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I don't know where to start. I haven't called the hotline yet. I haven't gone to a meeting yet. I have admitted to myself and to my family that I am an alcoholic, which I have known for a long time but only now have really come to terms with. I have severe (and mostly well hidden - like the alcoholism) depression, and OCD (which drinking helps me cope with where medication and antidepressants can not). I would like to tell my story - because maybe being honest with people I don't know will work out better then being honest with the people I do know...and I am hoping for some support that might give me the courage to make a phone call...

I read the BB online a few months ago. One phrase jumped out at me in particular (excuse my inaccurate phrasing) "It's not the fifth drink that gets you drunk - it's the first drink". This is the story of my drinking. My first drink was when I was about 6 years old.  Sneaking. I started "drinking" at age 11. My parents believed that it was better for us (kids) to drink "supervised" then to be off getting drunk and in trouble (very liberal, but apparently not the right thing if your child is an alcoholic - and I don't blame my parents). My parents didn't know how much I drank (they thought they did) or what my mentality was when I was drinking (I was the shy, insecure, perfectionist, depressed type - and drinking did a lot for me). I tried to kill myself when I was 16. Perhaps a cry for help, but neither here nor there since I covered it up (and learned a lot about taking pills to kill yourself in the process). Even at that age it was the first drink...If you asked my what my youth was like my honest answer would be that it was one wracked with guilt, hatred for life and school, and either I honestly don't remember much of it because I was drinking or I put most of it out of my depressed mind for thoughts of failure and guilt of what I did drinking. I thought I was an alcoholic then - everyone thoroughly convinced me I wasn't - that I just needed to control my drinking - I guess THEY were not alcoholics - and didn't understand my "alcoholic mind" - and even before I read the BB, I knew that was how I was.  To be honest I am surprised I am still alive today thinking even now about how I felt about my life back then.  When I was 19 (Legal age) I went to the bar twice. I then vowed to quit drinking (by somehow convincing myself that a drink would make me physically ill) and I managed to quit drinking (anything more then an occassional social one and only one) for about five years.

**Honest Look back: I remember:drunken pit parties, winding up with people I didn't know or places I had never been, keg parties, almost being raped, toilet bowls, hiding the drinking, finding drinking buddies, stealing booze, drinking and driving, driving around drinking, run ins with police, intimidating people, experimenting with drugs (which is not my MO), "making out" with people, hangovers, out of control drunk friends - which I always helped even though I was drunk, passing out, blackouts, guilt, depression...etc. I am sure there was some fun involved at the time...but I don't remember it.



My twenties were different. i had a long term relationship. Four years, and coped with stresses fairly well. We lost a baby - six months later we were done, because neither of us could cope with it. Still I only drank rarely - but I suppose that was the start of the snowball. I coped. I lived with a few girlfriends (younger) and had a job working out of my town.  The "party" cycle started...work hard away...come home party...work hard away...come home and party. I didn't drink much at work, because I had a labor job, and was tired and had to work early, plus I usually got to be the DD and took that pretty seriously back then. So when I came home it was time to "tie one on" and relax and go dancing/partying. All weekend...as much as we could drink - as much as we could party - going back to work totally burnt out and hungover...then staying sober...then doing it again. Not much guilt about drinking. I was an adult! And it didn't affect anyone but me (and perhaps the men I didn't care about) - I was exploring my life in some ways and drinking was just a part of that. I had finally gotten some self esteem and I was happy, but I know where the self esteem came from - a lovely bottle full of blue nirvana (AkA REV). I had many bad relationships and many bad (and sometimes dangerous) "encounters" that have since been put out of my mind.  The bad times in my twenties weren't (and still aren't) worth remembering. Good time : Went to college. Aced my program with highest GPA - The only accomplishment I can bring to my therapist for my Twenties - I was damn proud of myself - and I did it while drinking and having fun in my off time!! Got back together with the Ex. He came back from his break an abusive alcoholic. Took me almost two years to figure that out. I left him Christmas Day after he tried to take me out again (which I can look back honestly now and say I pushed for it so I could get out).  Went straight into a "knight in shining armor" relationship with someone else. Long story short, another controlling horrible depressive relationship. We eventually moved away from our families to a different town (a way for him to control me).  He was controlling and had a drinking problem - showed his violent verbally and emotionally abusive side - didn't work or take responsibility for anything - and after a lot of my money went missing I found out (after the fact) that he was a gambler. And now for the Thirties...

**Honest Look Back: I remember: working hard - drinking hard, dancing (oh how I loved the music and dancing!), self esteem - feeling good, shots - lots of shots, short term boyfriends, drunken sexcapades, drunken fights (boyfriend), drunk dialing, women, long nights, dealing with hangovers,  more then enough money for the bars, blackouts (of which I am glad), confronting my parents drunk, sleeping, fun with my GF's, liberation, more happiness then sadness.... etc


When I was Thirty years old I had my first child. I didn't drink when I was pregnant for him, I would have a non - alcohol beverage when I was in a group situation (admittedly as many of them as I could) because everyone in my family and almost every person I know drinks (some of them harder then others). I had a beautiful perfect little boy. He was a great baby. I had a nervous breakdown after 6 months - I was diagnosed with "PPD" but I knew my depression went farther back then this - and had more to do with my relationship then with my baby. This was the beginning of my battle with anti depressants. I don't remember my 30th B-Day party, between alcohol and antidepressants, my life had become surreal. My son's father was not the person for me - our relationship fell apart and I found the courage (with the support of my family) to leave him. When my son was 16 months old I moved back to the job that I had in a different town. I did well coping being away from my family with my little one: working - taking care of my little man - wine with dinner - the occasional party night out - dinner parties - friends - playdates. Things were final with baby's father and I was free. I went back to school - night school - worked full time and was a single mom and did school full time at nights. I coped - I drank - but my priorities were always in check. Graduated my progam with straight A+ GPA. I was a fantastic functional alcholic! Even with the alcohol my life was good, and in check, and everything was good - even me!

I can't divulge my life from that point right now. The old saying "TMI" and I am not sure how anonymous I would be if I divulged the last three years of my life.  All I can say is it has been a downward spiral.  I have been looking into AA for two months. I admitted my problem to the man in my life on Thursday - it was a drunk fight and he was mad about that - but he told me two days after "We will work through it." with a hug and a kiss. I told my parents then too and my mother assures me I am NOT an alcoholic - I don't drink in the morning - I am just a binge drinker and need to control myself. I talked (cried) to my Therapist about it on Friday - he thinks AA is a good idea. I spent the day away from my family friday and cried, and thought, and apologized.  I didn't have a problem not drinking Friday because I still had the alcohol in my body from the night before.  I went the weekend without drinking even in a social/stressful situation where I would normally drink - bitchy...hid the shakes...tried my best with all the self knowledge I have. Should have hid at home. Woke up this morning, alone with the kids.  Had shakes so bad, and vomiting, and just wanted a drink. Started reading this message board. Tried to call my Mom around noon...but she didn't answer. Found (yes searched for and found) a beer. Better. Started writing this. Drank another beer. Talked to my mom. She is pretty sure I am not an alcoholic. Told her she was wrong. Mix for the vodka in the fridge was frozen. So now it is thawed and I am on my second - now third. Light with water. I am physically better now - and emotionally worse; and trying to figure out how I can hide my drinking from my boyfriend - I know he will be disappointed - and I need to have as much as I can before he gets here. My new motto has been "There is no bad that can come from NOT having a drink" but apparently my mind has ways of convincing me that my motto really doesn't mean much. Three days sober and back to being a drunk already. It might be pathetic, but I guess that is my life.

I want help. I have known for a long time that I need help. My OCD is disabling me from making a call that needs to be made. If you read this and see maybe who you once were please help me become who you are now. Thank you.
Please help me hurtingmomma@live.ca



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And I have to add to this, as I reread it. that I had a "normal" life...Good parents, sibling rivalry, good friends, lots of (perhaps missed) opportunity...As bad as it sounds there was a lot of normalcy, and a lot of good.  But with my depression and alcoholism, I can only see that from a my own self revelation and understanding. I would only expect someone who has been through the program to understand what I have written here.

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Hey, momma,

Lots of what you write rings a bell with me, that's for sure. You are drinking now because withdrawal from alcohol is painful. It can actually be dangerous.

It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks of your drinking--YOU know it's hurting you and eating you alive. Forget about mom's opinion.

My suggestion is that you make the phone call to a detox center. They get calls all the time from people exactly like you--exactly like us when we were you.

AA works miracles, but you have to get the alcohol out of your system before you can start REALLY getting well. Can someone stay with your son if you go away for a week or so?

Trust me, this can be the greatest gift you ever give him--a sober mom.

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Incidentally, I was an "every day" drinker. I grew up in a "Leave it to Beaver" household, nobody else in my family (immediate or extended) has any problem with alcohol and addiction. I have a professional degree and license. Never got a DWI, never got arrested, never lost a job, never lost a relationship due to drinking.

By the end of my own drinking, I felt desperate and hopeless. I've been sober almost two years now.

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Welcome sister. I used to drink a pint and a half of bourbon every day because I had blues, was bored, because "life" had treated me shitty that day etc etc., and I often felt like you do. Strange how I was always the unluckiest person I knew!

It sounds like you're drinking to suppress withdrawal symptoms.

I feel like I have to be honest and tell you that it will NOT get any better. Your body is telling you it "needs" alcohol and that you feel "better" after a drink, but all that does is suppress the symptoms for a while longer. They just don't go away, they just get worse. At some point they get frightening enough that no human has the willpower to stop or even think rationally. That's when you can endanger yourself.

If you have a doctor (primary care, psychiatrist, anything), or a counselor, you might want to march in there and come totally clean about exactly how much you're drinking. They can get you into a setting where you can get dried out and can help you get past the withdrawal symptoms. Take a week off work if you have to and make up some story about having an ulcer or something. It's nobody's business but yours.

AFTER that's done, you can work on figuring out why you're drinking and how to keep from starting again (one step at a time!). I think you'll find most of us probably drank for similar reasons!  I think you'll also find that all those other problems, that seem so insurmountable now, become a LOT easier to handle after you've stopped drinking.  It's kinda like a miracle actually!

Good luck!


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Lexie, I just realized that what I wrote mirrored your post almost exactly. Sorry!

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Welcome. Good advice has been given here. A detox under medical supervision could be what you need.

Please know I was where you are 5 1/2 months ago. I tried to stop on a Saturday after nearly 29 years of at least a six pack EVERY night, and I mean every night. The last 10 years it was at least a 12 pack, usually more. That Saturday in February was awful -- shakes, skin crawling and by 3 AM thought I was dying and no alcohol in the house. I found vanilla extract and listerene, drank it, and that got me through until 10 AM when a liquor store opened nearby. Quickly downed seven drinks. Slept for a bit, back to the liquor store for a 30 pack. Another 18.

I write this to show you there is hope.

The insanity of this disease is that this wasn't the end. I was on a roll and kept it up until Wendesday when a friend took me to the hospital to detox for four days.

I was lucky, the mental obsession diminished, and through re-hab and the rooms of AA and working with my sponsor I've been sober ever since. If you knew me 6 months ago you never would have thought this was possible. But I'm here, and I'm sober, and it's truly a miracle. It's taken hard work one day at a time, an open mind and a belief in a higher power but the rewards have been abundant. I have my self respect back.


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Hey Momma,

It sounds like you are ready to take the 1st step of AA (Admitted we where alcoholic and our lives where unmanagable). Right now Alcohol is not the problem, just your current solution.

The past is gone, aLL WE HAVE IS TODAY, I hope you have a moment of clairity and make the call (or at least write the email) for help.

I related to almost your whole story, my parents didn't drink much and I had a good childhood, worked and partied hard through college.

All the black-outs, hangovers/ sickness, relationship/family issues, guilt, fear, remorse, self loathing are standard things that most of us had.

Lexi gave some good advise about detox, I would add that after you are sober a short time that you see your Psyc and tell him your situation, possibly they will want to tweek or change your meds based on how you are feeling.

I got sober @ 24 yrs old and will soon celebrate 26 years of continuous soberiety. I hope you don't miss out on the miracle!!

Rob

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what I have found in my short time in recovery is talking to other alcoholics has shown me that I am not alone. The effects of this disease are very devastating to the mind and body. It manifests itself in ways you don't have a clue about until you accept the alcoholism and begin to do the work of dealing with it. For me, like you, I was an alcoholic very early in life. Because I had the idea all that time that people become alcoholics I rationalized I wasn't one because there had been no fundamental changes in my alcoholism throughout adulthood. If there were changes I might have recognized them but since there were none I didn't think I was an alcoholic. The problem is I was an alcoholic since a child. Like you, I've had many accomplishments and matured in many ways. Because of the alcoholism I remain a child in many other ways. Make sure you are taken care of physically no matter what it takes (stop at nothing). Once you are no longer sick physically you can go about the spiritual journey of actually discovering yourself in light of the alcoholism. Again, these are the words of someone who has been in recovery for only a week after 25 long years of alcoholic denial.  I expect we can, due to our life experience, build the things that are missing rather quickly if we give in to our higher power and follow the process.  The ability to create those successes despite our inability to manage our lives is a tremendous asset.


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Hi H-momma, welcome to the board, we're glad that you're here. smile.gif

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Hello Tanya and welcome .

I haven't called the hotline yet. I haven't gone to a meeting yet.

Tanya, calling the hotline does NOT mean you have to do anything else. It is entirely your choice. You can just call and have a simple chat. No pressure.  Just making that call and having that chat may help as you have NOTHING to lose. NOTHING. I promise.

SHOULD you choose to want to chat face to face with another AA or go to a meeting they will take it from there. I understand the system is pretty similar world wide.

Here In England the 12 Steppers are incredibly experienced at knowing how to help alcoholics in all kinds of situations. We will often visit people in their homes IF THEY WISH (in pairs) and it is normally very clear when we need to invlove a third party detox.  It can be dangerous going cold turkey but it is also astonishing the amount of alcohol that can be drunk and still be able to go cold turkey.

Just making that call does NOT mean you have to go to a meeting or that people  are going to suddenly become experts and try to advise you with your OCD.

Sending you all best wishes & lots of love. One thing at a time.......as has been said a call to a detox centre maybe the way you choose to go...........that's another option.  Whatever anybody else thinks, you know what your heart is telling you.  I truly feel you would find that call immensely comforting.
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Also remember that when you call the hotline, you get to talk to another alcoholic who is happy to answer any questions (even ones that feel like "stupid questions") about what meetings are like, what to expect in AA, etc. It can make going to your first meeting a lot less scary.

Good luck and welcome!

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Yes, just like GG pointed out......you get to speak to another AA.......that is the wonderful thing about the AA hotline. I found it hugely comforting........hugely so.....the identification was immense.....
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Tanya,

I was where you are now.  At the end of my drinking I was drinking 1-1/2 to 2 cases of beer a day.  I needed medical detox.  I quit drinking on April 21,2000; went thru the DT's for 3 days at home and then begged my husband at the time to take me to the rehab center.  I stayed for 11 days inpatient and did 6 months out patient.  Then I went into therapy; 10 years of therapy.  I have PTSD and suffer from major depression, am an alocholic and an addict.  I can say I have been sober since and it isn't always peaches and cream, but it is a heck of a lot better than being ashamed, drunk or high.

I have just started going to meetings and talking a little.  You don't have to say anything at the meetings, just sit and listen. Everyone at AA knows how you feel and where you are coming from.

The most important thing you can do for yourself and your son it to get sober.  I know how hard it is.  I know the feelings you have when you physically need that drink.  Please find the strenght to call AA and just talk to the person that answers the phone.  You are not alone. 

Take care and keep coming back.

Susan B.

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Hi Tanya, and welcome. You have already received many good responses, so mostly I just want to add that I'm glad you are seeing a therapist and I hope you have been completely honest with him/her. Calling the hotline, going to detox and/or AA, all of these are great first steps. You have shown the ability to look at yourself and it sounds like you are at the turning point, so its time to take action now. There is lots of love, support and good direction in AA if you want it. Hopefully you will get to a point where you can talk about the last three years to someone - but that time will come. There are many people in recovery dealing with additional issues like OCD and depression, and good doctors who understand these and alcoholism can help as well. Keep up on this board and let us know what happens, we are here for you!

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hurtingmomma wrote:

I have severe (and mostly well hidden - like the alcoholism) depression, and OCD (which drinking helps me cope with where medication and antidepressants can not).



It's been my experience that if the depression and OCD are real problems (and not alcohol induced) the alcohol is only making them worse.  Using a depressant (alcohol) to cope with depression is counter intuitive (for me it's pure insanity!).  I had the same problems before I quit drinking.  When I started my journey of recovery the depression and OCD went away.  I thought alcohol was helping me cope, but it was only making the depression worse.

But that's just me...
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