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I just very recently got this link via email from a recovering friend who got it from
a relative.  For those of you who are interested in "first seeds" of recovery it is very
inlightening.  For others maybe not.  Our fight against this disease is an old one and
has included many many people in and out of the program.  We all agree that the
fight must be fought and won one day at a time. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/20/health/20drunk.html

I once attended a meeting with the sole survivor of the early USAF treatment program
which employed LSD as an tool.   I am currently sponsoring a member who has recently
pulled himself away from the use of methadone which is being used for the same
reason. 

Enjoy the link.

smile


-- Edited by StPeteDean on Friday 30th of April 2010 04:44:40 PM

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Cool.  Now to track down some deadly nightshade lol.  Don't think I'll be trying this any time soon.  I'm not into hallucinations.  Interesting article though.

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LOL...That was right on and when I read it I was thinking "Easier softer way"...

The psycological profile for alcoholic stated that I am a risk taker...I will always
need that marker in my sobriety.  Deadly and often fatal...Doesn't that fit?
Thanks brother...always good to read your responses.   smile

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Jerry,

If the nightshade don't work a little hemlock might stop the drinking forever. LOL

The Navy as far as I know did not use LSD but the treatment centers always administered Antabuse.  I never had it I am one of those strange alcoholics that never went to treatment.  I went straight to AA and stayed. 

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Antabuse is used for:
Treating alcoholism.

Antabuse is an alcohol-abuse deterrent. It works by blocking the breakdown of alcohol, causing unpleasant side effects (eg, vomiting, upset stomach) when even a small amount of alcohol is consumed.
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Larry,
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NUTS = Not Using The Steps



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Jerry F wrote:



LOL...That was right on and when I read it I was thinking "Easier softer way"...

The psycological profile for alcoholic stated that I am a risk taker...I will always
need that marker in my sobriety.  Deadly and often fatal...Doesn't that fit?
Thanks brother...always good to read your responses.   smile



Yup, easier, softer way.  The sad thing is, back in the day I'm sure I would have tried it.  But then, after finding a way to stop drinking I would think to myself "Well now I can drink as much as I want whenever I want and just go get the cure when I need it".  How's that for insanity?  :P

 



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I am starting to really LOVE the historical stuff about AA, and about treatment for alcoholism on the whole. Good lord, the things we used to have to go through to get help. We've come a LONG WAY, Baby!!!

I was telling you about some of the historcal, well A LOT of the historical stuff around here where I am (Akron, OH area), and I am going to actually get to take a yoga class (trying to learn how to meditate) at the very place where Dr. Bob first met Bill W. It was Henrietta Seiblerling's Gate House at Stan Hewitt Hall (it is a mansion owned by I think the Fireston tire and rubber family, which was booming in the 30's, and Henrietta was a philanthropist who introduced Dr. Bob to Bill W. at a dinner at that very place.) Although not an alcoholic herself, she played a great part in helping to get alcoholism recognized and the program being known better, through word of mouth.

I am right now getting my Group Therapy at Intensive outpatient Treatment at the very same hospital where Sister Ignatia helped Dr. Bob and Bill W. to start treating alcoholics in the hospital. (St. Thomas Hospital). Dr. Bob owrkwed there as a proctologist. The circle I sit in for AA-based therapy, sits in the very same SPOTS which were then part of a Ward for alcoholics, where Dr. Bob and Bill W. first went from room to room sharing their message and therby staying sober. Amazing stuff, and I am starting to have a deeper kind of gratitude as a result. Though the hopsital has been changed around and remodeled a bunch of times, they purposely keep the drunk ward in the very same spot it was back in the 30's, for its historical significance.

Anyway, I am going to go to the Gate House where Bill and Bob met for the very first time, in June, ino the lavish gardens that are kept there, for yoga. I will be so thrilled. I will be thinking recovery, and feeling so much spirit around me, I just know it. I will take pictures, if I am allowed, and post some of them here. It is just so neat to see and WALK THROUGH some of the cool stuff, the "hallowed ground" if you will, where it all began.

Thanks for whetting my appetite, Jerry, for more AA history! I will certainly share my historical AA experiences here, and any pictures I can manage. Thanks for starting this topic, I hope it continues to grow as new and interesting stuff is found and posted.

Joni



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