Mormons, we truly are no different than any of the christian community. Our beliefs are exactly the same as all the rest of the christian community out there-Jesus is our savoir too. We do have a bit more (not less) written doctrine and in it we note "do not drink" and "do not smoke" in our Doctrine and Covenants called "the Word of Wisdom." (What a great title, huh?) Although it is written in our teachings, it doesn't mean that we don't do it... I'm living proof, "that we ain't perfect!" Mormons can be Alcoholics as too!
It's important for the masses to know, we mormons too are imperfect and honestly very much the same as any other christian... Just ask us!
Quite honestly, in my opinion, I think because of my mormonism that I have grasped the AA higher power concept faster than many with no faith background and in many ways those who have some or even extensive christian upbringing. This is surrounded in what mormons call "the plan of salvation." If you want to know more, please ask me anything you'd like! I love my religion and am very proud to be in AA Fellowship with you all! We are all truly brothers and sisters!
Welcome ,yes we are a spiritual,not religious program and anyone is free to join us regardless of religion or lack of religion.Your concept of your Higher Power(it could be God as you understand God or no God at all) a Power that is loving and caring and greater than you.It is not a matter of 'Grasping" a Higher Power concept faster or slower it is a Power that can help you stay in sobriety and apply our solution,the Steps,worked with a sponsor in our lives and actions of.I have very strong personal faith beliefs but I am a member of a fellowship that does not discriminate on the "choice" of the Higher Power,a process of coming to believe,(whether you came in with an idea or a process that grew or is constantly developing)in order to remain in sobriety.We truly are brothers and sisters in a common identity,the illness of alcoholism and how we can "work out a solution,guided by that Power greater than ourselves.Glad you joined us//Peace...
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10.No A.A. group or member should ever, in such a way as to implicate A.A., express any opinion on outside controversial issuesparticularly those of politics, alcohol reform, or sectarian religion. The Alcoholics Anonymous groups oppose no one. Concerning such matters they can express no views whatever.
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No one's religious beliefs or lack thereof should stand in the way of working the AA program to sobriety. However what will stand in the way is a notion that AA "requires" a particular belief in order to proceed. IMO anyone clinging to that thought simply hasn't been to enough meetings.
No one's religious beliefs or lack thereof should stand in the way of working the AA program to sobriety. However what will stand in the way is a notion that AA "requires" a particular belief in order to proceed. IMO anyone clinging to that thought simply hasn't been to enough meetings.
Barisax
well SAID Bari, well said
/thumps his desk looking judicial and pompous lol
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Actually this post is in reference to someone believing that because someone is Mormon that they can't be an alcoholic because the religion doesn't allow alcohol and that likewise, their was a question about the mormon higher power being the Angel Moroni on the spire of each temple or the first president, Joseph Smith. My response is to just point to some misunderstandings...
I am a active, practicing, Mormon church member
I am an Alcoholic with the same chanllenges as all Alcoholics
The Mormon Higher Power is the same as the Christian Higher Power
It was a misunderstanding and I as reaching out to offer an explanation to those that may be confused. My intent BY NO MEANS has nothing to do with pushing my religion. Just clarity to the questions and an offer to give anyone an opportunity to ask questions if they would like. If any contriversy is initiated, by no means am I going to stand on a soap box and preach.
I have been to my share of meetings but I certainly appreciate all the explanations and pointers to this subject matter for those that believe that they need to soapbox their beliefs... that aint me!
Lance
-- Edited by Lance Romance on Tuesday 6th of September 2011 04:10:02 PM
-- Edited by Lance Romance on Tuesday 6th of September 2011 04:10:54 PM
We don't care if you are a mormon or a giant talking Frog from uruguay, if you are an alcoholic, you are in the right place
I won't tell you about my pagan pre-christian human sacrificial rites involving young virgins, and don't really care about hearing about mormon beliefs and we get along just fine, in AA our higher power is no one else's business
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Thx St. Pete
Across the board, all comments are greatly appreciated! I am quite interested in the worship of Giant Green Frogs... But I'll leave that to a different forum to learn more
I'm glad to hear about your religion. You were not preachy and left it open for people to PM you or ask questions. Diversity is the spice of life. One thing I like about AA is that it does put me in contact with people I would never know otherwise. Once again, this is timely and helps me bust my preconceptions as I just went to Utah and found the whole experience to be WAY different than I thought. Welcome Lance.
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Thanks pinkchip! I agree! One of the things I love is the diversity as well. Religion seems to pigeon-hole people in to a singular bias belief system and I love the fact that AA allows for people to meet God or their Higher Power on terms I would have never heard in a religious setting. I have enriched my life and have become more closer to God by knowing those in the fellowship than I ever did outside of it! Thank you all!
