Oh wonderful Tom - glad to hear it! I am sending well wishes, and EXPECTING you to hit Amazon.com for some probiotics to replenish the needed supply of good bac. and flora the antibiotics kill. Very important next step in our household.
1. We admitted we were powerless over antibiotics that our guts had become unmanageable. 2. Came to believe that a Probiotic greater than ourselves could restore our guts to sanity. 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of Probiotics as we understand them. http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/health-benefits-of-probiotics/ 4. Made a searching and fearless monetary inventory of our wallets. 5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to amazon.com the exact nature of our wrongs. 6. Were entirely ready to have probiotics remove all these defects of character. 7. Humbly asked probiotics to remove our shortcomings. http://www.amazon.com/Probiotics-18-Intestinal-Applied-Nutrition/dp/B006OH9S6K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1350924313&sr=8-2&keywords=probiotics+18 8. Made a list of all flora and bacteria we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all. 9. Made direct amends to our gut wherever possible, except when to do so would injure it or others. 10. Continued to take probiotics and when we were out promptly replenished it. 11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God, as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out. 12. Having had a tummy flora awakening as the result of these Steps, we tried to carry this message to antibiotic users, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
I have entirely waaay too much time on my hands. LOL - Love ya - hope you feel better and I'm signing off! LOL
-- Edited by justadrunk on Monday 22nd of October 2012 11:48:35 AM
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Thanks for everything. Peace and Love on your journey.
So anyway, I was off and on that hell-ish stuff for the better part of 3 weeks. I have been off 6 days and feel weak but overall good. I talked with St Pete Dean by PM and he suggested 1/2 doses so I went to 1/4 doses, and I seem to have my "happy" back. It is incredable to me that our pre-disposition to "Party Mode" makes it hard to simply take the drugs prescribed without "looking over your shoulder". The bone seems to be mending and the infection seems to be behaving itself. 2 1/2 days of antibiotics are all thats left.
Tom
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Way to go Tom,,as you are aware our bodies don't know the difference between drugs we use to get high or to heal us.BUT OUR MINDS DO!!Its a pain(literally) when all our parts dont work like our Higher Power originally put in place....Peace brother......
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Hydrocodone doesn't have the same mental pull as oxycodone - at least not for me. I guess that's why one is a schedule 3 and one is schedule 2.
I stopped taking the oxy back in the spring, which was hard to do. Still taking the hydro in evenings for my back. Not sure what the next move is going to be. Alternatives are injections, or perhaps accupuncture. Not a good time to think about the injections (steroids) after the scandal in the news about people getting menengitis from the stuff. No thanks!
My Dr. thinks I probably have a nerve being impinged upon, that seems to be stimulated by the pressure of a full stomach since it seems to flare up when I eat.
The hydrocodone (7.5, 1 or 2 in the evening depending on how late I stay up) is working. It has been pretty stable for several months now... hasn't gotten worse, but hasn't gotten better either. Both me and doc are inclined to leave well enough alone but then again, he knows what I am. I'm mainly concerned about gaining a tolerance for the stuff and having to take more of it to get relief. I know people who have taken it for years and it still works, but - they're not alcoholics.
I always did take a lot of aspirin or ibuprofen for various aches and pains. Never seemed to cause me any problems - no ulcers or anything. When I had the surgery(s) and other stuff back in Jan-Feb I had to stop taking aspirin and ibu for several weeks, which was really annoying. Then I had the really bad pain from the other complications, and I was on some heavy duty stuff in the hospital and oxycodone (percocet) for a few weeks after, since then just the hydrocodone (as vicoprofen).
My wife has much worse back pain than me, and she can barely tolerate half of a vicodin. I feel sorry for her in that she can't really get much relief but at the same time, I guess she doesn't have to worry about ever being addicted. My mom's the same way - she would rather put up with the pain than the side effects of the narc. Me, I don't much like pain. I do have a lot of people watching over me including a doctor who knows what I am....
Oh wonderful Tom - glad to hear it! I am sending well wishes, and EXPECTING you to hit Amazon.com for some probiotics to replenish the needed supply of good bac. and flora the antibiotics kill. Very important next step in our household.
1. We admitted we were powerless over antibiotics that our guts had become unmanageable. 2. Came to believe that a Probiotic greater than ourselves could restore our guts to sanity. 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of Probiotics as we understand them. http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/health-benefits-of-probiotics/ 4. Made a searching and fearless monetary inventory of our wallets. 5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to amazon.com the exact nature of our wrongs. 6. Were entirely ready to have probiotics remove all these defects of character. 7. Humbly asked probiotics to remove our shortcomings. http://www.amazon.com/Probiotics-18-Intestinal-Applied-Nutrition/dp/B006OH9S6K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1350924313&sr=8-2&keywords=probiotics+18 8. Made a list of all flora and bacteria we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all. 9. Made direct amends to our gut wherever possible, except when to do so would injure it or others. 10. Continued to take probiotics and when we were out promptly replenished it. 11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God, as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out. 12. Having had a tummy flora awakening as the result of these Steps, we tried to carry this message to antibiotic users, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
I have entirely waaay too much time on my hands. LOL - Love ya - hope you feel better and I'm signing off! LOL
-- Edited by justadrunk on Monday 22nd of October 2012 11:48:35 AM
LOL! I have been taking the Greek yogurt Wren suggested, so I guess the probiotic is not a far stretch!
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Hydrocodone doesn't have the same mental pull as oxycodone - at least not for me. I guess that's why one is a schedule 3 and one is schedule 2.
I stopped taking the oxy back in the spring, which was hard to do. Still taking the hydro in evenings for my back. Not sure what the next move is going to be. Alternatives are injections, or perhaps accupuncture. Not a good time to think about the injections (steroids) after the scandal in the news about people getting menengitis from the stuff. No thanks!
My Dr. thinks I probably have a nerve being impinged upon, that seems to be stimulated by the pressure of a full stomach since it seems to flare up when I eat.
The hydrocodone (7.5, 1 or 2 in the evening depending on how late I stay up) is working. It has been pretty stable for several months now... hasn't gotten worse, but hasn't gotten better either. Both me and doc are inclined to leave well enough alone but then again, he knows what I am. I'm mainly concerned about gaining a tolerance for the stuff and having to take more of it to get relief. I know people who have taken it for years and it still works, but - they're not alcoholics.
I always did take a lot of aspirin or ibuprofen for various aches and pains. Never seemed to cause me any problems - no ulcers or anything. When I had the surgery(s) and other stuff back in Jan-Feb I had to stop taking aspirin and ibu for several weeks, which was really annoying. Then I had the really bad pain from the other complications, and I was on some heavy duty stuff in the hospital and oxycodone (percocet) for a few weeks after, since then just the hydrocodone (as vicoprofen).
My wife has much worse back pain than me, and she can barely tolerate half of a vicodin. I feel sorry for her in that she can't really get much relief but at the same time, I guess she doesn't have to worry about ever being addicted. My mom's the same way - she would rather put up with the pain than the side effects of the narc. Me, I don't much like pain. I do have a lot of people watching over me including a doctor who knows what I am....
Barisax
Prayers to you and your wife Barisax! I love how the program comes first in your thoughts. Agree about the injections, I would need to consider them pretty hard. I am glad you have a doctor that understands the program so well.
Tom
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Glad to hear you're doing well Tom ... Sounds like Tasha is letting out the teacher that's bottled up inside her ... LOL Sounds like good advice ... (oh, she's teaching me all about 'butter' too ...) (kinda makes me wish I'd married a farm girl now!!!)
I'm ready to toss the aspirin and ibprofin that barisax talked about too ... been living off them for a couple days now ... I've gotten to where I don't like pills period now ...
God Bless, Pappy
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turninggrey wrote: Prayers to you and your wife Barisax! I love how the program comes first in your thoughts. Agree about the injections, I would need to consider them pretty hard. I am glad you have a doctor that understands the program so well.
Tom
Thanks. I've been trying to just let these health issues go to HP, its obvious I can't do anything about them especially hers.
I do find some irony in the fact that for my last sobriety anniversary I was in the hospital and pretty heavily doped. But the only alcohol was the rubbing alcohol for the needles I was getting stuck with every 12 hours or so.
I'm ready to toss the aspirin and ibprofin that barisax talked about too ... been living off them for a couple days now ... I've gotten to where I don't like pills period now ... s, Pappy
I take so many pills that when I get one of those "list all your medications" questionaires, I can no longer do it from memory.
But I did hear from the doctor yesterday on my last labs.... my bloodwork is all good. LDL, HDL, triglycerides all good. A1C hemoglobin is 6.7 - for T-II diabetics it should be under 7. And that's only taking metformin, no insulin or any particularly good behavior on my part.
That's great news barisax ... keep doing whatever it is you don't know that you're doin' ... LOL
Have you anr/or your better half tried a chiropractor yet? ... Mine did wonders for me last year ... she a big woman from the 'amazon' I think, but man, could she 'snap' me back into shape (pun intended) ... It's far better to try than surgery, is all I'm concerned with ... and better than those pills too, if one can cut down on using them ...
Just a thought!
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Actually I started going to a chiropractor in my first year sober, massages too. If not for both I would have had back problems 20+ years ago. I still go regularly. The pain I'm having is internal and seems to defy spinal manipulation. When I woke up with my first kidney stone, I thought I had just wrenched my back sleeping in a funny position but no amount of back movement would relieve the pain, or affect it at all. That's what this is like but I've already been scanned, radiated, scoped, and proped and - I don't currently have a kidney stone. It just feels like it sometimes. The chiro keeps the rest of it limber.
My wife also goes when I can coerce her into it. She has a herniated disc, and I think the chiro helps somewhat but she says the work he does on her neck is more effective. I think I'm going to buy her a prepaid 4-visit "gift pack" from the chiro so she has no excuse not to go The chiropractor has been a wonderful asset in my sober years and probably warded off surgery and pain meds for a long time - as well as just keeping me active. Chiropractors have one fault though: they think they can cure a rainy day and they have an alternative treatment for _everything_. Mine tried to talk me out of having my gall bladder removed - ok, what kind of bone-cracking will fix a rotten gallbladder? It's up to me to decide what's working and what isn't.
Chiropractor and others warned me that if I had my GB removed, I wouldn't be able to eat greasy food anymore... LOL. Eating greasy food is what caused the GB attack in the first place. Once it was gone, and a few months in recovery, I found that I could eat anything I could ever eat before. I do have "ghost gall bladder pain" at times when I eat, but it isn't triggered by eating greasy food - it's triggered by eating *any* food, and it may be connected to my back/ghost kidney stone pain. Sometimes it wraps around front to back like a moving kidney stone.
I have *always* had little bouts of pain and sensitivity on my right side gut. If I get an abdominal massage, sometimes I can barely tolerate being touched under the rib cage on the right side. When I found out about the gall stones, I thought this might explain it - assuming some stones were there for a long time. But even with the GB gone, I am still sensitive. As I told my doctor, the best way to avoid the pain is to stay in bed and not eat. While at times its an appealing thought, I still have much to do in this life.
When I was diagnosed with the heart murmur last year, I went through gobs of tests, all inconclusive. Angiogram, multiple EKGs and echocardiograms, even a TEE scan where they stick something down your throat to get a close look at the heard. Slight heart wall thickening but nothing serious. No valve problems found. I sort of joked with the cardiologist and I said I guess you'll find out what it is in the autopsy. Maybe that's what it will be with my right side pain. I can see it now, they're conducting the autopsy in the year 2058 on my 101-year old body, my brain and all of its wonderful knowledge and experience already having been downloaded to the Ultranet. "Oh hey look! There's an aluminum beer can tab from 1978 sticking in the liver! How'd we miss that?"
I see you're very familiar with the 'witc ... uh ... bones doctors ... good ... they were a great 'alternative' for me ... but not for everyone ...
I been poked and prodded enough to last me for a while too ... last Sunday nite (Monday a.m.) they gave me a 2nd Cat scan with contrast, she said this might 'burn' a little ... HOLY cow turds, I thought my skin was going to melt ... And what do Cats know that I don't??? ... ... ... My luck, my 'scanner' had fleas ... I have been itching a lot lately ...........
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After the last round of scans, barium, and all that turned up no kidney or stone problems, my doctor said ok no more pictures, no more nuking for a while. That's fine with me!
The one most relieved was my urologist because he's now off the hook. I think he was concerned he may have missed a stone fragment that had grown up and gotten bigger, but there's nothing there. Also fine with me!
The chiropractor has been a wonderful asset in my sober years and probably warded off surgery and pain meds for a long time - as well as just keeping me active. Chiropractors have one fault though: they think they can cure a rainy day and they have an alternative treatment for _everything_. Mine tried to talk me out of having my gall bladder removed - ok, what kind of bone-cracking will fix a rotten gallbladder? It's up to me to decide what's working and what isn't.