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Hi. I'm new here, and this is my first go at recovery. And today, I got caught, on camera, stealing substances from work. But you know what amazes me? The guy who has the tape, agreed to dispose of it and give me another chance. He said he used to steal all sorts of things all the time. But also told me he thought I needed to seek help. So, here I am. Brand spankin new. Just wanted to say hello on my first day. 

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Welcome to MIP - so glad you posted a hello! You're following directions - that will come in handy in recovery : )

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Thanks. I'm really nervous. What will I do if I can't get my hands on those pills? What will happen if I gat caught again? But, google has shown me a few meetings I can get to. What if I get there and no one notices me?

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Hey, welcome neo! Just focus today on not using Right this moment. This is a one day, one moment at a time program. You'll be ok

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I would say the chances of that are real - but unlikely. I wasn't prepared to say out loud in front of people that I'm an alcoholic, and I didn't even say my real first name... then I had to admit what it actually was later, and that was kind of AWKWARD. I had no idea what I was about to experience at all - and it surely showed. I could only whimper out a fake name for the first 3 meetings - so nervous I could barely speak English... it sounded more like grunting seals... mixed with crying.

I think I would have been better off going to a speaker meeting at first. Do you see that on the list of meetings in your area?

What's cool about AA is that everyone is genuinely going to want to help you - it's really only up to you to let them or not. I was kinda bad at that part at first.



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Yeah google showed me lots of speaker meetings. And maybe I can get familiar with the steps by going to step meetings. I have two jobs and full time schooling, so I'm not picky about meeting types. I just know that if he turned me in, all my schooling would be nothing and I would lose any chance of becoming a nurse. So I guess it's this or... Idk.

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Welcome Neophyte, ... ... ...

If you have a drinking problem OR a Pill problem ... MIP family can help ... the key to recovery is do you feel like you need to quit or if you feel you have to quit ... Recovery works alot better and easier if you desire to quit and are not pressured or forced to do so ... If you don't quit, then it's only a matter of time before your circumstances will trap you ... and then you stand a good chance of losing everything ... A lot of us here on this site have done just that, lost everything ... We are the lucky ones ... We've got a lot of friends that didn't make it ... and they're dead ...

So tell us how and what you feel ... and sit back and listen ...

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Every great mistake has a halfway moment, a split second, when it can be recalled and prehaps remedied. - pearl buck (that's exactly how I feel, and I don't like that at any moment he could change his mind and turn me in. I'm looking for a new job tonight)

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Welcome to MIP! Glad you stopped in,keep coming back!!



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Neo, one day you may look back on that man and think that he cared enough to help you help yourself. But remember to do this for you. I didn't do it for me in the beginning, and I Fed up big time too.

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Your probably right ruhig. I'm just not trusting him right now. I guess that's the opposite of how I should feel, but maybe a fresh start at a new company will help.

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Welcome.

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Welcome to "MIP".



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A fresh start and a new company will not help. That would be running from the problem. What did you mean when you said "what if I can't get my hands on those pills?" Do you even want to be sober? If that guy wanted to "bust" your or turn you in - it would have happened. After a little time - it will be unprovable and hearsay anyhow.

Hence, what do you do when you have been given a chance to turn your life around while the consequences are minimal? Get into recovery and work it!! Forget about what you can't control, the embarassment of him catching you....your paranoia and start your own recovery program. This will allow you to hold your head up high rather than ducking your head and running off somewhere new. If you cannot arrest a pill addiction and what is at the root of that, you probably shouldn't be a nurse anyhow. PS - this is not an uncommon problem for nurses and there is what is called an "INP" impaired nurses program - I think they tend to give you one shot and then you are done though.

I am tell you this as someone who is in the helping profession. I wrecked my car driving drunk and somehow never got a DUI - By all rights I should have lost my job and wound up in jail that night. By the grace of God - That was a moment of clarity and I have not drank since. What lesson do you learn when you tell yourself "Oh if I lose this job, I can just get another one?" You will eventually give up jobs more easily to the point where your addiction tells you that you don't even need a job.... Get to meetings, start working the program, and don't make excuses.

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Mark (pinkchip) wants people sober. Really bad. He really truly cares for people. He is one of the people here, who has saved my life.

BUT -

If he would have said this to me in person, on my first day, I would have said to him "who do you think you are telling me I shouldn't be a nurse" stormed off, maybe slapped him first, and possibly never looked back. The lovely thing about MIP is that you can squint and squirm and skim over some of the really hard to hear stuff, and come back to it when you're feeling a little less fragile, or are mentally prepared to hear it. I was such a sobbing wreck a few months ago. It would have been hard to read the above remark, but also VERY eye opening, and he's completely right.

I was caring for my kids drunk. I wouldn't leave them with someone like me - that's sad. It's my own kids. Today I would be happy to leave my kids with someone like me.

Would you leave your Mother in the care of someone like you? Only you can truthfully answer that question, and you already know what you're doing isn't ideal... that you probably don't feel proud of yourself... and you know deep down you can be better. You went into the profession because you have a caring heart. It's about time to let it heal and grow. It's about time to be the person you were always meant to be, and you know you can be. You are in a job where you are always helping others. It must be hard to let someone help you... but you're going to have to throw that notion out the window, and accept some help here. Some day, you will be able to help people in a way beyond your wildest dreams... but you MUST help yourself first. It's okay to let go.

(and go to a meeting or 90) Hehe

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Hey Neophyte, ... ... ...

PinkChip nailed it ... moving to a different company because one person knows what you did is crazy, ... if you really think that's going to solve your problem ...

Sounds to me like you're avoiding facing up to the real problem ... sounds like the drugs are doing your thinking and talking for you ... Wake-up girl ... Before it's too late ... Please!!!

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Welcome!  Glad to have you here with us.  Keep coming back and help us stay sober.  Your post help us as much as we can offer you.  smile



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"A fresh start and a new company will not help. That would be running from the problem. What did you mean when you said "what if I can't get my hands on those pills?" Do you even want to be sober? If that guy wanted to "bust" your or turn you in - it would have happened. After a little time - it will be unprovable and hearsay anyhow. "

i've been taking them since I was 12, I barely remember a time I wasn't counting, sorting, splitting, rationing them out. And quite frankly I can't figure out why on earth he didn't tell. When I asked him, he said he liked me better than the cops. And I just don't want to be caught again. The logical thing to do is not be sneaky so ihave nothing to be caught in.


"Hence, what do you do when you have been given a chance to turn your life around while the consequences are minimal? Get into recovery and work it!! Forget about what you can't control, the embarassment of him catching you....your paranoia and start your own recovery program. This will allow you to hold your head up high rather than ducking your head and running off somewhere new. If you cannot arrest a pill addiction and what is at the root of that, you probably shouldn't be a nurse anyhow. PS - this is not an uncommon problem for nurses and there is what is called an "INP" impaired nurses program - I think they tend to give you one shot and then you are done though."

thanks for the info on INP. I made it to a midnight meeting last night. Someone said not to make any big changes my first year. It was a discussion meeting, but I didn't say anything. I was nervous to even have my chair squeek.

I am tell you this as someone who is in the helping profession. I wrecked my car driving drunk and somehow never got a DUI - By all rights I should have lost my job and wound up in jail that night. By the grace of God - That was a moment of clarity and I have not drank since. What lesson do you learn when you tell yourself "Oh if I lose this job, I can just get another one?" You will eventually give up jobs more easily to the point where your addiction tells you that you don't even need a job.... Get to meetings, start working the program, and don't make excuses.

I don't plan on stealing from a different job. Just not have to work with the one person who could pull out this tape at any moment. Blackmail isn't fun.

" Mark (pinkchip) wants people sober. Really bad. He really truly cares for people. He is one of the people here, who has saved my life. "

I deserved his honesty, but thanks for making that blow easier :) and interestingly enough, because of what I've stolen, I always planned to keep mom at home with cameras in every room, no blind spots. As well as hide the pills.


Thanks for your support guys. Made it my first 24 hours. I guess that's the first part of this, realizing who I am and what I'm doing is crazy ass stupid? Afterall, I haven't fallen apart today after not picking up, I won't tomorrow either.

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Made it my first 24 hours. I guess that's the first part of this, realizing who I am and what I'm doing is crazy ass stupid? Afterall, I haven't fallen apart today after not picking up, I won't tomorrow either.


Take it one day at a time....Might be a good idea to get some phone numbers at your next meeting....You can tell the person running the meeting before it starts you need a list of numbers...And here is the kicker....Use the list. Call the people on it and introduce yourself...Tell them you look forward to seeing them at meetings...Let it go from there....The idea behind that....Is when you have days that aren't going as well as you like...And your sick brain is telling you to pick up to make things better...You have people that you can call that will talk some sense into you...One simple phone call can save your life. Keep up the good work. 



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Depending on what the pills are - You might need detox to get this rolling. I didn't mean to be harsh in my previous post but it just seemed that the whole story wasn't there so it's hard to guage what suggestions to give people based on that. I would mix some NA meetings in if drugs is the primary problem. The message is basically the same though (and of course you belong here as well) but those folks may be even more knowledgeable about the specifics of what you are going through. Alcohol is what took me down but I definitely was the type of person that would look in your medicine cabinet to see what goodies were in there and if you had enough to spare for me to take (as if that made it okay right?) - Yah.... That all came out in my stepwork. Stealing other people's medications is not new to me - so don't think I'm judging you.

Just concerned about what the medications are - what kind of withdrawal you might have - if you need to do this under doctor supervision -

Neophyte, if this is something that has been entrenched in your life since you were 12, it might be something to consider rehab over. I found the thought appalling when it was mentioned to me but now have been in recovery long enough to see that dedicating a few months to "kick start" a healthy program of sober living is worth it. If you have to take a semester off school, so be it. It's so that you can be healthy the rest of your life.

What makes for long lasting sobriety is just knowing on a gut level that drugs/alcohol are killing you and you cannot live that way anymore. Once you really accept that, you'll do whatever is suggested and it will happen for you.

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Amen to Mark's (PinkChip) share ... ... ...

Neophyte ... ... ... take to heart what has been shared here ... your decision 'TODAY' can affect the 'peace and serenity' you have OR don't have for the rest of your life ... those of us who insist on continuing to do it our way, usually wind up in prisons and institutions ... well, ... or dead ... ... ... Please choose your path for life carefully ... You may turn out to be a person without any family or friends if you place a higher value on your drugs than them ... You have obviously shown that you'll go to great lengths to satisfy your appetite for your addiction ... Please take the next "RIGHT" step ... the one you already know 'down deep' is the right one ...

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"Depending on what the pills are - You might need detox to get this rolling. I didn't mean to be harsh in my previous post but it just seemed that the whole story wasn't there so it's hard to guage what suggestions to give people based on that. I would mix some NA meetings in if drugs is the primary problem. The message is basically the same though (and of course you belong here as well) but those folks may be even more knowledgeable about the specifics of what you are going through. Alcohol is what took me down but I definitely was the type of person that would look in your medicine cabinet to see what goodies were in there and if you had enough to spare for me to take (as if that made it okay right?) - Yah.... That all came out in my stepwork. Stealing other people's medications is not new to me - so don't think I'm judging you."
I only didn't mention what they were cause this is, after all, ALCOHOLics anonymous. And at first, in fact all the way up til this job, it's been adderall/Ritalin and then they don't give speed to old people so I switched to oxy/morphine/downers. I'm not suffering anything I didn't go through when I was using (sleep disturbances vivid dreams and occasionally morning vomiting). But I did take your advice about the INP, and went to an out patient rehab. I have a dr appointment on Tuesday, but they don't know why. And I don't know what I'll tell them when I get there. But I heard something about eating candy for PAWS, so I have a box of candy in my car. And if you were judging me, that's ok I deserve it. But I figured you for a tough love guy after reading your post. Uh, rigorous honesty right??


Pythonpappy- I just want my license. I love my old people. Love them like family, but stealing from them isn't right. So if I get sober to keep the only thing in life I've actually taken seriously, I'd really like to stay here.

I'm so grateful for you guys and your responses. Really. Thank you.

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My prayers are with you...That this works out for you. Give it all you got.

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I wonder if that guy stopped stealing substances by going to AA or NA.



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Either he's on a down hill relapse or he doesn't know he's got a problem. Pot in his basement and he only put up a camera to catch me stealing cause he was also using his moms pills. I thought he was in a 12 step program too when he started showing me spirituality and myth books.

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