I've had a really maniac couple of weeks what with (mostly) work and all. I work next week but then I get a week holiday time (with the weekends that makes 9 whole days)
i've been on the road at site meetings for 9 of the last 10 working days and done around 2500 miles since the beginning of the month.
Fortunately I've got a new car from work and it's really comfortable and easy to drive and I've been able to get back home every night, only missing one regular meeting.
I was so tired yeserday that I slept until noon, then shortly after I got up, my (estranged) wife came round. I think this is where I'me going. She wanted to talk about her relationship with our son and daughter. So we talked, hell, we even role played a bit, she was the Mum and i was the son.
My son and daughter, who I love very much and miss to heartbreak, will have no contact with me. my wife wants them to and can't accept that they won't and that I accept that they won't.
She said things like - I hate my life as it is. I hate what you have done to this family, i wish that the kids could see that you've changed and the cruncher - I wish they'd let me live with you!
I wish she would live with me too, but i recognise that she feels the need to make sure that the (adult) children are reasonably secure in their future - but then as she seems to be unable to tell them what she wants, then i suppose they'll continue to blindly live off Mum and mum will continue to support them.
I've done my bit and more. I've tried to ensure that my son and daughter are not materially disadvantaged by my absence, hence I have been able to contribute financially to the running of the family home, i've kept out of the way, i've learnt to mind my own business. I try to let them make their own mistakes.
My Son is 18 and works at an outdoor sports shop, is an adult instructor with the Marine Cadets, is learning to drive and is trying to work up the courage to try something where he might fail (i.e. Join the Royal Marines) - he pays his way as best he can - he pays 20% of his wage as board money to his Mum and is never late. Sure, sometimes he ends up with no money at the end of the week and borrows a few bob from his Mum for bus fares, but this is becoming less frequent. He sure doesn't earn enough money to live independantly just yet, but he's working on it.
my daughter is 23 and is a technical manager at a music venue. She's on a good salary and this is supplemented by cash jobs for rock bands. She has a car, pays a flat £200 a month rent to her Mum and is in debt to around £15k (student loans etc.). Sure she could live independantly, if she was willing to accept a bed sit, rahter than a 4 bedroom centrally heated house and a garden. She spends money like water, but so far as she continues to pay the rent, her debts are her affairs surely - this is what I suggest to my wife anyway.
I haven't spoken to my son in over 3 years - I've written amends to him, but I believe his sister intercepted the mail and tore it up - at least that what she told me. I wrote amends to my daughter and she rang me after a few weeks to firstly wish me an early, painful and prolonged death for all the harm I have caused her. an hour later she called again and was able to tell me just how I have affected her life, how she has no forgiveness in her, how she cannot and will not trust me and to finally close off all communication with me. (oh and also to tell me that she intercepts all my son's mail and tears up anything from me, including that snivelling, grovelling apology). Let's just say that she has closed the door on me, but I'm not going to either lock it or kick it down.
Oh boy, this was a long one. Not sure what it was all about. haven't thought about a drink at all - that won't make any damn thing better - ah yes, just read back and realised that I'm acting as my wife's sponsor / counsellor - that can't be good. But when you love someone as i love my wife and children, surely you want to help them grow and have a better life? that's not wrong is it?
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No it's not. Sounds like you are doing the best you can to do the right thing and "clean house" as they say. I am not sure why your children have so much hate locked in them for you. It certainly can't be helping them to function better in any way. They said to make ammends except when to do so would hurt others. They have to recover from their own hurt before those ammends are going to mean anything. Either way, one important person is recognizing your changes and that's great. More importantly, you know you changed. Mom/ex sounds like a bit of an enabler and they have focused all the hatred on you when she is also part of what happened in the past and what is still happening. Maybe her going to Alanon would set a tone for the kids. Dunno. Either way, sounds like some difficult stuff to be going through. Prayers for you. Stay strong.
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Good to see you here, thought about writing a PM, about 10 times, but now that you are here, I'll ask the question, How is your wife doing with her medical stuff, hope it all went ok, and is over with.
Sounds like you have a ton of difficult stuff you are dealing with, and your attitude about it all, that is all we can do, right. Great attitude, and hope things get better with your family, in God's time.
Thank you Pinkchip. Yes Alanon could well benefit my wife, but and I quote, there won't be anyone htere who has gone through what I've gone through! Well I guess she's unique and special.
No, you don't know why my children are so unforgiving - let's just say that if I suffered my behaviour as it was and didn't have a programme, a sponsor and a desire to change, then I'd be pretty damn unforgiving too.
Being willing to make amends has also led me to internally forgive others who harmed me in the past - I haven't challenged their behaviour towards me because I don't see the value of dragging up issues from 45 years ago, especially when one of the perpetrators is a long time gone, plus the remaining two are very much changed.
Some stuff is beyond human forgiveness, some isn't. Then again a sponsor challenged me on my lack of self forgiveness.
He said, do you still do XYZ now you're sober?
hell no said I.
Then it's probable that you have changed and that your insane, unhealthy behaviour was enabled, soothed, reinforced by your active alcoholism. So if God has forgiven you (as He has) then who the f*ck are you to think you're better than God! Forgive yerself!
and you know what? I have, becasue He has and He's my higher power.
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I didn't have any communication with my daughter for eight years. Some of it was my own doing as she had some issues to work on.
But when the time came, it was great. And it was that way because I was sober...
I do believe all broken families created by alcoholism will be healed and reunited - not in our time, but His.
I lived with that belief until it became a reality. And after those eight years the best gift I gave my daughter was my own sobriety...
8 years is a long time, but it sounds worth the wait. Thank you for this. My patience is worthwhile. I forget that all things happen when the Higher Power says the time is right, not when I think the time is right.
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Good to see you here, thought about writing a PM, about 10 times, but now that you are here, I'll ask the question, How is your wife doing with her medical stuff, hope it all went ok, and is over with.
Sounds like you have a ton of difficult stuff you are dealing with, and your attitude about it all, that is all we can do, right. Great attitude, and hope things get better with your family, in God's time.
Hugs, and so good to see you Posting.
Toni
Thank you - I should have posted earlier. On the 8th she got a letter to say that the biopsy came back as Non Malignant. On the 15th She went to see the consultant who said along the lines of 'we don't know what this is but it won't kill you. If the symptoms come back in less than a year, don't worry. If you are clear for more than a year and the symptons come back, come and see us again, otherwise we'll see you in 5 years'
So a worrying time but a good result. My wife was very quiet afterwards, sort of like an anti climax. This later led to her saying that she feels dissappointed because if she was ill, then 'things would come to a head, not that I expect you to understand that'.
yes I got that, it's how I used to think, I told her that and said that when I thought like that it was becasue I wanted something to happen so i didn't have to take action.
she was sort of shocked by my understanding, my admission that I used to think like that and why and also her realisation that the background reason was that she wanted someone or something else to take the action that she's not ready to take.
Then followed a quiet weekend, she went to see her Mum who's in a home and took my Son and daughter with her. Her Mum has Alzheimers and is really in a terrible state. the children don't like to see the old girl and get quite upset, but they don't seem to make the link between my wife and her Mum as mother and daughter and the pressure that my wife is under.
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But let me ask you this: What part of this all, exactly, can YOU CONTROL?
That's right. Accept the things you cannot change, change only what you can (don't even try to change what you can't), and know that YOU are doing the right things. Amends? Whatever you have done as far as spoken/living amends, was and is YOU FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS. Nothing more, nothing less. Nothing in particular is promised as to the reaction of others to our amends, the state of the family, etc. But I am willing to bet that at this stage of the game, and even with these hard times, you are seeing some Promises come true.
Take care, and you and your family will be in my prayers.
Joni
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