Angst means fear or anxiety (anguish is its Latinate equivalent, and anxious, anxiety are of similar origin). The word angst was introduced into English from Danish angst via existentialist Søren Kierkegaard. It is used in English to describe an intense feeling of apprehension, anxiety or inner turmoil. The term Angst distinguishes itself from the word Furcht (German for "fear") in that Furcht is a negative anticipation regarding a concrete threat, while Angst is a (possibly nondirectional) emotion, though the terms are colloquially sometimes used synonymously.[citation needed]
Existentialist philosophers use the term "angst" with a different connotation. The use of the term was first attributed to Danish philosopher Søren Kierkegaard (18131855). In The Concept of Anxiety (also known as The Concept of Dread, depending on the translation), Kierkegaard used the word Angest (in common Danish, angst, meaning "dread" or "anxiety") to describe a profound and deep-seated spiritual condition of insecurity and fear in the free human being. Where the animal is a slave to its instincts but always conscious in its own actions, Kierkegaard believed that the freedom given to people leaves the human in a constant fear of failing his/her responsibilities to God. Kierkegaard's concept of angst is considered to be an important stepping stone for 20th-century existentialism. While Kierkegaard's feeling of angst is fear of actual responsibility to God, in modern use, angst was broadened by the later existentialists to include general frustration associated with the conflict between actual responsibilities to self, one's principles, and others (possibly including God). Martin Heidegger used the term in a slightly different way.
Only a 'fruitcake' will understand this ..... .... ... ... LOL
Knock yourself out, love ya, Pappy
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'Those who leave everything in God's hand will eventually see God's hand in everything.'
I would kill for a relevant conversation. A healthy conversation. An intelligent conversation. All these by my definition of relevant, healthy, and intelligent, of course. My confidence in finding such a conversation is weak and the idea of sorting through the masses to find someone capable of having such a conversation ... is depressing. So, usually I talk to myself when my wife is unavailable. :)
I have interesting conversations with me btw. Yesterday while looking skyward I had memories of looking for shapes in the clouds and wondered why people only look at the clouds instead of the spaces between the clouds for shapes. That kept me busy. I spent the rest of the day not looking at my thoughts but trying to see the spaces between my thoughts.
Okay, ... ... ... STAND - BACK everybody ... ... ... I think we may have TWO, ... yes, count'em ... ... ... TWO 'NUT jobs' here ... Angel & Ruhig .... Ya'll ain't rite!!! ..... LMAO
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'Those who leave everything in God's hand will eventually see God's hand in everything.'
Your late ol' man... The only thing I do know is that I'm crazy. However... Last week I discovered 2 things... 1. Schizophenics should use immense caution if trading nietzsche and 2. They have the best metaphoric-psychologic-mind phuck conversations. Crazies are better
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sober: showing no excessive or extreme qualities of fancy, emotion, or prejudice
Ruhig for me that is fear usually accompanied by some conviction that It can't happen, won't happen, isn't supposed to happen for or with me. Sometimes it's led into the room by my low self esteem and depression or my complacency and procrastination. ((((hugs))))
p.s. My alcoholism counselor at the VA taught me that feeling are inside reactions to outside events. I then learned the difference twix feelings and thoughts. Got out of my head about how I saw things and into my gut about how they affected me...my oh my did people start to run the other way.
-- Edited by Jerry F on Wednesday 6th of June 2012 12:28:11 AM
Most likely it's just normal and it's that you want the conversation and the engaging relationship to come to you rather than having to put yourself outside your comfort zone and cultivate the relationships you want.
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Lol... Ask a bunch of alkies to identify an emotion, and it becomes a psych diagnosis contest :) since it went away, I figured it was just that I wanted a metaphysical conversation w someone, but didn't know who to have it with. Oh, and throw some ego narcissism in there too lol
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sober: showing no excessive or extreme qualities of fancy, emotion, or prejudice
I don't know what to call it, but I had it all the time in the beginning. And sometimes still. I would see all the happy shining people with there happy shining families enjoying their happy shining lives and I hated them, yet I wanted to be just like them. Its like sitting in my car and my foot on the gas to the floor but the car is still on park. Its a lonely tiring business this alcoholism. we are a strange lot. So glad I ain't alone with my insanity any more.
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Since it cost a lot to win, and even more to loose, you and me gotta spend some time just wondering what to choose.
I was more your introverted egomaniac. These days it's nice to be happy with my own company, but it's also nice to have an intelligent converstation, about AA or about something else. The latter was a skill I have had to learn. I had no tolerance for small talk and I usually wanted to get the subject around to the most important thing from my point of view- MEEEE! I could bore the pants of anyone. But after a while I began to lose interest in selfish things and became interested in my fellows. In these circumstances it is much easier to have worthwhile conversations.
I don't really think you have a mental disorder (other than alcoholism like we all have). Mostly (in my experience with other alcohlics) that covers a wide array of our problems and just knowing that pretty much is at the root of most of our problems - social and/or emotional. Occassionally there are other issues but alcohlism usually winds up interacting with them in a manner that is self-sabotaging and stops you from getting treatment for any other problem. Hence - Alcoholism is the biggest issue for us. Always.
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