No one should be made fun of, ever, especially here
Sometimes people don't know when to stop smacking with the 2x4, when not only is it not necessary any more, but inappropiate, I just try to remember we're all here because we're not all there, try not to take things said to you, especially on the intraweb too seriously
I also write lists, daily, weekly monthly, it helps me think, and I like to cross things off
shower go poop go to meeting wash dishes pay this and that bill
then I write out medium and long term goals, this week, this month, this year, I do this almost every day
However, we don't get to "sense of humor" until the 12 step anyway IIRC, don't sweat it lololol
How was your meeting today?
-- Edited by LinBaba on Wednesday 29th of December 2010 09:46:51 PM
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A man may criticize to laugh at himself and it will affect others favorably, but criticism or ridicule coming from another often produce the contrary effect. one careless, inconsiderate remark has been known to raise the very devil. We alcoholics are sensitive people. It takes some of us a long time to outgrow that serious handicap.
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Sorry if we seemed like we were making fun. I don't think it was intentional.
If your husband is still pressing you to have a bunch of liqor in the house Friday, is there anybody that can talk to him? A pastor or your doctor or somebody?
-- Edited by zzworldontheweb on Wednesday 29th of December 2010 11:04:56 PM
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Hi Jeanne, you're a valuable member of our forum. If someone made a reply to your comment ,they probably didn't mean to hurt your feelings, but were most likely being silly. If it's more serious than that, let me know and I'll straighten them out. :0)
"We share, in a general way, what it used to be like...what happened...and what it's like now." - How IT Works
"Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism." - AA Preamble
"However, when sharing the hopelessness of our condition, our goal should never be to depress or intimidate our prospect. To the contrary, our true message is the testimony of how God ultimately transformed our own chaotic existence into a more meaningful life than we ever had dreamed." - Rabbi Ben A.
Thanks to all of you who stick with the forum and don't run off following perceived sleights or other annoyances, even though, as just demonstrated, that can be very easy to do! You help keep me sober every day and I'm grateful you are all still here.
T'internet is not a risk free place. the written word can be misunderstood more readily than the spoken word, that's why there are emoticons up there.
But, this forum is not AA, it isn't a part of the AA toolkit. The toolkit is outlined in the Big Book.
Standards of behaviour (and spelling? - it's colour, not color, dammit!) should be maintained in any form of communications, but misunderstandings will occur, especially on t'internet.
AA cannot and must not be judged on the ramblings written here - after all how do you or I know who has a desire to stop drinking? - so should someone decide to spit the dummy out and retire less than gracefully from the cut and thrust of (sometimes barely) reasoned debate, then that is what will happen. this forum is not and should not be a replacement for face to face meetings and dialogue, should not replace working the steps with a sponsor, should not replace the basic text of Alcoholics Anonymous, should not replace service to others and most definitely must not be considered a Higher Power.
It is, as I see it, a good supplement to all of the foregoing and from personal experience, has been the life saver means of communiction in the dark watches of the night when i am in my depths of isolation - there is always someone here to kick my arse. Sometimes I don't like it, but most times I've needed it.
To have someone care enough to be blunt is something I treasure - get off the cross we need the wood has been suggested in these pages - it annoyed me but had the right effect, even if it only gets me talking to my sponsor to tell him what a bunch of callous b'stards you lot are!
Let's not judge the OP for her actions. The action she took was right for her.
Or, as my Dad often said - if you can't take a joke, you shouldn't have joined.
and finally (poor grammar, should never start a sentence with and) you'll be aware that good-bye (for that is how I was taught to spell it) is a corruption of God Be with Ye.
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AA is not for wimps. Besides, if anyone ever gets me that upset or angry on here, it only takes less than a day to realize it's because of something wrong with me.
For anyone else that is new in AA or new to this board: You will hear lots of different approaches and ideas from people in AA. It is strongly recommended that you follow suggestions of people with sobriety time. Furthermore, you should definitely pay attention if multiple people are all telling you the same thing. BUT: You can certainly choose not to pay attention or listen to what you don't agree with. Take what you want and leave the rest.
There are people on here that I know for a fact run a very different program than I do. Yet, for some reason we all stay sober. Nobody here is speaking gospel. We all follow the same basic principles and it's each person's job to weave those principles into their own value system and in a way that works for them.
I have seen people leave this board and stop going to certain meetings over the dumbest things. It is comical to me how we all used to be the people that didn't give a crap that we were getting kicked out of bars, embarrassing ourselves, wrecking our relationships and marriages, and losing friends due to alcohol, but now we want to run and hide now everytime our fragile feelings get hurt. I say this jokingly cuz I am guilty of it too.
Anyhow, I just wanted to say that there have been times here and in AA that I heard things I didn't like, but I never just left. My reward for that is that I learned things, I also have all my crazy early sobriety (and recent sobriety) musings on here look back on, and I have 2 years 2 months and 29 days sober now but who is counting :) ?
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Not sure what happened here but I do know that 'THE TRUTH CAN SET YOU FREE, BUT IT MAY MAKE YOU ANGRY FIRST!!!I always keep that in mind. It has been said"Taking things personally is the ultimate expression of selfishness because it makes the assumption that everything is about "me"!!Each day "more is revealed"Some of the things that made me most angry or defensive were the things that helped save my life..Self sponsorship did not work for me............
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Selfishness-self-centeredness! That, we think, is the root of our troubles.
Well, early recovery certainly brings out emotions we haven't felt in a while and being a bit sensitive is pretty common. And I think that's what happened here. I didn't see anyone poking fun but here we are.
If the OP were still here I would share about an experience that caused me to join here about 5 months ago. I shared at a step meeting and was basically dressed down in public. It was uncomfortable and I was hurt (or my inflated ego was bruised -- "I shared" -- "listen to how smart I am"). I posted here about that experience and was told "you shared at a step meeting on a step you haven't worked. This is life or death serious, etc."
Point being, I learned form it, and a valuable lesson it was. Teachable, a valuable commodity in this program. Even if you don't like what you hear, learn from it or choose to ignore it. I believe everyone here cares about the sobriety of everyone else here. Methods may differ but the end goal is the same, another sober 24.
I said goodbye to my first sponsor 18+ years ago and without any effort on my part today that goodbye became "Hello" again. I don't even attempt to suggest how some or many things work or are. My Higher Power can manipulate in my favor much better than the disease or a sponsor ever could and so I come to trust that sometimes when a difficulty looks like a mountain to me and after a period of time of further investigation takes on the appearance of a mole hill...if I continue to apply faith and humility the difficulty is really only a speed bump. That's a BETTERWAY for me.
Well, early recovery certainly brings out emotions we haven't felt in a while and being a bit sensitive is pretty common. And I think that's what happened here. I didn't see anyone poking fun but here we are.
Agreed. I hope she comes back.
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Me too, zz. I have left the board over trifling matters more than once over the past 6 or 7 years. Deleted accounts and everything. I think it takes some time for some of us on these forums to begin dismissing stuff that we might be offended by.
And Good Lord, we all did not get to MIP because we were well-adjusted, polite, thick-skinned, charming, healthy, interpersonal geniuses with no defects, right?
C'mon back, ABETTERWAY, whenever you're ready.
((((hugs)))) joni
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I have been absent on the board for some real "life" troubling times, but have to say I have enjoyed reading your new beginnings in the Program..
For me, I hate "Good Byes" always have, but I do accept them.
Hugs, and Prayers that you will come back one of these days and tell us more about........... more Proactive Plans as you trudge the same Road we all do.
AA is not for wimps. Besides, if anyone ever gets me that upset or angry on here, it only takes less than a day to realize it's because of something wrong with me.
Best thing I heard in a very, VERY long time, and 100% right.
Brian
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