this could get UGLY!!!!!!!!

Mikethebike500 · Newbie

this could get UGLY!!!!!!!!

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

Hey Mike,
welcome to the MIP board. Have you looked for meetings schedules in your area? You can of course look for them online or call the local AA intergroup listed in your phone book. You can read the AA book online free here. A lot of your questions will be answered in the book or you can ask as many as you'd like here. http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/

Dean

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Monday 13th of April 2009 01:10:18 AM

Mikethebike500 · Newbie

StPeteDean wrote:

Hey Mike,
welcome to the MIP board. Have you looked for meetings schedules in your area? You can of course look for them online or call the local AA intergroup listed in your phone book. You can read the AA book online free here. A lot of your questions will be answered in the book or you can ask as many as you'd like here. http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/

Dean

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Monday 13th of April 2009 01:10:18 AMIS there anybody to talk to right NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Monday 13th of April 2009 06:55:42 PM

Mikethebike500 · Newbie

Mikethebike500 wrote:

StPeteDean wrote:

Hey Mike,
welcome to the MIP board. Have you looked for meetings schedules in your area? You can of course look for them online or call the local AA intergroup listed in your phone book. You can read the AA book online free here. A lot of your questions will be answered in the book or you can ask as many as you'd like here. http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/

Dean

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Monday 13th of April 2009 01:10:18 AMfuck the meetings in my AREA.......IS there anybody to talk to right NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hEY....I dont want bull meetings to look into....I want real people to chat with about what I do....what they do..........I've called on the phone AA ......suicice crap................whay is is so damn Hard to talk to REAL people about alcoholism...on a day to day basis....I filled out the forms...gave the info..........DONT give me some bull AA web address to CHAT OR MAKE AN APPOINTMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......GIVE ME REAL PEOPLE .....ONLINE............NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Monday 13th of April 2009 06:46:30 AM

bikerbill · MIP Old Timer

Mikethebike500 wrote:

Mikethebike500 wrote:

StPeteDean wrote:

Hey Mike,
welcome to the MIP board. Have you looked for meetings schedules in your area? You can of course look for them online or call the local AA intergroup listed in your phone book. You can read the AA book online free here. A lot of your questions will be answered in the book or you can ask as many as you'd like here. http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/

Dean

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Monday 13th of April 2009 01:10:18 AMfuck the meetings in my AREA.......IS there anybody to talk to right NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hEY....I dont want bull meetings to look into....I want real people to chat with about what I do....what they do..........I've called on the phone AA ......suicice crap................whay is is so damn Hard to talk to REAL people about alcoholism...on a day to day basis....I filled out the forms...gave the info..........DONT give me some bull AA web address to CHAT OR MAKE AN APPOINTMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......GIVE ME REAL PEOPLE .....ONLINE............NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoa....back up feller, you want real people to talk to, real people exist in the real world as well as the virtual world..........and in the real world there are AA meetings, full of real people who will talk to you, face to face. what do you think happens in a meeting? It's not a bunch of experts talking at you, giving lectures, telling you how to do it, there are no forms to fill in, no applications to be made, no surveys to do, not even any fees! (hell's teeth, you've already paid the highest entry fee possible).......if you are ready to stop drinking then get your arse to a meeting, talk to one other person and listen to what they have to say, you'll find people like thee and me, who have gone through and in some cases are going through what you are and know how to get sober and stay sober.........if you're not ready to get and stay sober, well you know the answer to that one.

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Monday 13th of April 2009 06:46:00 AM

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

It got UGLY as promised!!!!

Hey Mike, I was online for 5 minutes waiting for you to respond and then I went to sleep 1:20 am EST.

-- Edited by StPeteDean on Monday 13th of April 2009 06:43:55 AM

cramcj01 · Senior Member

I think a lot of people who have not been to an AA meeting confuse AA with 'alcohol classes.' Two completely different things. AA is all real people, and that's all we talk about....experiences. As far as I know, there aren't any experts at my meetings, but some people with some damn good experience and advice.

Dave Harm · Senior Member

Man... I don't know if it's UGLY but believe it or not I can relate. Who wants to sit down with a bunch of homeless whinos? I'm better then that! I have a job and a home. They have nothing. I'm not that bad!

All of the above is sarcasm. But... in reality... I did feel this way about AA until I finally opened the door and my mind and tried it. And since then I've loved every second of it.

And those homeless whino's, bottom of the barrel drunks? They ended up being teachers, and lawyers, and professors, bankers, and thankfully me. I was so glad they let me join them!

Doll · MIP Old Timer

What an 'Alcohol class' (having blonde moment! ) ?

One of my favorite parts of the BB is about "us" not ever associating with one another outside of AA.

Hope you found your answer MTB.

kkotz401 · Senior Member

Try to stay calm and positive. I know it can get frustrating but it's for the better.

Phil · MIP Old Timer

Sounds like youre crying out for help Mike .

I was 37 when the shit hit the fan and was dispersed all over the room, also.

Its all about choices bud..

And what is yours>?

Thats the biggy..

Hope you make the right ones ehh

It beats dyin. :)

Sobrietyspell · MIP Old Timer

Welcome to MIP, Mike. I hope you're feeling in a better humour today. You are reaching out & speaking with alcoholics online here. We're not here all at the same time & it sometimes takes time to receive the replies we're hoping for. You said you haven't tried any face to face meetings yet. I hope you find some in your area & can make some new sober friends there who you can have many real, face to face & over the phone chats with all to do with alcoholism & our experience of it. I don't know what your previous experiences of getting help have been but there is hope for you in A.A.

You said yourself you see attending meetings as a future for you. I hope you get the answers you're looking for. If you're an alcoholic like me you'll know that one drink is too many & 1000 never enough. We have the interest here to find out what our liabilities are & to build our mental defences against that first drink. We live 1Day@aTime & we help one another stay sober in sharing our experience, strength & hope with one another. I hope you'll come back & share with us how it has been for you. We're here to listen & to share with you too. Good luck & God bless, Danielle x

Jerry F · MIP Old Timer

This could get UGLY!! LOL wasn't it already. Your posted attitude reminded me of
me when I got here. It also reminded me of my alcoholic attitude when I was
drinking so I was right where I was supposed to be from the get go. I had to
learn that if I wanted help I would have to do things that drew others to me to get
help otherwise I drove away what it was I said I wanted.

Let me tell you that I am a back door alcoholic. Lots of stuff prevented me from
coming thru the front doors of AA. One was I didn't want others to find me dumb
about anything and also because I was totally skepticle of what others told me
and what they might want from me. I was raised in the disease of alcoholism and
I was trained in it to participate in the bullshit. So I didn't know what or who to
believe and I needed help bad. I had reached the state of toxic shock (over doses)
on several occasions and had trouble believing I really had a problem with booze
even along side the evidence of other major losses.   So I decided to get my smarts
where most intellegent looking people get theirs...I went to college and after that
was a qualified alcohol and substance abuse counselor and was able to stay off
of alcohol for 9 years before finally being led by a power greater than myself to
completing an assessment on my own drinking history.   With all the stuff I had I
still didn't have the awareness that I myself was alcoholic, what type of alcoholic
I was, or any of the other information.   That assessment taken over to the
inpatient program nurse got me information. I didn't put my name on the top
of the assessment so the nurse had no idea at that time who it was. When she
was finished assessing the assessment she pointedly advised me that though
she didn't know who it belonged to, "The person has to be in and inpatient
recovery immediately or else the next time they drink they die." After she found
out who owned the assessment she replied, "you've been around program a long
time...you know what to do next."   I have never been one to easily accept others
and put faith in their potential to help me but that all change when I got into
recovery and convinced myself to ask..."Can you please help me?" When I did
that a crowd rushed forward to help me save my own life and thirity years later
the gratitude for it just grows.

My first calls for help were to "Help in Emotional Trouble" and they put me on hold.
"The Suicide Prevention Center" told me everyone was at lunch. The hotline
number for the Al-Anon Family Groups (Family and Friends of alcoholics) took the
call and got me to my first meeting.

You sound angry and scared...How can we help?

Jerry F smile

-- Edited by Jerry F on Tuesday 14th of April 2009 06:00:27 PM

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

Jerry F wrote:

This could get UGLY!! LOL wasn't it already. Your posted attitude reminded me of
me when I got here. It also reminded me of my alcoholic attitude when I was
drinking so I was right where I was supposed to be from the get go.
You sound angry and scared...How can we help?

Jerry F

-- Edited by Jerry F on Tuesday 14th of April 2009 06:00:27 PM

This alcoholic doesn't even need booze to get ugly if I'm not getting my way
sometimes. Although I've gotten a lot better and it's pretty infrequent, I still resemble a 2 yo throwing a tantrum (at least inside my head) sometimes. I think that dry drunks are worse than the real thing.