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Hello - Hope all are well.

I cannot reach my sponsor, and am in a very rural area (i.e. no one available in this extremely small town to turn to at the moment). 

I am trying to help a Friend who is struggling, and cannot find my Big Book, nor can I find that which I am trying to share with this person in the 12 and 12.

I am looking got the part in the literature where it speaks about putting too many demands on another person or other people or too much dependence on other people, and how ultimately it drives them away?

Please help if you can - thankss and may God Bless us all,
Glenn

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Ok, I "think" I found what I was looking for (?) ... sort of. 

I whipped-out my "As Bill Sees It", which is really pretty much the only other Recovery literature I, personally,  put stock in (refer to/read).

Thanks just the same - a bit of a false alarm on my part here......

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http://anonpress.org/bb/



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Job or no job... wife or no wife... we simply do not recover until we place our dependency on God...

Or something like that. I'm posting from my droid, sorry so brief.

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In the 12 by 12 on page 53(Step 4), "Either we insist upon dominating the people we know, or we depend upon them far too much". "If we lean too heavily on people, they will sooner or later fail us, for they are human, too, and cannot possibly meet our incessant demands". I believe this whole page hits on what you are talking about. Also, on page 115-116(Step 12) and so on....there is more information on that matter. I hope that this helps. Keep Coming Back!

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Glenn wrote:

Ok, I "think" I found what I was looking for (?) ... sort of. 

I whipped-out my "As Bill Sees It", which is really pretty much the only other Recovery literature I, personally,  put stock in (refer to/read).

Thanks just the same - a bit of a false alarm on my part here......



Glenn,

You might consider a concordance to the Big Book.  It is a reference to the Big Book that lists words or phrases, and where they are found in the book.

Not a piece of liturature, but a reference like a table of contents or an index.

There are concordances online, just Google and you can look up anything.

 



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I have a reference book called '164 & More'

Its a great help when Im trying to find a spot in the BB or the 12+12.

all I need to do is have a word or phrase and it tells me where it says that in either book.

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Yup. It's a really good concordance that uses whole phrases which is very handy.

It really helps find things, doesn't it?

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Happycamper & Rainspa ! Thanks.....never heard of those before!!!!aww
Thank you!

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You're welcome Louisa!



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there is plenty of this stuff in "to the wives" An example would be the wife that incessantly nagged her husband to quit smoking before he had a foundation in recovery from alcohol and he then relapsed.

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