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I'm Jenn I'm an alcoholic. Today I met with my sponsor and two of her other sponsees, and we are starting a Joe and Charlie big book step study or something like that. I'm 56 days sober, so this is my first time "working" the steps. Well maybe this isn't a question but more of a rambling. I'm honestly afraid to start the step study. I have a really hard time trusting people and even though I love my sponsor and my sober sisters, I am just having a hard time thinking about the steps and sharing about them. We're starting step 1 next week... I don't get how you "work" step 1. "we admitted we were powerless over alcohol and that our lives had become unmanageable"...I admit it and I know it, so how do I "work" it? Guess I'm just scared of the unknown...?

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Well hello, it sounds like you have crossed the threshold of Step 1 already.  

Step one is to help you understand the true concept of alcoholic powerlessness. For us, we are powerless over what happens once we take that first drink.  It triggers the craving for the next one.  We cannot reasonably predict where the first drink will take us or drop us off.  Also, we might even make vows to not drink and even though very sincere... we end up taking that first drink any ways, without so much a mental defense coming into play about it.

The second part of step one deals with the unmanagability of this disease.  We have tried many methods to bring it into some form of control, regulation, and though it may work for a short while it always ends up taking us right back to the mental, emotional and spiritual void that we are trying to get away from.

I think for me, I needed to literally write down 10 examples of powerlessness and 10 examples of how it made my life unmanagable, and doing this helped smash any further reservations that I could ever drink like normal people do.  This helped me fully admit and accept the true nature of my condition, and left little room for the mental manipulation that takes place before the first drink, the drink I don't wan to take and ended up taking many times any ways.

Try to remember, "we share in a general way, what we use to be like, what happened and what its like now"... we don't have to go into deep detail with the group, just simply acknowledge enough information that qualifies our presence and being a member of AA with a desire to stop drinking and recover from the dis-ease.. it creates.

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Hi Jenn,

Congrats on the 56 days.

Steps 1 and 2 are basically facts we need to believe to be true about ourselves, there is not a whole lot to really work, step 3 is a decision I try to renew every morning.

The Doctor's opinion and the first 3 chapters basically provide information/education to help us understand alcoholism, and aid us in taking step 1.

I usually have sponcee's read the DO and 1st 3 chapters, then write down some specific incidents on being powerless of alcohol and examples of unmanagebility in their lives. (not real familiar with Joe and Charie methods)

In my experience if one can truly surender/admitt defeat (can't do it on their own) and then become "willing" to embark on a new course of action, then they are on the right track.

Basically, a lot of the most of the steps involve getting honest and overcoming fear, and finding a "higher Power" to help you with the previous. I would just suggest discussing things that you are comfortable with in the group, and tell your sponsor you would like to dicuss the other things in private.

Turn your fears over to God and roll on with the study group, you will get more comfortable as time goes on.

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-- Edited by Rob84 on Monday 28th of November 2011 03:01:22 AM



-- Edited by Rob84 on Monday 28th of November 2011 03:03:30 AM

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56 days is something you want to keep. Nice job. I think I read that Big Book three times before I ever listened to Joe and Charlie tapes. And I learned a lot from them. You can get them free on the internet. They are two low bottom drunks that got together to study the big book and both have since passed away....Sober! I guess people started to join them in their BB study and pretty soon they had about 150 people in it. They were invited to speak at another meeting somewhere and the guy running it taped them. The tape got around and the rest is history. I really like how they bring this program down to earth. Keep it simple. Go into this with an open mind and listen to these guys. They have spoken all over the world and they see things in this book that I never did. Enjoy them.

I look at this program like a gift. One of the lucky ones that found it. Or was chosen for it...Not sure which. I don't know about you....But I was running out of options. My choices weren't very good. Jails, institutions or death...I was working on number three. I have no reason to be on a site like this...to be telling you this...Other than I'd like to see you get it. It can save your life and change the way you live it...All you have to do is want it. Don't be afraid of it...Embrace it....Enjoy the ride.

This site has a lot of speakers I listen to. I learn something from all of them. and there are 1000's. If I'm doing something around the house or there's nothing good on TV. I throw on a tape. If I'm not crazy about that tape. I'll try someone else. They're free. I recommend Joe and Charlie. They helped a lot of people...including myself.

Here you go....Lot's to learn here...Good stuff! They go through the big book and all the steps. It was like going to school for me. Just type in Joe and Charlie.

http://www.xa-speakers.org/pafiledb.php



 



 



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Hi Jenn and welcome to MIP.
The AA programme is very simple and, if it helps, can be further condensed into three elements. Trust God (steps 1-3), Clean house (4-11), help others(12). Step one is were we make a beginning by basically surrendering. It's about admitting complete defeat, unconditional surrender with no little idea lurking in the back of our mind the we might oneday be able to drink normally. As Rob says there is not a whole lot of work in this, it's just a matter of acceptance pure and simple. Most of the work has already been done by the time we get to AA. I shudder to think what it cost, all those false starts, humiliations, failed experiments in control, blundering into conflict with everyone around me. I did everything I could to stay out of AA, but in the end it was the only place where I could find hope.
There is a little more to it. Before attending my first AA meeting I spent some time with a man I now know was my 12 stepper. Through sharing his ESH with me, I learned I was an alcoholic of a particular type, the hopeless variety that has absolutely no defence against the first drink, and I could easily see the unmanageable state of my life. I also had it in mind that an AA group, being able to stay sober, had more power than me and I was willing to believe they could restore me to sanity. So in that sense I had no problem conceding to my innermost self that I was alcoholic and could not manage my own life. Had I been asked if I believed or was even willing to believe that a power greater than my self could restore me to sanity, I would have said yes. Steps one and two were done before I set foot in a meeting. However, in a very practical way, the meetings helped cement step one by sharing about what it was like (their examples of powerlessness). My first few meetings I met people who went out of their way to help me identify and to reassure me I was in the right place. All this happened before Joe and Charlie or even the internet had been invented. It happened because the local members were simply following the instructions in the Big Book.

Jenn, If you log onto the Step Board connected to this site you will find they are just getting started on step 1.

I am sometimes not sure if working the steps is a terribly helpful term. I remember a woman of some sobriety saying in a meeting that she wanted someone to tell her which steps to work in which situation and I had a mental picture of her standing before a row of 12 levers trying to work out which one to pull. Each step has a specific function, the benefit of which is often not apparent until after the step has been taken. I was fearful of some steps, so I began praying (step 3), among other things, for the strength and courage to to do what needed to be done. (the steps). Courage is fear that has said its prayers.
There are two acronyms for FEAR. F%#$ Everything And Run, or Face Everything And Recover.

God bless,
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To me it was the absolute knowledge that I had NO control over my drinking, that I would NEVER have control over my drinking and that the mess I had made of my life was NOT going to get better and was likely to get much worse. No ifs, buts, maybes or that some trick or magical pill would EVER change that.

I don't know about 'working' that step. I just had reached the very end of the road. I couldn't go on like I was any more but I couldn't stop. I had no control over anything and I needed help. Every last piece of me cried out for help. That led naturally to step two when I saw people that had been exactly like me and now were exactly what I wanted to be. That was my higher power for the moment and I surrendered utterly to it. Whatever the Fellowship suggested for me I would do. The real step three came later but that is a very long story that I might post one day when I can find the exact words to explain the beauty and wonder of it.

The rest is just me trying to be the best me I can be so that I can try and undo some of the damage I caused (getting there) and I can look at myself in the mirror and like who I see (I do. For the first time in a very long time, I do). Those steps are 'work' in a sense but as they say 'if you find a job you love you'll never work a day in your life', and I love this job.

Congrats on the 56 days. You're doing great.

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Hey there, Greetings. Thats a really good question. And I really like what has been said about it so far, I can identify with all of it. For me most of my "working step one" was done before I really got to the rooms of AA and stopped being a visitor. My drinking cured me of wanting to drink any more. Problem was I didnt have the needed power to stay stopped and comfortable for any period of time. I was beyond self help and human aid. I needed the power that runs the universe. Joe and Charlie are a couple of my AA heroes. I have listened to them in private and in an AA book study setting many times, more then i could possibly count. Please dont let fear hold you from the opportunity to experience it. As far as me working step one, there really is no work. Step one and two are conclusions of the mind based on my experience with alcohol kicking my ass, and my utter inability to run my life drinking or sober. The best tested and long standing way of getting this through the almost impenetrable head of an alcoholic is " one alcoholic talking to another " not telling them what they should or shouldn't do, but what happened to them, what they did, and what they are like now. One of the best examples to me comes from our big book in the story section from one of AA's pioneers. The story is called " He sold himself short " Im gonna paste the part im talking about.......................................

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I wanted it, and would do anything to get it. I was completely licked by alcohol.
I can still remember very distinctly getting into Akron at eleven p.m. and routing this same Howard out of bed to do something about me. He spent two hours with me that night telling me his story. He said he had finally learned that drinking was a fatal illness made up of an allergy plus an obsession, and once the drinking had passed from habit to obsession, we were completely hopeless, and could look forward only to spending the balance of our lives in mental institutions or to death.
He laid great stress on the progression of his attitude toward life and people, and most of his attitudes had been very similar to mine. I thought at times that he was telling my story! I had thought that I was completely different from other people, that I was beginning to become a little balmy, even to the point of withdrawing more and more from society and wanting to be alone with my bottle.
Here was a man with essentially the same outlook on life, except that he had done something about it. He was happy, getting a kick out of life and people, and beginning to get his medical practice back again. As I look back on that first evening I realize that I began to hope, then, for the first time; and I felt that if he could regain these things, perhaps it would be possible for me too.
The next afternoon and evening, two other men visited me and each told me his story and the things that they were doing to try to recover from this tragic illness. They had that certain something that seemed to glow, a peace and a serenity combined with happi-

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ness. In the next two or three days the balance of this handful of men contacted me, encouraged me, and told me how they were trying to live this program of recovery and the fun they were having doing it.
Then and then only, after a thorough indoctrination by eight or nine individuals, was I allowed to attend my first meeting. This first meeting was held in the living room of a home and was led by Bill D., the first man that Bill W. and Dr. Bob had worked with successfully.
The meeting consisted of perhaps eight or nine alcoholics and seven or eight wives. It was different from the meetings now held. The big A.A. book had not been written and there was no literature except various religious pamphlets. The program was carried on entirely by word of mouth.
The meeting lasted an hour and closed with the Lord's Prayer. After it was closed we all retired to the kitchen and had coffee and doughnuts and more discussion until the small hours of the morning.
I was terribly impressed by this meeting and the quality of happiness these men displayed, despite their lack of material means. In this small group, during the Depression, there was no one who was not hard up.
I stayed in Akron two or three weeks on my initial trip trying to absorb as much of the program and philosophy as possible. I spent a great deal of time with Dr. Bob, whenever he had the time to spare, and in the homes of two or three other people, trying to see how the family lived the program. Every evening we would meet at the home of one of the members and have coffee and doughnuts and spend a social evening.
The day before I was due to go back to Chicago, a

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Wednesday and Dr. Bob's afternoon off, he had me down to the office and we spent three or four hours formally going through the Six-Step program as it was at that time. The six steps were:
1. Complete deflation.
2. Dependence and guidance from a Higher Power.
3. Moral inventory.
4. Confession.
5. Restitution.
6. Continued work with other alcoholics.
Dr. Bob led me through all of these steps. At the moral inventory, he brought up some of my bad personality traits or character defects, such as selfishness, conceit, jealousy, carelessness, intolerance, ill-temper, sarcasm and resentments. We went over these at great length and then he finally asked me if I wanted these defects of character removed. When I said yes, we both knelt at his desk and prayed, each of us asking to have these defects taken away.
This picture is still vivid. If I live to be a hundred, it will always stand out in my mind. It was very impressive and I wish that every A.A. could have the benefit of this type of sponsorship today. Dr. Bob always emphasized the religious angle very strongly, and I think it helped. I know it helped me. Dr. Bob then led me through the restitution step, in which I made a list of all of the persons I had harmed, and worked out ways and means of slowly making restitution.

 

I hope this helps you and anyone else struggleing to keep comming back and make AA and our way of life the center of yours...

 



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When I completely accepted being powerless, I began to experience some peace and hope.


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Jenn it sounds like you've got #1 done already and are ready for more practice with rigourous honesty...Letting other know you are afraid...just afraid like you have done here.  Working the program was going to change me and I new nothing about that and I was afraid of "what I might become". The "what I might become" happens to be the last word of #2...Sane.  It doesn't even mention sober...it says sane because I came to understand that trying to live and have a manageable life while under the influence of a mind and mood altering chemical was insanity.  I could relate to insanity by the time I got into recovery cause I knew I was certifiable and looking for the time and place to just end it all (again).  That's insane...drinking until there was nothing left and opting for suicide (which drinking like I was, was proof of suicide in action) reaffirmed that I was powerless and unmanaged.  Sanity!! what a novel concept...the ability and facility to attain and maintain a consistent and orderly process of thought!!...how in the hell would I ever be able to manage that deally wopper!!.  Stop drinking first...find powers greater than alcohol that I could and would fix my mind, body, spirit and emotions to 24/7 and then....  You already have those powers yourself...sponsor, sobriety sisters, AA, steps and traditions, slogans, literature, willingness and courage to change the things you can and maybe another power greater than all others who you can attach yourself to like super velcro.  Awwww #2 and #3 will be coming up soon enough.  You're doing very very good.  Celebrate day 56...Congradulations!!   (((((hugs))))) smile

 



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There is absolutely nothing novel I can add here. Great knowledge from everyone else :)

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Step 1 is the only step we can do 100%.
There is no good news at step 1. It means we are stuffed!
We had to concede to our innermost selves we were alcoholics. This is different from saying hi, I'm Lou, I'm an alcoholic. It means we are beaten.
I've read all the good stuff above and that's all I can add. Except my life is unmanageable because of my THINKING...not my DRINKING.
And that although there is no good news at step 1, it comes in step 2 & 3.
1- I cant
2- he can
3- ill let him

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Welcome Jenn I really thought Step 1 was a no brainer. Would I be attending AA if I had any power? But I could only get 6 or 7 months of what I thought was quality sobriety in and then seemingly out of nowhere I was drunk again. I kept thinking well I need to get a sponsor. When I had one and still found myself drinking after the 7 or so month period I thought well I need to do step 4 . My sponsor did tell me you need to revisit Step 1 and in frustration I did but I couldn't understand. Obviously I have no control and my life is unmanagable. I get it !! Then I listened to a speaker tape that John posted on here. If you look back over the recent posts you will find it. He talks about coming in and going out and knowing what he missed when he came back. Until finally he says I don't know. And he talks about the admitting powerlessness not only being in your head (which my head clearly understands) but it also needs to be in your heart. Is that what I am missing? Step 1 for me was/is more than just saying yep thats me. So my advise is to listen to as many people as possible and see what fits for you and don't take step 1 lightly

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