I shoudnt have gone to the meeting pissed and I shouldve been more considerate of others. I shouldve been fearless and thourough from the start.."
That is what everybody does til we realize that you can't make somebody else sick by taking the poison yourself...or something equally ugly like that. Point is everyone has been there . Some just takes longer and may be harder . But some just never get it!
motorhead, you maybe got hurt pretty bad (by your own recognition) but you are learning something really good.
Even the most composed of people can do this kind of thing. It truly is a learned skill to communicate effectively without anger and muscle sometimes. We get tested, hopefully the more we get tested the better the score in self composure.
And yup, I love Hoolah Hoop Wisdom! Did you invent that idea Pinkchip? (I know Hasbro invented the plastic hoolha hoop, with the bead in it, those were fun !, lol...That may tell how old a person is!!
Holding my tongue was not used recently at a meeting(not aa). I wish to God I could have remembered the wisdom. Could have avoided something but I fell right in it. But chalk it up to a good way to remember to practice holding the tongue next time.
Gee, looking back at what I wrote 4 months ago. This just doesn't happen anymore. I got more involved in service and have a different duty now. As much as is possible, I try to empty my mind before an AA meeting-maybe a little meditation, or I say the Step 3 prayer. That isn't to say I can't share if there is something on my mind; but I won't take any resentments away from a meeting. I can easily remind myself of the group's common purpose and how I owe AA my life. Problems dealing with situations outside AA, but that is why I keep going to meetings.
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nice message Dreamnine, remember that we are sick people trying to get well. Some are sicker than others and "but for the grace of God...". I think Easy does it and live and let live work there as well