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If you have decided you want what we have and are willing to go to any length to get it-then you are ready to take certain steps.

How it works pg 58

What is this "IT" that they talk about? Pretty simple...."IT" is a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps.

I sometimes feel like this is a missing step that comes before step one. Doesn't that mean I have to first decide that... that is what I really want...And that I'm willing to do anything to get it? Not a lot of things....Not a whole bunch of things.....Anything.....Before I'm ready to take certain steps? I think it does....And until you've reached this point....It seems to me making any progress is a long road. I had to be completely hopeless to get to this point....I look at that as a gift.



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Excellent.

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Ahh Stepchild - could it be , the freedom , the confidence & all those other things

"we see" in an 'older sober person' .AAfter my 1st meeting  , all I wanted to do , was to -

Be Happy , be free , no more pain & to be "back on the tramp" outback , driving Road-Trains .

As I had mentioned when I shared that I was a Semi driver . Talking to an 'osm' after the

meeting , he mentioned I might need to stay off 'the road' for a while , get some strength up ,

& I might want to go back driving then , well after 2 & a half yrs , I did .

So , I would say I again became a 'free spirit' & yes I awakened to a Brand NEW Life . I also see "IT"

as not being "h h h" - Homeless , Hopeless & Helpless , the last & the least . At the end of my drinking ,

even 'the village idiot' could 'put it over' me . So there was only one way to go ^ ^ ^



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Zoomtopz wrote:

Ahh Stepchild - could it be , the freedom , the confidence & all those other things

"we see" in an 'older sober person' .


 That's "IT".



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'No worries mate' ... that is when I felt I was getting it! ... ... ...



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i believe "it" is ALL of the promises in the BB.


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Hi Stepchild, Wow...what a great post!!!  You got us thinking.  Blessings, Mike D.



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In a strict grammatical sense "it" is "what we have".

Bill describes what we have in a very fitting way "I was to know happiness, peace, and usefulness, in a way of life that is incredibly more wonderful as time passes."

God bless,
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I believe the promises, the happiness, the peace and the uselfulness can only be achieved one way...One solution....

Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps...

If you know of another way for a real alcoholic to find these things...I'd love to hear it.



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Yep, through the steps...I agree though for most, this does mean meetings, fellowship, regular calls to sponsor, and reading and absorbing lots of AA literature. I've not seen good results when people just go to meetings. I have also not seen good results when people go through the steps, declare themselves recovered and stop meetings...maybe because that is a step failure there at steps 11 and 12...dunno. "It" was the whole shebang and AA lifestyle for me. I also believe some folks believe they are powerless and that alcohol makes their lives unmanageable, but the don't care or don't care enough. So yeah, absolutely agree with your sentiments about willingness. I think willingness is supposed to occur in step 6, but my experience has been that if folks do not have some good bit of willingness from the get go, they don't make it to step 6. Great post SC.

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I think I had some progressive spiritual awakening from each step too...that may be controversial. Not sure.

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It seems like they tell us here....We aren't ready to take certain steps...Until we are willing to do anything...Go to any length....

If you have decided you want what we have and are willing to go to any length to get it-then you are ready to take certain steps.

They also tell us those promises will always materialize...If we work for them. What do we work?

As far as meetings go....I have to look at my recovery as a three part program.....It just happens to be the three parts on the back of an AA coin.

Recovery....Steps

Unity....Meetings/Fellowship

Service....Carrying the message/Sponsorship

It's like a three legged stool....Take away one leg....You're going to fall.



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Great post, Stepchild. Thank you!

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That is a good point. Thanks SC. The principle behind step 6 is willingness but you are right...that quote does show we need it prior. The also say step 6 separates the men from the boys (sorry women, I know that's sexist...just a slogan) but I think the willingness is also just a burning desire to grow up and change even if it means facing painful stuff. I think you have hit upon the largest part of the "it" we mean when we say "I hope he gets it" this time (in reference to our fellows or somone trying the program) or also in the quote from how it works.




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Step 2 is about where willingness comes inot play. We can make a start just by being willing to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restor us to sanity. (God could and would if he were sought.)

I agree PC, that the steps can individually have there own spiritual experience attached. After all they are a spiritual journey. The book talks about a very great effect sometimes being felt at step three (though I wasn't aware of it) and it further talks about beginning to have a spiritual experience at step 5 -which I did experience. Each step seemed to prepare me for the next, though step three lead me in two directions. First to step four, for cleaning up the past, but also to 10, 11 and 12 for living sober today. While it was essential to clean up the past, it was equally important to begin living in these disciplines from the beginning, in order to stay sober today.

God bless,
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