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I've never posted anything so personal online before but I am desperate and have nowhere else to turn.

I've been dating this man for about 9 months and before we started dating I had heard he had an issue with drinking. 2 DUI's, relationship issues, etc.  By the time we started dating, he assured me that drinking wasn't a problem for him.  He said he only drank on weekends.
So on our first date he has a drink and then starts explaining to me that since he drank today, he will have more later. I didn't understand why he felt the need to tell me that..but whatever.
Then I noticed that everytime I would come over on the weekend, he would drink a small bottle of vodka by himself plus a six pack of beer.  He would be very drunk and say hurtful things to me. The next day he would always apologize.
Recently things seem to be taking a nosedive downwards. He drank so much this past weekend that he threw up...and as he was throwing up, he was asking me to pour him more vodka. It was horrible. Also, I would hear him get up in the middle of the night and finish up vodka or first thing in the morning he would do that too. I could hear him quietly unscrewing the cover so as not for me to hear it.
He would be drunk from friday night til sunday morning....binge drinking. He would take breaks in between to sober up to run errands.
Then he said I was enabling him because I would bring vodka over from time to time.  I am able to have a drink or two and stop. I enjoy a drink once in a while.
So now we are at a crossroads in our relationship.  I was supposed to move in with him prior to this weekends binge.  I dont know if I should end things or keep going.  I love him but he doesnt think he has a problem with it.

can you please offer advice?

Much appreciated.

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I personally cannot offer advise on relationships, and there is no way I can determine if someone else has a problem with alcohol. Honestly, though, if he doesn't have a problem, then how can you enable him? Can't be an enabler unless there is some issue to enable, does that make sense?

On a more personal note--is that how you really want to spend every weekend?

You may want to check out alanon. They're the folks that have had the joy of dealing with spouses and friends and family members who have drinking problems. Perhaps they can answer your questions with more understanding and a different view point than I can.  I wish you well, truly.   Chris

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Maxmom, welcome to the board. What you're describing sounds like near late stage alcoholism. This is a progressive disease, so what you're seeing will, most likely, get worse. Why would you be attracted to someone like this and likewise stay with them and consider moving in with them? Does all that sound like good decision making? Even if your BF wanted to get sober (which it does not sound like he does) he'd have about a 1 in 20 chance of staying sober. With that said, and knowing that things will probably get worse, if he keeps drinking, wouldn't you want to find someone healthier to play house with? We are used to hearing wives with children and shared financial obligations, making it very difficult for them to leave the abusive alcoholic, describe these kind of problems with their husbands, but you don't even live with the man and have no obligations. Do you really want to be tangled in a dead end situation and a potentially dangerous one at that? I would suggest some time away from the relationship to discuss it with some close friends and make some good decisions about what's best for you.
There I've said everything but "Run Forrest Run", did I do ok Wren? lol

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Yes, you did!  This is such blatant alcoholic behavior, but I was afraid to come right out and say it. So, being wiser than I appear, I decided to just let you say it. It worked!!!!!!!aww



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But if you DON'T decide to run, better check out Al-Anon.

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Hi Maxsmom & Welcome!

No, I cannot offer you any advice. I can share a relevant part of my story and it's outcome...but that's it.

I used to drink only on (fill in the sorry rationalization of your choice here) and when I did I drank a lot. I had earned it. I had a job and I paid my bills and I wasn't hurting anybody. I had people who loved and trusted me. I was doing fine. Pulling my own weight.
Then I started breaking my rules but that was okay, because I made the rules. A few people got mad at me, so I hid my bahavior. It was mine to hide, after all. Didn't EVERYBODY drink like I did at some time or another?

Then I screwed up. Turns out there's a whole mess of rules already in place and other people tended to abide by those rules instead of mine, and expected me to do the same.

It was made clear to me by my employer, my wife and my friends that if I didn't do something serious about this problem I would be homeless, jobless, childless and friendless.
I had a choice to make.

I made a choice. Several. Over and over again. Mostly good, too. I took some serious steps; twelve of them to be exact, and I take them over and over again. I walked away from my rules and chose a better set of rules; ones that were tailor-made just for drunks like me.

Now my job is secure, I have new friends, my wife respects me and my kids trust me. I am happier than I ever thought possible. Ever.

My wife always LOVED me...but for a long time she didn't RESPECT me. That hurt her for many years - being with a man she loved but didn't respect.

That's what it was like, what happened, and what it's like now...in a general fashion.


Peace,
Rob



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For sure alcoholic behavior.

I would also suggest some al-anon meetings, the people close to the alcoholic also become sick at some point and need help.

If you care about him, I suggest you get out of the relationship and tell him why. You can't change him, but this may insire him to want to change himself.

The practicing alcoholic's primary relationship is with the drink, you will always be second to the drink and drinking lifestyle.

He needs to recover and begin to love himself before he is capable of loving someone else.

I was always told, never fall in love with anything that's not capable of loving you back.

I hope this helps.

Rob

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I like that Rob ... never fall in love with anything that is incapable of loving you back.

Maxsmom,
I would also suggest Alanon. I would definately NOT move in with this guy. I would detach myself from the relationship until you see that he is getting help.

Do you really want to live with an alcoholic ??

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Rob,

I really like what you wrote a lot. Well said...

Maxsmom... er... 2 DUIs, broken relationships... I can see the robot on "Lost in Space" flinging his arms saying, "Warning, warning... danger, danger."

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Maxmom...I suspect he does know he has a problem or else he would not have made the statement about you "enabling him." It also sounds as though he has probably been told he has a problem and all about what being "enabled" means. So...basically, while wren is right that we can't say for sure if someone is alcoholic, I know from my own experience that i put everyone else though hell not accepting my own alcoholism and expecting others to take care of me. I also know that until I accepted I was an alcoholic I never "had a problem with alcohol" even though I was stumbling around drunk every night just about and having health issues from drinking. The most frustrating thing you will put up with from an active alcoholic is the incapacity for them to be honest because they can and will drink their guilty conscience away or think a "sorry" with no behavioral change afterwards is going to fix things. I feel for you and the difficulties you are faced with. It is hard to make these decisions when you love someone.

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Thank you all so much for your replies. I have a lot to think about. I just cant get the bad images out of my head of him being so sick yet asking for more alcohol. The smell of the vodka coming thru his pores when he slept at night.
He learned the language when he had to go to alcohol school or something to do with his DUI's.
I think for my own sanity I need to step aside and let him know I love him and if he gets help I would be there for him.

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Mm,

My first husband was an alcoholic who got sober a year before we got married--he got sober in AA and 30 years later has not picked up another drink.

After my marriage ended, I met a new guy and fell head over heels. We met in a bar, and we had champagne in bed the first morning after I stayed at his house. I thought, how romantic! Shortly after we met, I ran across a copy of the AA "Big Book" in his bedroom. I asked, "Um, why do you have this?" He explained that he "once" had a problem with drinking, but he took care of it, and it was now "under control."

We became "drinking buddies" and he moved into my apartment. He wound up almost dying from acute alcohol withdrawal several months later. (Of course, having lost his job, he had NO health insurance and was being told he might need a liver transplant.) He got back into AA, I got back into Al-Anon.

Feeling overly optimistic because my first husband had stayed sober, I married this one. A few short months later we were living in another state, he went back to drinking, and I left him because he was unwilling to choose recovery. Big, complicated mess.

There were huge red flags all over the place, and I ignored them. Some recovering alcoholics are a good bet, others aren't, but one who is still drinking and, moreover, blaming you for "enabling" is not someone with whom anyone is going to have a happy relationship. If you choose to remain involved in a relationship with him, I strongly recommend Al-Anon. I would be VERY leery of complicating your life to the extent of actually living with him, though. That makes it much harder to simply walk away when/if you decide you need to do that for yourself.

It is very tough when you've come to care about someone to simply throw in the towel and walk away. But it doesn't seem that he has any interest, at this point, in changing. Please take care of yourself above all else.

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Alcoholism or no, it's probably the most common relationship pattern in the world for us to fall in love with the person we *want* our partner to be, or believe he has the potential to be, not the person he actually is -- then we set about trying to change him into that person he *could* be. You know how that story usually ends.

If you choose to continue your relationship and/or move in with him, please be honest with yourself about who he is -- someone who appears (from your description) to have a problematic relationship with alcohol that is an issue now and may become an even more serious issue in the future.

Only you can decide whether that's the path you want, but just be realistic about what it looks like.

GG

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