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I'm 60 days sober and I'm going through hell. My non AH wife thinks I'm being controlling when I'm not. She tells me how the past inside her head is controlling her. I constantly tell her she can do whatever she wants and come and go as she pleases cause I'm not about controlling her. She has been trying to go to Al anon. Recently all her childhood trauma has come back to haunt her. She sees her abuser in my eyes even though I never physically or sexually abused her when I was drinking. It's like I walk on eggshells since there is nothing I can do right since normal things peo

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People do cause her triggers to go off. To make things worse she states I'm the problem not her. I tell her the past before me are her issues not mine but I seem to be suffering for it anyhow. I have a sponser working a 5th step pray a great deal get to meetings everyday and call people constantly. I'm able to let it go and accept it most of the time. However coming home to this constant negativity is wearing me down big time. She is also jealous of me getting better and my program. She tells me it was better when I was drinking for her since she didnt have to think about any of her shit. I'm doing everything right and it seems not enough. When does the spouse decide to own up to her shit and get help. I don't know how much more suffering I can take.

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Hey Ron, ...

Those of us with families here went through some really tough early sober times with family ... One reason is because we went to great depths to destroy every ounce of trust they had in us ... and now we're changing and they are not sure what it is they should expect ... they experience a type of 'fear of the unknown' ... it takes a long time to regain the trust of those we hurt ... the best I can suggest is to keep working your program above all else ... and when the time is right, you'll be able to do for family without them having to fear your recovery is only temporary ...

Just keep in your mind that there's no problem you're going through right now that a drink or drug won't make worse ... Sobriety is my top priority at the start of each and every day ...



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I really hate to even mention this, but it may help to separate for a short while to let things try to stabilize ... I hope some others chime in on this because it's important that you stay sober ... if there exists a problem that may lead you to drink out of anger or frustration, then I think it best to change the environment you're in ... at least for the short term ... just don't drink over this or I promise you, you'll be facing much more serious problems than you have now ...



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IDK if that's a option. She doesn't work and is in no condition to work she says. I can't afford to support two homes. I know drinking is not a option. She asked me last night what would happen if I relapsed. I told her a head full of AA and booze don't and if she thinks she is in he'll now she hasn't seen nothing yet.

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I don't think I have a drink left in me way too depressed it would probrably lead me to suicide which is not a option and wouldn't solve anything except hurting more people around me. Which I don't want to do anymore. In just beaten and tired of the emotional hangover day after day.

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Booze and AA don't mix I meant and that drinking again would be hell.

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What does your sponsor suggest ??? ... it's rare, but sometimes you come across a sponsor that will sit down with family members to help them understand what it is you're going through ... and sometimes it helps ... Has your wife read the chapter to wives in the Big Book ??? ... that may help give her some perspective ... other than that, finding a room to rent for a couple weeks might help ... certainly more so than taking a drink over this ...

You are early in sobriety and it is of the utmost importance that you not return to the bottle and destroy everything you've learned and accomplished so far ... I'm glad you sound as though you are strong enough to not take a drink ... prayer will not hurt a thing ... try having a talk with your higher power ... 




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My sponser suggests to just let her go but not leave her. Hard to do when u are in the middle. He states just work on you and things will get better and it takes times. Says she identifies the abuser in me cause I'm closest to her. The funny thing is she has wanted and trying to get me sober for yrs now that I have things are worse not better.

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Yes she's read big book to the wives and has Al anon literature doesn't make sense to her none of it does she is totally confused.

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TIME ... It takes time ... just try to bare with it ... Try to explain that you are 'a work in progress' ... that what she sees now is NOT the finished product ... that whatever abuse she thinks you're dishing out is one of the things that you're working on ... turn it around, tell her if she can't use patience with you, then she's free to leave ... unabused ... above all don't draw out any argument ...



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Some people are like my old TV, it had a knob marked 'brightness', I tried to turn it up, ... yeah, it didn't work either, LOL ... some people seem to WANT to stay in the dark ... some people choose not to even try to understand ... some people enjoy misery and/or want others to feel sorry for them ... go figure ...



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I know that in my early sobriety my wife was upset with me. Upset that I would no longer be the whipping boy, who I was while practicing my alcoholism. A drunk is much easier to control than a sober person. I consider myself fortunate that we remained married and are thriving. We both needed to come to terms with my sobriety. We did this on our own. Keep your sobriety going no matter what. If she decides to be positive you can go through this miracle together. If she continues to be negative, only you can decide if life with her is better than life without her.
I'll pray for you and yours tonight.
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I don't know if she controlled me when I was drunk or not. I do know she came and went as she pleased when I was drinking and didnt care so I could drink without her nagging. But somehow now it's a issue I want to know where she's going when she goes out because I care not because I control. She always told me before when drinking and I didn't even ask so nothing has changed what is the issue? She did say today it was better when I was drinking because I would come in the bedroom and pass out or we would have sex and I would pass out. That just me being around makes her uneasy. I don't get it does she want me to treat her like shit like in the past? I know she had not at all come to terms with my sobriety is there something I can do or say

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It sounds like she was not and is not ready for an adult relationship as equals. Having you in a child-like state was less threatening. That is her issue though and not yours. It may or may not wind up leading to a separation. That will come to you via your HP later on. You continue to treat her with respect and kindness as much as you can. Don't take abuse from her though. Focus on your sobriety and give it more time.

It does sound like she is having a PTSD/paranoid sort of breakdown. I don't know what you insurance is, but it would not hurt to find the local mental health services provider and search therapy out (not marital but therapy for her). You can probably find a therapist that works on a grant or sliding scale there or at a women's service organization. It will really be up to her to do the follow up though. Otherwise she will say you are trying to "control" her into therapy.

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She is seeking help from a therapist first appt was Sat. She's never got help for this before. She has to D/C from the other therapist who she focused nothing on but my drinking for last 3 yrs I'm doing much better this morning talked to my therapist also. Thx for your help

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Sounds like it's time for you and her to sit down and have a very long talk ... explain to her that sobriety is the number 1 priority in your life right now and that it would help if she supported you in that endeavor ... if she expects it to all be 'peaches and cream' then she needs to be told it's a rocky road for a while ... if she fears you for some reason, you need to know why and take action to quell that idea unless there's something to it ...

Ya'll need to talk it out ... discuss all the issues here ... it sounds like ya'll don't even know each other ... and don't start laying blame on each other for the way things are, just recognize where the snags are and come up with a plan to remove them ... and I suggest you keep your higher power in mind while doing this ...so as to have a 'long term' solution ...



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Glad things are going better today HJF. Stick around here, go to meetings, and your HP will guide you through it all. Your sobriety is your main concern, your sobriety is your life's #1 goal today. The rewards will be amazing, but, they will occur one day at a time. Every 24 hours you don't drink and stay in the solution will add up. Sometimes it's hard for significant to hers in our life to realize that a change had to happen in our lives. Had a change not occurred our lives may have ended. I will pray for you and yours as I pray for me and mine!! 2013 can be a great year for both of you, but, she has to realize that you had to change to live.

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I don't know, I think I might disagree with Pappy here. I don't know if she's ready for a long talk yet. I would wait on that one... I had to wait for my husband to hit a bottom. You will be able to tell when that happens pretty easily. You will remain calm, and they will increasingly act out, and finally just shut down in anger or sadness. Just like we have a bottom, they do as co-dependents too (I believe... but mostly just cuz it's been my experience). Just like how it was important for me to hit a sufficient bottom, it was equally as important for my husband to. And for me to try and fix him, would have just prolonged it from happening. Instead, I just remained quiet. I gave him space. I did not react when he flew off the handle. I did however calmly say it was not okay with me and okay that our children saw certain things in him. That I would protect them and myself if I had to. I did this in a very calm and loving way as to continue working my program, and remain in a state of fighting no one or anything.

The bottom he hit was very intense for him and he did shut down completely for a few days - to which I was patient and left him alone, offering hugs and let him know that my ear was available if he was in need or wanted to use it.

When he finally did break down and open up to me about how he was feeling - I think after I mentioned a few days prior - by the grace of my HP these words struck him: "When you bury your feelings, you bury them alive".

Finally we did have that long talk.

A month or so later he tried alanon. He has been doing morning readings, and going to some meetings now for a couple months. He's getting increasingly more involved, and healthy. Our relationship is new and wonderful, and full of hope and love. There is a future for us now, and I'm looking forward to it thanks to our program - one we both work on individually, but now can talk to about - and even joke about - together.

It's funny now, because we'll kid each other with program lingo - and we can both laugh and still be better at the same time. It's amazing. It's possible for you, but also I hear not likely. We don't recover at the same rate, and it's been up and down and discouraging more than not, but patience, love, kindness and persistence in working your own program can inspire others around you to want to work one too. So I will pray for you. My husband told me last night that at his first meeting, when it came to his turn, that he said "I see the enlightenment in my wife, and I'm here to see if I can find that too." I was overjoyed for our HP's work here.

Please keep posting and keep coming back : )

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I suggest keeping boundaries, being kind, and keeping your side of the street clean.

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