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I want to belong somewhere. But I am alone, and will remain so.
Too much sexual shame. Cannot let others get close, risk revealations.


Alcohol slows it all down. Sleep away the ugliness of what I am.
How I envy you that can be a part of A.A., and have such mundane problems!
Eternally alone.

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Hello Friday! 
Glad you're here and glad to know you've been exposed to A.A.  For me, A.A. helped me put the drink down and from there I was able to begin to work on those other issues I have.  It hasn't always been easy, but worth it.

I hope you will continue to come and share. 

You are not alone anymore!


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This literally sounds like someone I know that just relapsed.  My response is the same either way.  Problems of those in AA might seem mundane, but it's because the members are working the program and no longer feel ashamed of nor shut the door on the past...a past which often did include horribly shameful things that we felt set us apart from others.  Of course there are painful revelations to be made in sobriety, but what worse revelation is there than to think you are "eternally alone and you hate God?"  Nothing.  AA is for anyone with a desire to stop drinking.  It is that simple.  The things you feel ashamed over are undoubtably things that at least a few other people can directly identify with, though you might not feel it now.  You might not feel it until you hear others say what they did in the past and it is the same thing that you think is so unforgivable.  Anyhow, I really feel for you and my heart goes out. You don't deserve that way of life.  God bless.

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Believe in the love that is here, the healing that is available, go to seek the people who are making it their career or specialty to help, such as AA or a hospital... for healthful guidance.  

 

You are not alone

 



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Friday wrote:

I want to belong somewhere. But I am alone, and will remain so.
Too much sexual shame. Cannot let others get close, risk revealations.


Alcohol slows it all down. Sleep away the ugliness of what I am.
How I envy you that can be a part of A.A., and have such mundane problems!
Eternally alone.



Friday our perception of our past or present is colorized  by our description of it.  It's kind of a "chicken or egg" discussion but we can change our dialog about our past and consequently change our perception of it as byproduct.  Does that mean that we BS ourselves?  Perhaps, but it's probably the UnBSing of ourselves, as we alcoholics add a ton of drama to everything.  And the telling and retelling (reliving) of it keeps the memory fresh in our mind instead of letting it fade away, which it will.  This is explained very well in the movie  "what the bleep do we know".  Please rent it and watch it.

Am I saying that what happened to you wasn't bad?  No.  What I'm saying is that it doesn't have to define you and ruin you present and future.   We All had traumatic experiences as children, young adults, and adults.  We have to learn to move on emotionally and let it go.  Imagine pretending that it doesn't matter for just a day.  Try it.  Then try another day.  That's what one day at a time is. 

Dean

 



-- Edited by StPeteDean at 09:07, 2009-01-18

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The AA Promises


If we are painstaking about this phase of our development, we will be amazed before we are half way through.

We are going to know a new freedom and a new happiness.

We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it.

We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know peace.

No matter how far down the scale we have gone, we will see how our experience can benefit others.

That feeling of uselessness and self-pity will disappear.

We will lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows.

Self-seeking will slip away.

Our whole attitude and outlook upon life will change.

Fear of people and of economic insecurity will leave us.

We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us.

We will suddenly realize that God is doing for us what we could not do for ourselves.

 

Are these extravagant promises? We think not.

They are being fulfilled among us - sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly.

They will always materialize if we work for them.

Alcoholics Anonymous p83-84

Glad u r here. Wagon



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That could have been me writing what you wrote.  I had no use for God, not because I didnt believe He could help me but rather I was fearful He would punish me.

 

 

I hated going to meetings and listen to stories which did seem mundane.  But I kept going and over time, my walls began to come down.  I had no other choice.  I had to begin trusting someone.

 

 

When I began sharing, I began making friends and then they shared with me.  They didnt always have mundane problems.  They dealt with some pretty serious problems.  How did they deal with them?

 

 

By sharing, by listening, and by praying.  When I let go of my shame is when my Higher Power entered my life.  It may sound trivial because when others said it to me I blew it off.  But it is the truth.  As an alcoholic I needed to trust someone.  And that someone was God.

 

 

When that took place my life changed.  I did some horrible things when I drank but I am not a horrible person.  I am an alcoholic.  Ive made amends and have forgiven myself.  And all that was made possible through God.

 

Creating Dreams, from the nightmares of hell...



-- Edited by Dave Harm at 17:14, 2009-01-18

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Hi Friday,

Great to see that you made it here. You sound like a guy who is searching for a better way of life, just like all of us here. I don't believe your last statement "eternally alone" when your first statement says that you want to belong. I agree with Dean about that movie, it is amazing, helped me put a lot into perspective. My perspective has changed a lot since I got into recovery. Yes, there is a lot that I regret in my past but I've put that behind me, I don't re-live the emotions of those times and have learned to live life on life's terms now. I will never be cured of my disease but I choose to recover among others in the same boat. It is getting better and it will for you too. Be patient and take it one day at a time. Please keep coming back, we all help each other.

Scott

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Welcome to MIP, Friday. You have an adept talent for expression & your words touched that part that exists in me too. Pre Recovery I felt much the same as you on my worst days & I can assure you they can return if I ever take that first drink again or grind to a total standstill with my program. We are human & we experience a myriad of thought & emotion. You are not alone. You are with us & we are you just as I am everyone here too. Everyone here touches me in ways that they can't imagine but can guess because we each in turn touch everyone & receive one another. We're interwoven & together.

I have found the fellowship of AA & so have you. You are welcome here & you never have to be alone again. Getting sober is one of the most amazing adventures in life you can have & you will find & accept & love so much in yourself you never thought possible. I am overwhelmed with how people can reflect the love of my Higher Power to me right now. The gratitude & coming to life again, again & again I am feeling wakes me up to the beauty & relevance that exists in all of us. If you are like us you will know that 1 drink is too many & 1000 never enough.

Alcohol is a killer for me & it stunted my sunlight. I was seeking spirituality & hope in a lethal place & it wasn't until I put the drink down that my true journey was able to begin. Of course, all that I experienced before is an asset for me now & helps me to help another today but before I had the Steps of AA to work through my past & learn about how my alcoholism works in me I couldn't function for the shame I had in me. I am reconciled with growing understanding & free from the shackles of my past today 1Day@aTime & you can be too with a great desire & a preparation for hardwork knowing that you are worth it & that we will love you until you learn to love yourself as is still done with me today. 


Of course there are painful revelations to be made in sobriety, but what worse revelation is there than to think you are "eternally alone and you hate God?"  Nothing.  AA is for anyone with a desire to stop drinking.

I love this. It will become the entire opposite for you if you take your courage, surrender & give yourself to this simple program. Keep coming back, attending meetings & reach out for help. We can't make anybody love us.. We can only let ourselves be loved. You are loved, Friday. Keep coming back & share with us how you are. Godblessings, prayers & fellowship, Danielle x

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