Oxycodone and I

turninggrey · MIP Old Timer

Oxycodone and I

mikef · MIP Old Timer

smile Hey Tom glad your feeling little less pain,that foot was ugly looking!Good job also reminding everyone that our bodies do not know the difference from taking needed medications and using. At times of illness we go "inside" to adress the mental part of taking our medications with doctors guidance and as prescribed......Can we do without drugs prescribed for pain and take something non addictive(like you chose)? or do we rationalize and say oh the pain is worse than it is and use.until we could unleash another monster(I personally have been there and know many others like that)...In recovery ,with our tools,we learn to address these serious issues...Way to go...Ya know,taking pictures of mountain climbers could be fun too :) :)

justadrunk · MIP Old Timer

Thanks for the update - and so glad you're feeling a better. That was a whopper of an image (your foot), and I actually showed it to my sons orthopedic doctor yesterday on my phone, while we were in Xray for Max! LOL After all he's seen, he even got a little startled!

Mike B. · MIP Old Timer

Nicely done Tom! Taking them as needed and getting off them when not needed. Rigorous honesty. God and The Program are there with you Tom. Looks like the drugs didn't block the channel to your HP. Nice little reminder there in your dreams. I still get them. Don't want to go back to that mess. Wishing you a speedy recovery.

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

Great job and great post ... since getting sober, I too, have had surgery ... forefront of my thinking was to use the oxycodone
only when I 'needed' it, not when my brain 'wanted' it ... great thing about the way the program has changed our way of thinking ...

pinkchip · MIP Old Timer

That's gonna be an issue for me if and when it happens....Good job handling it and wishing you a speedy recovery!! (for your ankle - we wish each other slow recoveries in AA right?)

Mr_David · MIP Old Timer

turninggrey wrote:
It reminds me today how dark and seamy our lives and thoughts were with alcohol.

Not anymore.

turninggrey · MIP Old Timer

Thanks guys, just a reminder that nothing is consequence free....there is an after effect to just 3 days of pain meds. There is depression, insomnia, constipation.....all kinds of unpleasant things. The good thing is I know its almost over and I sometimes wonder how people handle this without a HP? The crazy thing is that "bumps in the road" like this make me appreciate the program more and the downer turns into an upper because through the unpleasantness, the shining ray of light is your contact with your HP. As I write this, I am feeling hypocritical because I just realized that during this event ,I have just been "assuming" my HP's help in sort of a childish manner. The help has been there, but I am feeling the need to get off the computer and have a quiet moment with my HP expressing my gratitude and humility.
Tom

Col · MIP Old Timer

Your last post reminds me of the many times I've heard people in the program express how lucky we are to be members of AA. At first, I thought " gosh, these people are delusional!!", but now after a bit of time sober , I get it. Wishing you a smooth recovery, Tom:)

yayo4206923 · Veteran Member

im afraid to take mental meds if i need them cause for some reason i keep thinking pills will lead to booze

turninggrey · MIP Old Timer

yayo4206923 wrote:
im afraid to take mental meds if i need them cause for some reason i keep thinking pills will lead to booze

Me too!

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

Yayo, ... ... ... the pills often do lead straight back to booze ... before this program, I would end my healing process
by lying to the Dr about my pain, and get another script for oxycodone ... then I'd double up on my doses then directly
back to the booze ... my thoughts and actions are so much different now-a-days ... and I love 'turninggrey's approach
and common sense to the situation ... without this program it would be so easy to slip back to our old ways ...

yayo4206923 · Veteran Member

but i mean like lexapro and that kind of pills

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

Oh, ... shows where my mind was ... I was thinking 'pain pills' ... LOL

yayo4206923 · Veteran Member

well thats where my mind is. if i take these prescription meds for my brain chemistry im afraid of relapse

Pythonpappy · MIP Old Timer

Yayo, ...

As long as you stay in fit spiritual condition, you'll have little trouble staying sober ... If the lexapro, or similar drugs,
prevent or hamper you from growing spiritual, then I'd have a problem with that ... but if you can't function without
them, then talk to your doctor about the drugs effect ... side-effects from some of these drugs are worse than the
problem they're trying to help us with ... and there are some who absolutely cannot function without some of these
drugs ...

guess I better leave it at that for now ...

turninggrey · MIP Old Timer

Hey Yayo,
I guess you know that AA does not stand between an individual and his doctor. I do know that if there is one thing to fix with a multiple problem situation, its the booze first. Have you discussed with your doctor the situation? I am with Pappy on the notion that if you feel strongly established in the program, and you have discussed this with your doctor, you should feel confident in your medical provider.
http://www.soberrecovery.com/articles/2102.html

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/dual_diagnosis.htm

Rob84 · MIP Old Timer

yayo4206923 wrote:
well thats where my mind is. if i take these prescription meds for my brain chemistry im afraid of relapse

Hi Yayo,

I have know many people in AA who have been on anti-depression/psyc Meds for years, my wife being one.

My experience is: I have not found your fear that these types of meds leads to drinking to be untrue. I would probably argue that they help keep people sober than the other way around.

I can't tell you what to do, listen to your doctor and tell him your situation.

Mike B. · MIP Old Timer

Yayo, I'm with Pappy, Tom and Rob on this one. From my experience, The Steps and God(HP) relieve many symptoms associated with Alcoholism that mimic other psychological conditions. But, there are people who truly have underlying medical conditions, brain chemical imbalance being one, that may need meds to maintain balance.

I take Celexa(generic version of Lexapro- it's cheaper). I've taken it for many years. I don't use it in place of The Program. I'm very active in The Program. I've tried to come off it a few times and my mind starts to race on it's own. For me, the Celexa seems to slow the racing mind enough where The Program can take hold. I guess it would create that balance that others already have. Don't know. Only know what works for me. My doctor is aware of my Alcoholism and I would rather not take it, but at this point I've tried and things got woarse. So I stay on it for Today. My Sponsor is also aware that I'm on it. He's an oldtimer blue collar Sponsor and he worked through it with me. His comments were: as long as it doesn't block you from God(HP) and hamper you from staying Spiritual fit then you are fine.