I agree with you Pablomoses, but I would say that sobriety is a requirement for me to allow faith to be a part of my life now(same thing you said) ... and I would clarify that a 'higher power', God for me, is necessary for faith to have any meaning what-so-ever ... ... ... Faith is crucial, and it matters, I think, just what or who you have faith in ... ... ... just a thought!

Hey Angell, ... you have me as a friend ... and you work here on the MIP board enough to help others in recovery ... the 'work' above doesn't necessarily mean 'income' type work ... and I think everyone here is your friend, which means you have quite a few friends ... as you said, it's a matter of perspective !!! ...       

Pappy, you are absolutely correct. I had fixated on outside work but you have reminded me that there is much greater work that can be done.

And to both you and Jerry, thank you and I will gratefully accept your friendship as well as extend mine. What I meant though... even here, we tell folks that while MIP is a wonderful resource, face to face meetings are imperative. Face to face though, if pressed to come up with the last time I had company or went to someone else's home for purely social reasons - or went to coffee, or... It is probably twenty-five years or more. I like my own company, that of my higher power, my wife, my father, my children... I don't get enough time with these...there's no time to develop outside relationships. Even now, I am thinking, posting, sharing...but my wife is home in ten minutes from work and I can't wait. :)