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Just lately I have started getting sudden, severe bouts of panic again. They first started back in the 80s and, I believe, were one of the things that got me into drinking heavily. I learned at the age of 19 that if I took alcohol, or even if I just had access to it, I could keep the panic at bay.

Well, the rest is history- I had more than 20 years of alcoholic drinking. When I stopped and got into AA my health improved dramatically, I started eating well and taking exercise and my mental health improved immeasureably. I had a sense of purpose once more and depression and anxiety just lifted.

Over the past 2 months they have crept up on me- when I'm at a meeting, walking down the road or just sitting in the house. I have shared about this at meetings- recently I was asked to chair a busy meeting and I didn't feel like it at all. I did, though, and coped fine, sharing with everyone my feelings of terror, which were not situational- not about the meeting or anything particular going on in my life, just sudden abject fear. Like I'm going to have a heart attack or go crazy.

People in the fellowship suggested I see my doctor. She offered me a course of valium, but I don't want those- to me it would be just like picking up again.

So I feel kind of lost; I'm doing the things that are good for my physical health and opening a meeting and sharing at others about this anxiety, but feel I'm making very slow progress.

I do try and keep it in the day, sometimes a couple of hours even, but would welcome input from fellow alcoholics.

Richard

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Hello there, I to have been where you were and what you are expereincing again. While I was drinking they began and I had to have some serious alcohol in me to even get to the store so that I would not have a panic attack in the store in front of everyone, which seriously could involve severe shaking almost like convulsions, my heart racing 90 to nothing.  I was not offered valium and I to do not want anything else that is addictive as well, however; since I have been sober they have subsidded for the most part but just this wensday at work I began to feel it creeping up inside me like a little bug, I began to do my deap breathing excersizes and trying to focus on one object. I had of course not had to take the medicine my dr prescibed me which is on an add needed basis so I filled it real quite and withing 30 min. I felt okay again. I don't know where they come fron as you have said they are out of the blue sometimes with no triggers attached, me personally, If I look back over the last 6-7 hrs before they come on there is a trigger. Maybe this helps you, I hope so.    Thanks for your post.

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Richard your telling part of my story.  I believe the worst they ever were was when I was first getting sober, but some of mine were just part of coming off the alcohol.  Ghezz, what we can do to our bodies.  I'm also grateful that I was not around alcohol for the first 6 to 8 months.

For what ever reasons, I too, am dealing with panic attacks again.  I do give myself permission to "run" if I need to though.  I envy your ability to go ahead and chair that meeting.  I've said no more than once.

My G.P. was the last one that put my alcoholism in my face, so he and I both agree that it would be best for me not to get started (again) on any meds for now.  I walk and talk myself through them and if a friends around I let them know whats happening.  (I've freaked some out when I start hyper-ventilating) smile  I say to myself, "I'm not going to die, I know what this is and it will pass".  I talk to God, "God, I know I'm going through this for a reason, but enough is enough, please relieve me."  Third Step Prayer's help too. wink

I do a written 10th Step every night, but lately, before I get started, I pray for God to really open me up, so not to lie to myself and I have found things that needed to be looked and discussed with my Sponsor.

I've come to this conclusion, gift or curse, it is mine and I will share what I do to get through them with others.  I do believe I'll take my panic attacks over other things I could possible have.

Thanks for sharing, you've helped me and I hope I've helped you.

 



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Hey Richard,

what does your diet, sleep, exercise, vitamins, and caffeine intake, and frequency of meetings  look like? Also could these be from some unresolved issue from your childhood? Maybe even something that you're not aware of (blocked out)?
(Paging pinkchip) smile.gif I know that I have certain fears, one of getting lost, one of being late and missing events like catching a plane, clostrafobia (sp?) and one of someone chasing me. These can cause me to get tense when in traffic, or tight spaces, in crowds of people that I don't know, new situations, going to the airport (25 times a year lol) from childhood situation with my drunk mother.... It get's better but I had to increase my spirituality, contact with my higher power, stress relief techniques (deep breathing...) and use the tools of the program. You are not powerless over these PAs, you have to work to prevent them and Deal with them.

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I have personal experience here and professional knowledge.  Have had more panic attacks than I care to remember.  Sometimes they are just random and it's best not to think about why it happened.  It just is.  To cope, just accept what it is like Joni said.  Nobody has ever died from a panic attack. We convince ourselves we are going to die because it feels like a heart attack, but it isn't.  You have to practice relaxation and just breath deep and repeat "It's okay.  I know what this is.  I'm fine."  Let at least one person in on what you are going through because feeling that you have to hide the panic makes is so much worse.  Sometimes just saying "I'm having a panic attack" to someone else can almost end it right then because you feel safe in your surroundings again and that walls closing in feeling goes away somewhat.  Usually the panic attack passes pretty shortly.  Typically, there is a heavy somatic/bodily component to panic attacks.  I notice that the first thought I have before launching into one is "I don't feel right."  It's something having to do with my body and just not feeling comfortable in my skin and in my surroundings.  This is pretty common for us seeing as alcohol would numb these feelings and now we are much more consciously aware of what is going on with us emotionally and physically.  Relaxation, prayer, exercise could all help a lot.  I would avoid valium also.  I might opt for a non addictive medication if the suffering is that bad.  Buspar is one option, lexapro, effexor...those will take time to work and they don't take panic attacks away right on the spot like valium, klonopin, ativan, xanax (benzodiazipines).  Those drugs are highly addictive and they do make you feel instantly different/mind altered and that can feel like a relapse.  I might investigate other nonhabit forming meds because panic attacks suck and other meds should greatly reduce them without you building a tolerance, needing more and more..etcetera.  I need to caution that I am not a psychiatrist.  I know a lot about meds and this issue, but don't take my suggestions as anything more than based on my own experience. As far as issues that might be triggering them, it could just be your history of anxiety and nothing more than that.  It's more important to cope with them than to find the reason for them.  Spending time thinking about why you might be so anxious will just make you more anxious.  Acceptance and action are the key here...tools from the program can help you too.



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Thanks PC!!

As I got sober and started working the Steps these attacks lessened.  For a great while I didn't have any and if I did they were very mild.

While I was drinking I sought outside help and today I'm very grateful I retained those techniques that have helped me get through them today.  (Grace of God)

Thanks for sharing!



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Thanks to you all for your thoughtful replies.

I haven't had a sponsor for more than a year, and I'm sure I need to get a new one and have a good look at my past. Whatever causes the panic caused it long before alcohol was involved and I think I may need to look at my childhood again.

My diet/caffeine intake etc. are all pretty healthy, but I will look into natural remedies and practice breathing techniques again.

I'm lucky in that I have a duty, and last night I invited a visitor to share and heard a truly wonderful share (they're all good, but some just resonate so well- I'm sure you know what I mean), and I'm going to a meeting tonight with renewed purpose after reading your replies.

Thanks

Richard 


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