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A few things I never knew about AA's beginning.  Thought I'd share..............

Edwin Throckmorton Thacher (29 April 189621 March 1966) (commonly known as Ebby Thacher or Ebby T.), was an old drinking friend of Alcoholics Anonymous co-founder Bill Wilson. He is credited with introducing Wilson to the initial principles that AA would soon develop, such as "one alcoholic talking to another," and the Jungian thesis which was passed along to Rowland Hazard and, in turn, to Thacher that alcoholism could be cured by a "genuine conversion"


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Thacher was a schoolfriend of Wilson, and battled his whole life with alcoholism, frequently landing in mental hospitals or jail. After one bender, three members of The Oxford Group, Rowland Hazard, F. Shepard Cornell, and Cebra Graves, convinced the court to parole Thacher into their custody. Hazard taught Thacher the Oxford Group principles and the idea that a conversion was needed between patients. Hazard lodged him in the Calvary Rescue Mission, operated by the Calvary Episcopal Church in New York.

 Beginnings of AA

In November 1934, Thacher had arranged a visit to Wilson's apartment. Expecting to spend a day drinking and re-living old times, Wilson was instead shocked by Thacher's refusal to drink. "I've got religion," he reportedly said to Wilson's surprise. Thacher told Wilson of his conversion at the Rescue Mission and acquainted Wilson with the teachings of Rowland Hazard about the Oxford Group life-changing program, as well as the prescription of Carl Jung for a conversion.
Wilson at first declined Thacher's invitation to sobriety, and continued to drink in a more restrained way for a short while. After talking with Dr. William D. Silkworth, however, he went to Calvary Rescue Mission and underwent a religious conversion; He was then admitted to the Charles B. Towns Hospital for Drug and Alcohol Addiction in New York City on December 11, 1934. Thacher visited him there on December 14 and essentially helped Wilson take what would become Steps Four, Five, Six, Seven, and Eight.

 Later life

While Wilson stayed sober and eventually formed Alcoholics Anonymous with Dr. Bob Smith, Thacher chose a different path and soon returned to drinking. Wilson always called Thacher his "sponsor," and even though he had returned to drinking, Wilson looked after his friend's welfare for the rest of his life. Thacher struggled on and off with sobriety over the years, and ultimately died sober in Ballston Spa, New York from emphysema in 1966.

 ~Wickepedia



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Thanks for that Doll.  I love reading about the history of A.A.   I feel honoured to be a part of this wonderful fellowship so its history is something that really interests me.

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thanks Doll.

I just received "the Akron pamphlets" that I ordered, that included the AA second reader and the workbook Dr. Bob put together in 1940. Pretty cool stuff for $2.50

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Thanks doll!

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