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This is my 3rd time coming back to this board. Somehow, I guess I just keep getting myself stuck in the same messes, over and over. A lot has changed in the last few years. When I first started writing, I was new to Boston, in my early 20s, on my own, meeting new people, dating new people, and JUST starting to struggling with alcohol. Despite having an alcoholic father (sober his whole life until the disease took a hard grip on him....lead him down one of the worst roads i've EVER seen anyone on....and eventually took his life, last year), i never thought alcohol would affect me or cause problems for me in my life.

WRONG.

I'm now pushing 30, recently married, ready to move to another state, and i feel as lost as ever. Over the last four years, i've been watching my problem get worse and worse. At first, I didn't think i even HAD a problem. I denied it...pushed it away....though "I'm 25 and i'm just having fun, that's all!" but when I met the love of my life, who i'm now married to, she made me realize that i wasn't just "drinking too much" - i turned into a different person....i slurred my words....i became unresponsive.....i could be mean, emotional, or basically just a big wet noodle, lifeless and embarrassing.  I've tried so many times to "be better with alcohol," and....honestly - sometimes, i'm totally fine.  Sometimes, things are great! And when i'm responsible (eat a big meal before going out....drink water between drinks....), i'll have FANTASTIC nights with my friends and my wife.  Other times though....it just happens again. I find myself pouring heavy drinks, and waiting for the buzz, and then i'm just stuck back in the same state that i was, 1 month prior, where my wife cries to me that it's hurting her and that she doesn't understand why i can't just be responsible and drink like everyone else.

I sit here today, with remorse, guilt, shame, and like this is the ONLY part of me that is ruining my life and my relationship.

I can't help but ask the questions :

*If some nights can be great (despite some nights being bad) - is this a sign that i CAN get help for myself and be a normal drinker if i just tried? *Do i just have a "Drinking problem" that can be helped with possible therapy or journaling, or just simply being more aware of myself and drinking alcohol? I don't "NEED" alcohol in my life - i could go months without drinking and not be down in the dumps....so does that mean anything?

* If this keeps happening.....is that a red flag that i'm NOT in control?

*After so many  mistakes....and so many times i've disappointed my wife....how can i convince her to believe me that i WANT to fix things and i feel TERRIBLE for hurting her? What words can heal her heart and make her know that i'm going to try harder for myself and for us.

I know this message is all over the place, but i just need some help. I need some comforting words from someone who may have been in this situation before. I don't know if i should just stop drinking all together (because, as i said - hmm, do i just have issues with alcohol? Am i an alcoholic? can i try various things to help mend the situation?) or if i can control things if i REALLY put my mind and my heart and soul into it?

I just feel so awful.



-- Edited by ElectricTwist on Wednesday 9th of October 2013 08:41:28 AM

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Welcome back ET, ... ... ...

You made no mention of AA in your post ... Do you have a BB and the 12 & 12 ??? ... read them ... ... ... If you have any doubts as to whether or not you're alcoholic, then I am posting a test that may assist you ... ... ... Get yourself to some meetings ASAP and listen to what you can identify with ...

We think we are hiding our problem with alcohol from everyone most of the time ... and if they start asking about our drinking, then it usually points to us starting to be 'out-of-control' ... I seriously doubt that you can just quit drinking on your own ... most of us here have tried and couldn't do it, not for very long anyways ... ... ... Alcoholism gets progressively worse, never better ... and it IS fatal ... so if you feel you may have a problem with alcohol, don't sit around on your tush, go get help by going to some meetings ... we don't bite ... well, most of us don't anyways, but there are some I'd keep my distance from ... LOL, just kidding ...

Here's a test for you if you're interested:


SUGGESTED TEST QUESTIONS

1. Do you require a drink the next morning?

2. Do you prefer to drink alone?

3. Do you lose time from work due to drinking?

4. Is your drinking harming your family in any way?

5. Do you crave a drink at a definite time daily?

6. Do you get the inner shakes unless you continue drinking?

7. Has drinking made you irritable?

8. Does drinking make you careless of your family's welfare?

9. Have you harmed your husband or wife since drinking?

10. Has drinking changed your personality?

11. Does drinking cause you bodily complaints?

12. Does drinking make you restless?

13. Does drinking cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?

14. Has drinking made you more impulsive?

15. Have you less self-control since drinking?

16. Has your initiative decreased since drinking?

17. Has your ambition decreased since drinking?

18. Do you lack perseverance in pursuing a goal since drinking?

19. Do you drink to obtain social ease? (In shy, timid, self-conscious individuals.)

20. Do you drink for self-encouragement? (In persons with feelings of inferiority.)

21. Do you drink to relieve marked feeling of inadequacy?

22. Has your sexual potency suffered since drinking?

23. Do you show marked dislikes and hatreds since drinking?

24. Has your jealousy, in general, increased since drinking?

25. Do you show marked moodiness as a result of drinking?

26. Has your efficiency decreased since drinking?

27. Has your drinking made you more sensitive?

28. Are you harder to get along with since drinking?

29. Do you turn to an inferior environment since drinking?

30. Is drinking endangering your health?

31. Is drinking affecting your peace of mind?

32. Is drinking making your home life unhappy?

33. Is drinking jeopardizing your business?

34. Is drinking clouding your reputation?

35. Is drinking disturbing the harmony of your life?

If you have answered YES to any one of the Test Questions, there is a definite warning that you may be alcoholic. If you have answered YES to any two of the Test Questions the chances are that you are an alcoholic.

If you answered YES to three or more of the Test Questions you are definitely AN ALCOHOLIC.

NOTE: The Test Questions are not A.A. Questions but are the guide used by Johns Hopkins University Hospital in deciding whether a patient is alcoholic or not.

In addition to the Test Questions we in A.A. would ask even more questions. Here are a few-

36. Have you ever had a complete loss of memory while, or after drinking?

37. Have you ever felt, when or after drinking, an inability to concentrate?

38. Have your ever felt "remorse" after drinking?

39. Has a physician ever treated you for drinking?

40. Have you ever been hospitalized for drinking?

Many other questions could be asked but the foregoing are sufficient for the purpose of this instruction.

 

P.S.   I noticed you already answered 'yes' to the remorse one !!! ... are there anymore to answer 'yes' to ???



-- Edited by Pythonpappy on Wednesday 9th of October 2013 03:02:41 PM

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Hiya!

 

I was sitting here, just reading along, no intention of writing this morning.  But....  What you have to say and ask touches a cord for me.  I know this thinking.  I know it because I lived it as well.  My answers may not be yours, but I am going to place my responses into your questions and we can see if they fit for you and anyone else reading.

 

*If some nights can be great (despite some nights being bad) - is this a sign that i CAN get help for myself and be a normal drinker if i just tried?

Define normal.  I can't.  I don't know what normal is.  When I drink I can't control it.  Its that simple.  My normal is to keep trying to feel better, let the buzz carry me away to unconsciousness and no cares of the others I've hurt and/or disrespected.  I know I can get help, but there is no normal to aspire to.  I am trying sobriety instead, a new normal.  Without the lack of control.

 

*Do i just have a "Drinking problem" that can be helped with possible therapy or journaling, or just simply being more aware of myself and drinking alcohol?


Any type of addiction (food, relationship fixing, drugs, work) is in response to something else.  Yes, WE WANT to feel better.  But how we define BETTER is the question.  I feel good eating, I feel good drinking, I feel good overworking, I feel great helping someone else....  but when I use any one of those to bandage my own issues,  I end up overusing them, and I drank too much, worked too much, ate too much.  I do have to be more aware of my emotional state, how I am caring for myself, and I do both these things by journaling.  I have done therapy when I needed someone else to ask me the hard questions I was unwilling to ask myself.  It worked.  Do you just have a Drinking Problem?  I can't answer that for you.  But for me, I had a drinking problem as the symptom of other problems in my life.

 

I don't "NEED" alcohol in my life - i could go months without drinking and not be down in the dumps....so does that mean anything?

 

I don't "need" alcohol in my life either.  I can be sober.  But when I open a bottle and begin drinking, I don't stop.  Thats a problem.  

 

* If this keeps happening.....is that a red flag that i'm NOT in control?

 

Yup.  My experience says...  Yup.  When I open the bottle I want to feel different, medicate, wipe away, and drown in it.  I can not control my drinking.  So I do not allow myself the choice.  

 

*After so many  mistakes....and so many times i've disappointed my wife....how can i convince her to believe me that i WANT to fix things and i feel TERRIBLE for hurting her?

 

My wife knows her truth.  OUR recovery is two-fold.  She acknowledges the co-dependant side, trying to fix me.  I acknowledge the addict side, trying to fix me.  Together we realized how artful of a lier I am. I can tell stories forever.  But she looks beyond the stories.  Together we know by my actions when I am lieing.  My actions speak louder than my words.  You cannot convince her of an untruth.  But you can live your life making amends and changing who you are.  You cannot fix things, just let your actions speak your new truth as you change who you are into the person you want to be.

 

*What words can heal her heart and make her know that i'm going to try harder for myself and for us.

 

Same answer as the last question.  No WORDS can hide or repair our lies.  I have to make my actions my proof.  I can tell her, include her in my recovery if I wish, but words alone can never repair or cover the pain.  Time and honesty and living my recovery, my new choice, are the only way.  

 

*I know this message is all over the place, but i just need some help. I need some comforting words from someone who may have been in this situation before. I don't know if i should just stop drinking all together (because, as i said - hmm, do i just have issues with alcohol? Am i an alcoholic? can i try various things to help mend the situation?) or if i can control things if i REALLY put my mind and my heart and soul into it?

 

Alcoholism is merely a symptom.  A life destroying symptom of something else that isn't right, in my life.  I can not tell you, "YOU are an alcoholic".  That is your choice to make.  If you do not like who you are when using alcohol then you can choose to change.  Change does happen when you put your whole being into it.  And that idea of control?  My experience is, I can't control my alcoholic.  So I don't try to CONTROL him.  I just don't give him the opportunity.  For me...there is no moderation.  Sorry I have no words of comfort.  I have words of understanding.  You are not alone in the questions you ask.  Welcome to the group, again.  Keep posting here, return every time you have a question.  Seek other sources of information about addiction.  Educate yourself about the dis-ease we all know.   

 

I am a work in progress.  I may be a husband, a father, and a middle aged adult, but that doesn't mean I have any control over my actions when I drink.  I don't like who I am when I drink.  I love the feeling of being drunk.  There-in lies the problem.  So I am putting more weight on the things I don't like about being drunk and trying to discover more of the things I love when not being drunk.  I am changing, a little bit at a time.  You can too.

 

Craig

 



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Good morning and Welcome. I can relate to your post on so many different levels. I'm not real handy with a computer, can't post links, but a couple things you can goggle that might help you are 1) the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous 2) questionnaire Am I an Alcoholic. If you don't want to do that, just keep checking back here, someone will post the links. I had so many of the same questions and found the answers in the stuff I mentioned. You are the only one who can decide if you are an alcoholic or not, the questionnaire helps with that. The Big Book talks about who we become , what lengths we go to to prove to ourselves and our loved ones that we don't have a problem, and most importantly what we need to do if we decide we want to change. I would also suggest a real live AA meeting. You can goggle a schedule, pick one that says "O" , meaning open. They are for anyone wanting to know about alcoholism. When they ask if anyone's attending their first meeting, raise your hand, introduce yourself, then just listen. You will probably hear your story, more than once. And keep coming back here and posting. We need you to help us stay sober. Peace.

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Wow - craig - LOOK AT YOU in just a couple short months!! Amazing!

Excellent posts here guys!

Welcome back OP.

I don't know anyone who isn't an alcoholic who spends a lot of time pondering alcoholism or AA other than my brother who is an ACOA (adult child of an alcoholic... like me of course) and is a doctor and researcher of addiction. Other than that, pretty much only alcoholics, or those affected by alcoholism do this from what I see. You're for sure an ACOA - so working the steps and getting into a recovery group would be great for you if you're an alcoholic or not. There are many who come into ACOA and find out by chance that their drinking isn't what they like and look more closely at it well after they have been in recovery for ACOA. So get on board with ACOA if you're unsure about this. Start getting support in some way ASAP because really - you deserve the very best in life - and so do your loved ones. Give YOU a fair shot at a healthy life alcoholic or not. Let the steps and the program guide you into discovering if alcoholism is one of the symptoms you have. There is a 'laundry list' of symptoms. There is a very lovely group of ACOA's here on MIP that has many AA's, and some people just like you - who are just looking further into their drinking too. One who just this week identified as an alcoholic after much time in recovery for ACOA... so you would have someone there to talk to as well who's life hasn't really been ruined or had any consequences or even had to get to the point of drinking every day or all the time - just recognized it and is aware now that it's not normal and has a solution for it in the 12 steps and the program.

I would say - find a meeting in your area and reach out for help. No shame in trying to live a better life. It's the most courageous thing you'll likely ever do : ) So good luck!



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The Laundry List 14 Traits of an Adult Child of an Alcoholic:

We became isolated and afraid of people and authority figures.

We became approval seekers and lost our identity in the process.

We are frightened of angry people and any personal criticism.

We either become alcoholics, marry them or both, or find another compulsive personality such as a workaholic to fulfill our sick abandonment needs.

We live life from the viewpoint of victims and we are attracted by that weakness in our love and friendship relationships.

We have an overdeveloped sense of responsibility and it is easier for us to be concerned with others rather than ourselves; this enables us not to look too closely at our own faults, etc.

We get guilt feelings when we stand up for ourselves instead of giving in to others.

We became addicted to excitement.

We confuse love and pity and tend to "love" people we can "pity" and "rescue."

We have "stuffed" our feelings from our traumatic childhoods and have lost the ability to feel or express our feelings because it hurts so much (Denial).

We judge ourselves harshly and have a very low sense of self-esteem.

We are dependent personalities who are terrified of abandonment and will do anything to hold on to a relationship in order not to experience painful abandonment feelings, which we received from living with sick people who were never there emotionally for us.

Alcoholism is a family disease; and we became para-alcoholics and took on the characteristics of that disease even though we did not pick up the drink.

Para-alcoholics are reactors rather than actors.


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A Big Welcome back from me too ET . YES , you have 'just been denying it'.

D , E , N , I , A , L  = Don't Ever Notice I Am Lying - To MYSELF . ET , that IS what we do .

Rip OurSelf off , Con ourself , yes we try to justify it all . Another state , look at the state(your life)

is in , yes you will take Yourself with You . Looking at what you have written  . You HAVE to STOP NOW .

I am a Truck Driver  not a Dr , I can see , IF you keep going on drinking from here ALL the things you hear of .

All the things that happened to Your Dad , WILL happen to You . But if you join us in AA , there is a chance your life ,

will be better , I believe your Higher Power is offering you that chance now . TAKE IT & hang on to it with All your life .

ET , I was told those Same words over 27 years ago . From Day one my Life got better One Day at a time . I had promised

to drink myself to death by the time I reached 40 , I was 37 . I am now 64 , just back from 10 days in th States , did 6 meetings ,

another Alkie was also at th venue , with all th drinking at a Navy reunion , I had made sure I had 'plan a in place' it worked great .

ET , you Need some 'tuff love' from Yourself  , not some BS . Join us And Walk the path to Freedom . You Won't regret it .



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I think that every single person on this board can probably tell you how they tried to control their drinking, were okay sometimes. Many of us have even been able to have substantial periods of sobriety before picking up the drink again. It's a progressive disease, though, and it does get worse. I can't say anything better than the people who have posted above me. Good luck to you.

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Aloha ET and welcome back to the board.  You've gotten some great feedback from MIP family and I want to ask did you follow thru on what Danielle wrote on your white board back when?  Chance are things with you would be better now had you done so.  Following thru with suggestions from others who had worn my shoes then saved my life and sis you just watched what this disease did to your Dad.   Sad with you for that especially since he had so much sober time before.  There are so many phenominoms in alcoholiism which result in it being called "cunning, powerful and baffling".  Death is one of the consequences of alcoholism unarrested.  Your wife is being affected by it as you are because alcoholism touches and affects everyone it comes into contact with.  She needs to be around recovering friend, family, and associates of alcoholic or the disease will take her down and hurt her without the anesthesia we drank.  I'm a recovering alcoholic and also a member of the Al-Anon Family Groups...Like you I was born inside of this life threatening disease and it almost took my life like it's taken your father's.

Read your post as if you were one of us or someone different and see what you think about what the writer is saying.  When I stopped I stopped doing my own thinking about if I was or if I wasn't.  I used the thoughts, feelings, beliefs and behaviors of others in the program.  Without them I would have never known you or MIP.   I had to get a power greater than Jerry F...much greater cause Jerry F hadn't a clue how to stop and turn things around for himself.

Go read your white board again and glad to have you back.  ((((hugs)))) smile



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Hi ElectricTwist. I was the same. Some nights were ok. Others were a complete gong show. It stopped me from getting help for a long time because I thought if I tried harder I could find the magic formula and control my drinking. Sometimes I would think that was happening, then I'd have a big horrible blackout again.

What was unmanageable about this: It was like playing Russian Roulette. I could never predict what the night would turn out like. And through it all, I was obsessed. Even if I had a 'good night', I would be obsessed about how much I was drinking. My husband didn't like going anywhere with me because I was embarrassing and horrible and a handful. My confidence was in the toilet because I thought I was a bad person. I knew that alcohol was in charge of me, I wasn't in charge of alcohol, even though sometimes I thought I was smart enough for it.

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Welcome back...Reading your story was like reading my story...But my alcoholism cost me my wife...And a lot more. I read the Big Book in rehab...Studied it. It not only described me....It offered me a solution...A little late to save my marriage...But maybe not for you. Here's a taste.

Chapter 3

 

MORE ABOUT ALCOHOLISM

 

Most of us have been unwilling to admit we were real alcoholics. No person likes to think he is bodily and mentally different from his fellows. Therefore, it is not surprising that our drinking careers have been characterized by countless vain attempts to prove we could drink like other people. The idea that somehow, someday he will control and enjoy his drinking is the great obsession of every abnormal drinker. The persistence of this illusion is astonishing. Many pursue it into the gates of insanity or death.

We learned that we had to fully concede to our innermost selves that we were alcoholics. This is the first step in recovery. The delusion that we are like other people, or presently may be, has to be smashed.

We alcoholics are men and women who have lost the ability to control our drinking. We know that no real alcoholic ever recovers control. All of us felt at times that we were regaining control, but such intervals - usually brief - were inevitably followed by still less control, which led in time to pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization. We are convinced to a man that alcoholics of our type are in the grip of a progressive illness. Over any considerable period we get worse, never better.

BB Pg 30

Pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization...Boy did that hit a nerve. I was completely hopeless. Good news....There is a solution.

 



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That's good ET....I can only share my own experience with you on this one...I'm sure others will agree. If you are interested in the solution AA has to offer...I had to come to grips that this is an ACTION program...The action had to come from me. I committed to this new life I have now...I started with going to 90 meetings in 90 days...A suggestion that I followed....I studied the directions...The Doctor's Opinion and the first 103 pages of the Big Book...I asked someone who had done it and lived it (sponsor) to help me through the steps...And I put in the time and effort to thoroughly do them...The best that I could. Was I willing to go to any lengths?.....I was willing to do ANYTHING. Rarely have we seen a person fail that has thoroughly followed our path....I haven't seen anyone yet that failed that followed the directions...And put in the action required.



-- Edited by Stepchild on Thursday 10th of October 2013 10:22:15 AM

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welcome back. My only advise is that people who aren't alcoholics don't think about alcohol the way you do. If you're making statements that you need to "control" your drinking it is already out of control. Get back to meetings, and good luck.

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I can't even begin to thank every single one of you for all of your heart felt advice, comments, and for sharing your stories. For that, I am truly grateful. As I had before, I once again find myself heavily questioning my drinking and my life choices....And like all of you have mentioned to me.....if i have this much questioning (especially as a child with an alcoholic father, who died because of the disease) and carry this much guilt and the fear that it might happen again (i might hurt my wife, i might embarrass myself, i might have to call in sick to work hungover, i might disappoint a friend).....i don't know how much longer i can or should continue taking "Risks" that i will "get things under control." Reading this board and the stories of others has already helped tremendously, and the fear that my wife has shared with me is surely fire under my feet to do SOMETHING about this.

I truly can't thank you enough. I will keep coming back. And I will keep reading.
Love and hugs.

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Stepchild is right ... ... ... if we put 1/2 as much effort into working the 12 steps as we did to get that next drink, we will succeed in staying sober ... ... ... AND, steps 6 & 7 deal with getting rid of the guilt and remorse we had ... Work the steps with a sponsor and you'll become a different person, the person you wish you were ... ... ...

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ET welcome home!

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Okay, maybe I'm just tired, but Dean ... that was FUNNY ... ... ... LMAO ... (wish I'd thought of it 1st) ... 



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How would I describe my alcoholic experiences? Heart breaking comes to mind. I experienced more setbacks than anyone should have to endure. You would think that after 20+ years of alcoholic drunkenness one would finally say enough already. Well, it didn't happen. I endured 5 more years just for good measure. Then the unexpected happened, I almost died. After that, drinking seemed so insignificant. I finally experienced 'death' like never before, and it wasn't too long afterwards that I finally said, enough. That was 12+ years ago.

Fast forward 12 years later and who you see today is someone completely different. But the cure didn't come overnight. I had to work hard on becoming a better person before sobriety became my 'only' priority, and even then it was a stretch. In the end, though, I wouldn't change a thing. I no longer question my past, like I did years earlier, mostly because of what I learned. After all was said and done those questions lead me nowhere. I took a good look around and decided life is too precious to go on this way. I finally saw the light at the end of that very long tunnel. What came next was nothing short of amazing. I finally experienced sobriety like never before. But it had to start somewhere. It started with a desire and 12 years later that desire has now been replaced by trust. By trusting others, I was given the tools that would ultimately change my life. It was my way of letting go.

As far as becoming a 'normal' drinker, well, it really depends on what you consider normal. For me, it means knowing your limits, or as others would say knowing when to quit. That's something I could never do. So from that standpoint I would have to say 'no', I'm not the 'A' 'typical' drinker type. I'm wired differently, I guess -not to say that's wrong or anything. I just don't know how to quit, that's all. So why even go there. Besides, it's more fun being sober. I hope you agree. Welcome back...



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Great post Mr David!

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Agreed.

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Ditto !!! ... Good one David, very much like my story !!!



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High fives and hand shakes all around and a big hug and kiss on the cheek for you ET. You're going to be a great addition here... keep us posted on your progress : )

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