Wishing you a Happy & SOBER 4th of July! One day/hour/minute at a time. It's good to be free...kind of.
For my English friends...nothin' personal. How were WE supposed to know we were sitting on all this gold, oil, glacier-enriched soil and iron? It was about taxes and religion...honest.
Actually I have nothing to say historically. In the late 1700's MY European ancestors were also attempting to colonize the world, just under different flags. My ancestors didn't see US soil until the early 1900's.
I'm a southerner...and I love the fourth...it represents Thomas Jefferson (A Virginian,which are my roots.) Call me a Rebel,yes I am... We floated the river today and ate steak and salad Billy Yank...
My WWII father used to say the Civil War in the south will not be over for another 100 yrs. I believe that. It's getting better, but we aren't there, yet.
Don't give me a hard time...over my roots...too many southerners went west and you yanks/Scandanavians/Germans/Polocks/Italians,etc. migrated to the mid west. The south is full of Scots-Irish from the old country. Go to a graveyard in the south and you'll find "Smith and Jone's" not Alzelbetti's and such. European's are most of us...
Black people? Yes. Descendents. I love the south! Go to Charleston,S.C.
Lovely and wonderful place. Watch "The Patriot"...Your prejudices will go away.
Mahalo for the sober 4th wish Rob...I was also pretty much sane and sober on the 3rd too and HP and me willing the same thing at the same time I'll continue to be sober later on. As for nationality, that's another story in itself and has nothing to do with being sober for me. Malama Pono...
Good for you...You are focused Jerry F. How easy it is to get side tracked.
I hope you have a very happy 4th!
At home, I have my "Dell" We floated the river today and are camping right now. I have my lap top. I can't wait til morning...we'll have coffee,bacon,fried potatoes,scambled eggs, sliced tomatoes, and the works...I am soaking wet right now and having a sober blast!
Wish you were here...I wish I was there...
-- Edited by janet on Monday 5th of July 2010 02:23:32 AM
This board consists primarily of British & Americans with a lovely sprinkling of Australian, South African, Canadian and Irish mixed in.
Having spent some time in England, working shoulder-to-shoulder with Her Majesty's Royal Air Force, I reserve the right to be a bit "familiar" with English element of our fellowship. (Though not Scottish or Welsh, as I spent no significant time in either of those countries)
Common English slang for ANY American from EITHER side of the Mason/Dixon line is "Yank." Common American slang, 15 years ago anyway, for the English is "Bloke."
Among friends, these terms are used with familiarity and affection. I.E.; bandmates, teammates, leaguemates, etc. If the word follows an expletive such as "bloody" or "damned" than the term is no longer affectionate.
Now, Yanks, mark your calendars... Friday November 5th is Guy Fawkes Night. A while back some angry (and possibly pissed) Bloke tried to blow up the House of Parliament. He failed and was executed.
Now...I don't know why exactly...but the English celebrate the anniversary of this action with fireworks and effigy-burning. I never quite understood it...but it's a holiday. So, mark your calendars and wish our Bloke friends a Safe, Happy & Sober Guy Fawkes Night on November 5th.
Aye Rob...you cause me to remember when I worked with NASA in communications one of the requirements I just loved about the job was staying in contact with the English. Their sense of humor is absolutely the driest and the best. The moseyed over to Australia and the sense of humor went with them along with the practice of drinking. Anyway it came across wet or dry it was funny as hell.
Intriguing that my american brothers and sisters celebrate the anniversary of their refusal to pay taxes and submit to the political regime that bore them. So you claim independance. Why then do so many of you insist on coming back to the 'old country' cluttering up our roads, chewing your gum and wondering why everything is so small?
I'm given to understand that although your representative signed the treaty, our representative was in fact, an imposter and had no right or authority to agree to your spurious claims for independance.
Therefore your claims of independance are null and void and by my reckoning you owe us back taxes to the tune of almost 24 guineas, at an annual percentage rate of 3.2% over 238 years.
Prompt payment would be appreciated as we are currently struggling to cover our own borrowing and national debt. Indeed, I recently received a tax demand that would, it seem, clear the national debt of a small african dominion.
We accept American Express, Barclaycard, certified bankers cheques and cash. By the way, you owe us a few bob for some spoilt tea as well.
You wonder why we celebrate the anniversary of Guido Ffolkes ( a well known italian cornishmen, famed for failing to blow up the HoP). When your national football team is a rank and useless as ours, then any excuse for a party. when will we see players who are proud to put the shirt on rather than looking for the big pay check. Where are the Stanley Matthews, the Charltons, the Moores, the Nobby Stiles these days.
Let me be the manager of England, I'd sack the lot of them, go to the local recreation ground and pick me 22 lads who play their hearts out for their pub team on a Sunday, give 'em average normal working man's wages and let them get on with kicking lumps out of Johnny Foreigner, who, it must be said, learnt football from us then the swine got good at it - same with cricket, same with rugby.
and while we're on with rugby, what all this business of helmets and padding that you chaps use over there - in my day, a jock strap and scrum cap was considered effette, never mind all this gladiatorial armour!
Harrrrrrrrrrrumph!
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Bill - I was waiting for you, Mate! You're right. If the treaty is null and void I will in fact cough up my share of 24 guineas. I think I still have a few quid in my duffel bag.
Oh, and don't forget about how we Yanks insist on bitching about the food & weather and returning our rental cars in shambles. Our ignorance of your roadways also requires your road crews to spend countless hours painting "look left" and "look right" so we don't get creamed by the taxies.
BUT... London has the Royal Museum of Modern Art AND St. Paul's Cathedral. St. Paul's Cathedral trumps every single eclesiastical structure in our country for grandeur and genius.
Football? I could give a rat's arse. Rugby? I wish it would catch on here. NFL American Football? The talent pool has become so saturated with super-men that the plays are boring. Now COLLEGE Am. Foottball is fun to watch! 3 OR 4 rockstars on a team and you get some plays that are absolutely off the hook!
cathedrals - 10 a penny over here, Liverpool even has a spare one, London? Not really the centre of the universe, but a great place to live, work and visit (I say that so all the lunnuners will stay there and stop coming oop north to buy up all the cheap houses.)
museums - can't move for the durn things.
scenery - what do you want? we got it all, and mostly within an hour from where you are - did you know that there is nowhere in GB more than 70 miles from the coast?
But then again America has things we don't have. You have route 66 (we got the A66), you have Highway 1, we got the A1.
You got music, lot's and lot's of it (but we got Punk!) You got big skies, big roads and a big country and california and tennessee and memphis and new orleans and I'd love to take a trip over there, but to see all I'd want to see, I'd need more than a fortnight.
I have been told by everyone I've spoken to who has been that tourists get treated like royalty over there - contrast this with over here - as soon as your accent is heard, the price doubles - welcome to rip off the tourist land.
Must get my passport renewed.
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as soon as your accent is heard, the price doubles - welcome to rip off the tourist land.
OOOHHHHH! that is SO not true!!!!!!!! (well not always!!!) Please keep visiting us !!!!
The headline of one our newspapers before the England v USA World Cup football match was....
"Let's spank the Yanks!".....and yes ....it was said with affection of course!
Spank the Yanks???? Got to be able to spot something before you can spank it ....England couldn't even spot the bloody ball............Geez.........EMBARRASSING !
Well Bill, as a resident of Tennessee, you are welcome in my home anytime you happen to be on this side of the pond. Funny, all this talk about Yanks. Here in the south, the "Yankees" are the ones that come down here (from the north) on vacation or to visit. If, like I did you stay, you become a "Damn Yankee". All of this stemming from the civil war of course, I simply remind them all who won the war :)~ and that either shuts them up, or confuses the hell out of em'.
I spent 10 days in London and the surrounding countryside, and loved it. I hope someday to visit my distant homeland, the Emerald Isle, to search out my biological family (Mothers side). My Fathers side all came from the south, (here in the states) and are all either dead, in prison, or in recovery...all due to alcohol and drugs. Guess I was "doomed" from the start.