Is there an herb that will make me sick if I drink?

Dublin · Member

Is there an herb that will make me sick if I drink?

Dave Harm · Senior Member

The reality is no herb or medication will make you quit drinking. I've known people who took "anti-buse" and tried drinking. After getting violently sick they still drank.

Spirituality and AA are the answers if drinking gets out of control. After a "healthy dose" of sobriety and daily intake of Vitamin B helps the body and curbs any lingering thoughts about drinking.

Early in sobriety, I always carried sweets with me. Life Savers to suck on and candy bars. If your stomach is full on sweets the last thing it wants is booze.

Creating Dreams, from the nightmares of hell

Doll · MIP Old Timer

Drinking is a disease called Alcoholism, not a "habit". You must treat this illness as you would any other........"don't want it on my insurance" -- I must say that's an "excuse" I haven't heard before........Dave's right, there's no 'magic' pill. It takes desire and hard work.

(((hugs))) and prayers.

Sick of being sick · MIP Old Timer

In the study of habits (Habit <psychological>: an acquired pattern of behavior that often occurs automatically), psychologists have found that the easiest way to get rid of a habit is to replace it with another, healthier habit.

I have to agree with the other folks here, in that alcoholism is more than a habit. It has been called a disease, and I would agree that it is more that, in that we seem to be physically (maybe genetically?), and/or mentally predisposed to become addicted.

Either way, the healthier habit I would recommend, is to start hitting AA meetings, reading AA literature, spending a lot of time with AA'ers with some serious sobriety under their belts, etc.

Interesting side note- I attended some out-patient counselling for alcohol abuse about 12 years ago, and my Blue Cross insurance paid for it. Surprisingly, it had no effect on my rates at all. Don't know if my insurance company has a different attitude, or if I just got lucky and they missed it.

Tuggboat · Senior Member

YOu could try jelly or cream filled donuts. If they don't work before hand you could try them the morning after. White frosting or red jelly. MMMMMM :) I found bottled grapejuice effective also the morning after. It tasted like wine but since it had no alcohol in it my body would just wretch it out to make room for more stuff with alcohol content. :) good and sweet MMMM

Don't know nothing about taking drugs to stop drinking. When I used to try to quit I always substituted drugs for drinking. When I finally quit this time a novel idea, something I never even dreamed of before came upon me.

What if I didn't use any drugs or booze? Gradully I took a few aspirin, some vitamins and later a few herbs but I watch out for even them. They got some humdingers out there. Lets not forget stuff like heroin is a beatiful flower.

I quit relying on mind altering drugs to deal with emotional discomfort. Instead I found something else.

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

actually, that newer drug that curbs cigarette smoking by blocking the neuro receptor sites is also supposed to work on alcohol cravings. Tell the doctor that you're trying to quit smoking.

Tuggboat · Senior Member

They gave a friend of mine an anti-depressant to quit smoking. I couldn't stand him. He was like he was on speed. I'd say something like, "Well Dave, someday I'd like to whittle that walnut tree into a toothpick" and he'd jump right up and carve me a toothpick, while he mowed the lawn and fixed the plumbing with the other hand.

Dang, he never quit smoking but I quit asking for anything around him. Steak, burgers, comin off the grill. Tan a deer hide, next day hanging on the side of the garage. etc etc. What is that stuff?

As far as this antabuse goes, I HOPE IT WORKS. i HAD TO TRY EVERY SINGLE THING i COULD THINK OF BEFORE i CAME TO AA. Nothing less than, no stone left unturned would do. This was the last stop. The very last resort. Anta buse is about the only thing I didn't try. My Dad tried it though, he drank anyhow. He was so used to being sick for a few decades that nothing changed. I used to think if I made myself sicker I would stop too. Sometimes I'd srink myself all pukey just so I could only sip a few the next day???? I thought I might be able to drink myself sober. I guess it kinda worked but not the way I thought.

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Sick of being sick · MIP Old Timer

There have been some studies done with Kudzu root, but, from what I've heard and read, the jury is still out. Supposedly, it is supposed to help curb cravings for alcohol. Again, there is not enough evidence currently to support this.

I worked with a fellow bartending and waiting tables in a lounge, about 30 years ago, who would take Anabuse in the morning, and still end up drinking by the time we closed that night. He would get VERY ill every time, sometimes even ending up hospitalized. He moved away after about a year, and I never heard anything about him for years, until one day someone told me he had died (in his 30's)...........hmmmmmmmmmmmm?..............

Medical science is still working to find a drug to remove the physical urge to drink. I've heard about the success with the anti-smoking drug, but all the articles I've read also stated that the success was coupled with therapy to deal with the emotional/psychological "urge" to drink.

Tuggboat · Senior Member

The state overdosed my dad. That stuff seemed to do brain damge that lasted a long time after he stopped it.

jonijoni · MIP Old Timer

Chantix (Champix int he UK) has a mixed effect on folks using alcohol. I used Chantix to quit smoking and was very involved in an online support group of folks using it. About half of them reported less desire to drink, and OTHER people started drinking continuously, who had not done so before, and were reporting getting really out of control, and branching off to other groups for support for drinking. So the jury's still out on Chantix and alcohol....

Joni

Tuggboat · Senior Member

Did anyone see the anti leg spasmodic drug that may increase gambling?????

it say to watch for all obssesive compulsive habits. :) Just think, there is a drug that will make you use and gamble. Fantastic.

LCP · Newbie

There is not a herb that I know of but there is a drug called Baclofen that can completely stop the craving for alcohol. A word of advice however, it will not stop the desire to drink and it will not deal with the feelings of anxiety and restlessness that one has to cope with when one stops drinking. If you have an overwhelming desire to stop drinking and you are ready to deal with the underlying patterns and emotions that have pushed you to drink again, then this is the drug for you . Try reading a book called "The end of my addiction" by Dr. Olivier Ameison. He was a cardiac surgeon who binge drank and almost killed himself. He tested Baclofen on himself and gives a regimen for taking it. AA is definitely the way to go to deal with the delusional thinking that might push you back even if you have this miracle drug on board. It is to me a system that is both spiritual and practical and all those who go there understand.