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This is my first time here. I looked for a message board like this and signed up promptly because I'm worried about tonight. I'm at a major party school and the main reason I came here honestly was because I knew there would be oceans of alcohol.

I was right. I've made many friends (or at least a lot of drunken acquaintances), though I'm not sure they know that a lot of them I only befriended because I knew they had the alcohol hook-ups, and slowly but surely I am finding people who would drink with me any night of the week.

I drank last night, the first time I've drank on a Wednesday. If I wanted to, I could easily drink tonight as well, which I'm very afraid of. To not drink tonight I have to actively cancel plans that I've made, and it would be so easy to simply not make that call to cancel and just let it happen. I just got off the phone with my therapist and he told me if going out tonight means I'll drink, I can't go out. But how can I make myself press the keys on my phone and use my vocal chords to do the exact thing I don't want to do, cancel?

But the thing is I'm on medication, I'm struggling to stay on top of my school work, and I have a family and doctors who have invested a lot of time and care and it's imperative that I don't drink because of the medication. I've been lying to them for a while, telling them I haven't been drinking for the past few weeks when in fact I've been drinking heavily. In my drunken haze last night I called my therapist and left him a voice mail informing him that I've been lying for the past month.

In key moments, though, I couldn't care less about getting better. I just want go out and get as intoxicated as possible. My room mate, who knows I struggle with drinking, asked me if I was going out tonight, and I told her no, that if I went out I would get very drunk, and I can't do that. Then she left the room and I immediately started bawling because the reality has hit me that if I cancel I won't be able to drink tonight. That's why I cried, not because I'm becoming a drunken mess, but because I won't be able to drink tonight once I make the call. I feel helpless and horribly wistful.

The fact is I really need to get out of here. I never should have come to this school. It brings out the worst in me. It's just way too easy to get drunk whenever I want to here. I do wish I was at a small liberal arts school where drinking is merely a side note, not the favorite past time, the sport that makes our freakish enthusiasm for football seem half-hearted. When we are winning in home games we chant for the last twenty seconds or so, "Let's get wasted! (clap clap clap-clap-clap)." It is my favorite part of going to the games.

Thanks for reading. I hope to hear what you guys do in situations where you know you shouldn't go to something because temptation will be rampant, but it's just so hard to not go when it's what you want to do most.

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Hi Alev and welcome to the board. Wow, where to begin? Speaking from personal experience, I was very self destructive at that age. I didn't really see it that way, I just thought I was having fun. I wanted to achieve goals but I was sabotaging my success by partying. It's really easy to do because alcohol numbs your feelings so much that everything just goes away, the shame, the guilt, the pain. It's easy to just say F it and get drunk. The hard thing to do is take stock of your priorities, make a schedule and stick to it. Well that would be easy if drinking was only a decision and you could just decide not to drink on certain nights but if you're crying about the thought of not drinking on a week night then you might be in the right place. Changing schools isn't going to help, there's always someone that will drink with us no matter where we go. But the next day, those might not be the people that we would count on as friends. Sounds like you're in a big school, chances are that there are AA meetings on campus, or very near by. You can look up AA in your phone book and ask where some meetings are. You can also ask if someone will take you to one. It's worth a shot, if you are looking for a solution. If you have some questions about getting sober or how the program works, ask away that's what we're here for. smile

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Hi Alev:
Good to see you here! Hope you did pick up the phone and cancel for tonight. Possibly you could call your parents and truthfully tell them where your at. Theyve been there for you in the past it sounds like and maybe even just talking to them would help. Youve done the right thing by reaching out for help here.

I always find it helpful to find something to keep me busy when I felt like drinking. Read some of the other posts on here and you'll see youre not alone and there is help out there if YOU really want it. Good luck to you! Dean had some good advise too regarding calling an AA listing in your phone book or perhaps student affairs has some info for you!!!
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Hi Alev,
Awww to be young, where we "think" life is infinite. Alot of us made choices in our youth
only realize that there are far more important things in life than alcohol. We wake up one day look in the mirror and it OMG is that really me?! Okay.....this is coming from the voice of experience who had to learn some things the hardway because she would not take
the advice given.
In our youth "alcohol" seems like the thing to do. I agree with Dean the buddies that
will be with you tonight (or anytime you're drinking) probably won't be your best friend(s)
when there comes those times in your life you REALLY need a friend.
What comes to mind at present are the numerous singers and movie stars that are making the headlines right now. It would seem they have it all. Yet behinds the scenes
inside those minds things are going on that are leading each of them down that path of destruction. They for whatever reason are choosing this path to mask fears, insecurities,
ect. And for many of them their names are being read in the obits long before they have REALLY experienced life.
On this board you'll find the name "Quetzal" aka Carol. Click on her name and it'll take
you to her profile page where you will see her wonderful website. There you'll find names
of very young women who "liked to party". Most of these have before/after pics of these
women along with their stories. It may very well help to SEE what the realities of drugs
and alcohol do.
I myself......in Dec. had to force myself to attend the funeral of a 26 yr.old nephew.
While suicide by hanging was listed as the cause of death what led up to it was a combination
of antidepressants and alcohol. I still go through times that all I can do is bawl. He was good looking, sooo funny, and to those closest to him he'd give the shirt of his back to help
them. His 6mos old son will NEVER know him except from what others tell him. I looked
around the room during the service and all I could think, "yes, you loved him. the Question
is, "Did you help him when he needed you most?" I could also not help but to wonder
among those young with tear stained eyes would be the next.
I know this sounds harsh. THESE ARE THE REALITIES OF ALCOHOL.
We are here for you if you simply need to keep sharing your thoughts throughout the
night until this urge passes.
Will keep you in my thoughts and pray you'll listen to the sage advice and wisdom of
what is being said.
With love,
wanda

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A good place to start is to see the alcohol as the culpret instead of the school. Can you see how powerless you are over alcohol. Can you see or even feel it keeping you from doing what you want to. Can you see it has paralyzed your ability to dial the phone and cancel. Can you see that you have given control of your toungue to alcohol? That you can't say no even though you know you should?

This is all pretty good indications that you are powerless. I felt the exact same way a couple nights before I quit drinking. I could not say the word NO, nor could my mind allow me to say yes. I stared at the bottom of my empty glass and knew my next drink would glue me to the barstool for an unpredictable length of time. I knew that would be the ned of my job. I knew that in turn would be the end of the roof over my head, I knew then that all respect of my family and last few friends was about to be poured away like stale beer and yet

I could not say NO!!

All I could say was "Why Not?"

I was an in charge guy, tuff and in control.

How dare alcohol boss me around. And yet with all my strongest efforts, It picked me up and threw me into the swill again. Like dunking an already choking man man, Alcohol pushed me under again and all I could hope for was to get even with it if I ever got away.

For now, for a little longer. I was its toy.

That was about Oct 28th, 1988. On the 31st I had the first 24 hours sober in about 6 years. I have not drank since.


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I called and cancelled. It was painful, especially because a few seconds before I called her I got a text from a different friend asking me what I was doing and telling me she was gonna find somewhere to drink (Thirsty Thursday is a time-honored institution here), but I didn't end up going, so at least I accomplished that.

If I'm being honest I agree that it is the alcohol rather than the school that is dictating my drinking habits.

I had to withdraw here first semester. A couple of weeks before the semester ended it was clear I couldn't do any more work so now I am technically in my first semester, though I've been here since September. The official reason I gave the administration was that the number and dosages of the medications I was on kept changing, which was true, and therefore that my brain chemistry was off and doing work became impossible.

However, the reason we had to keep changing the medications was because my 3 nights a week average of heavy drinking was throwing all of the medications completely out of whack, so we had to keep adding new ones and lowering/raising dosages. (These were mood stabilizers.) I stopped drinking over winter break because I didn't go out and I got down to only one medication, which I guess is telling--without drinking for six weeks, the one medication I really needed worked fine, and I didn't need all the others to help it work.

So alcohol was the reason I withdrew, although I hate to admit, I felt like the medication was interfering with my alcohol consumption and not the other way around.

Learning--I think I will go on that website. I can't imagine myself getting older, period, let alone that my alcohol consumption will affect how my aging goes. Logically it makes sense but I just can't process it.

There is an AA meeting every Monday at 5:30 down the street from my dorm. A few weeks ago I went down there half an hour early to make sure I could find the building--I was all set to go, though it felt surreal and I was extremely nervous. I made it to the meeting place, which was a bungalow turned substance abuse treatment center, but I left once I saw the building. It looked so sad. It looked like a place where you would go when you hit rock bottom, which of course it is for most of its residents.

I've been thinking about going back though, because every day I'm that much closer to rock bottom, so I might as well pre-empt it.

*edit* My introduction to alcohol, by the way, was binge drinking by myself on whatever was already open in my parent's liquor cabinet and the bottle of Absolut in the freezer. I had to be hospitalized once for alcohol poisoning on a Sunday night my junior year of high school. My parents keep a dry house now.

Thanks for these replies--it's so helpful to hear from people who have lived through this.

-- Edited by alev430 at 00:06, 2008-02-29

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Hi Alev,

You still here? Hope you are.

I want to thank you for being here today. Don't know if you had a chance to read any of the posts above but you had a lot of good people jump right in and give you a hand. They gave you good stuff; actually, it's amazing what they've shared with you. I read your post about 3 hours ago and as I was reading what was being offered to you, looking to see if there was something I might be able to add from my experiences and the lessons I learned. But you know what? As I was reading all the notes for you, they started helping me. I just spent the last three hours reading posts from all over this site. There's a lot of great stories about amazing recoveries, witnesses testifying that they themselves are living miracles, and of course there's great wrenching heartache and unrecoverable loss here too. But not enough pain to dampen the brightness of all us lost souls radiating our love and gratitude of being found again and being here. So thank you for creating the opportunity for me to see what was humbly and graciously offered.

A quick read through this site will tell you what we do in situations we shouldn't be in.

As for me, all I can tell you is that I too went to colleges and universities, 4 or 5 of them over 5 or 6 years. I'm not quite sure which or how many as it's still a blur. Changing courses and schools didn't make much difference I still successfully became an alcoholic and a drug addict. In hindsight, I guess I did graduate my majors with honors as I stayed in the profession for many, many years until it was either retire or die.

But because of rooms like these, I have not had a drink or a drug for some time and my life today is wonderful.

We here know how hard it is to quit and as you can tell from the tone set that we're hoping that a seed gets planted for when you're ready. You see it took all of us the hard way to get it; we hope and pray that it's not the same for you.

Thanks for being here today and we hope you come back .biggrin

*** edit    GREAT NEWS about cancelling. The doors of this program are always open and you will always be welcomed. The program is everywhere you will find your door.

 



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alev, it sounds like you are where I was at in life some years back......... please read my story here that i shared last week.... the link for it is http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=42735&p=3&topicID=15635798

I hope you will not have to go through all that i have gone through. And i am so so glad that you are here posting, letting out your feelings, thoughts and fears, because that is a very healthy thing to do at this point!! Welcome.

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Hi Alev,

Welcome to MIP. I do hope that you'll stay around and keep sharing with us.

Well done on calling and canceling. It wasn't easy, but it was a lot better than the alternative.

I used to tell myself that I wouldn't drink if I didn't have this or that problem, or if this and that hadn't happened. But,in the end I had to face that it was the alcohol causing all of my problems.

I do hope that you'll check out some AA meetings in your area. They are great and they keep me sober. I have made so many wonderful friends in the rooms of AA and I truly look forward to my meetings now.

Please keep posting and letting us know how everything is going for you, won't you?

Take care,

Carol

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Hi Alev,
Congrats for cancelling and deciding not to drink last night. That's all that we do. We make a decision not to drink today. Then we get up again tomorrow and make that decision not to drink that day one day at a time. You mentioned that from the begining (of your drinking) that you binged on your parents alcohol and that one time you got sick. That's a common thread amongst us here, that we have realized we never could have just one or two drinks. that somehow we had a reaction to alcohol that we couldn't control.  The first time I drank, in 8th grade, I was at a party. I sat down in this back yard with a school mate next to the 10 cases of beer and drank 12 or more. we each had a pile of bottles and lost count. I got drunk and I got a serious case of alcohol poisoning. It wasn't too fun at 12 years old to be sick and hungover, but you know my parents never said anything to me. I guess they thought it was just what kids do, unbelievable, but then again both my parents were alcoholics (which isn't a prerequisite but it certainly didn't give me much of a chance genetically). My point is that we believe that most of us are genetically or otherwise predisposed to be alcoholics and that we don't have the ability to process alcohol like "normal" people do. Not that there are a lot of occasional drinkers in college but if you look around you'll see some people that can have one or two drinks and a lot of people that don't drink at all. They are hard to see because there busy doing other things, look hard they are there. Your roomate might be one of them.

You are fortunate that at this point you've only been drinking a few days a week. Alcoholism is a progressive disease and it gets worse over time. It took awhile before I was a daily drinker but in the mean time, I wasted any opportunity that I had to go to college by not finishing my senior year of high school. I felt quite a bit of shame about that but quickly got to work in the constuction industry where drinking was acceptable and amazingly I lost very few jobs to missing work from hangovers. College isn't that forgiving. You've got such a great opportunity, it's truley a blessing all the way around and that window of opportunity can close. And drinking will be right there for you to ease the pain of it in a bond that could last a lifetime. Oh It would be easy for you to "compare out" and tell yourself that it's "not that bad". That is a challenge for our younger members to listen to older people talk about losses ect.. But we look at you and say "I wish I could've gotten sober then". Fortuanately for you there are a lot of young people in AA these days and you're in the right place to find them and listen to how they changed their life for the better.

I went to my first AA meeting when I was 15 and another when I was 17 but unfortunately I didn't accept that I was an alcoholic (or wish to do anything about it) till I was 27 when my sone was born. Then I went to AA meetings steadily for 2 years and couldn't stay sober. Finally at age 29, after my marriage was over, I was willing to do whatever it took to get and stay sober. I could write a couple of books on what happened in those 14 lost years. Sure I had a some fun times but with an IQ of 135 and an sat score of 1300 (for someone who rarely did homework or attendent class toward the end) it was just an aweful waste of potential. I am a contractor now and am very happy with what I do, but my customers are generally very successful and I envy them sometimes because I know that I could've done a lot more with what I had to work with. I dream of going to college after I retire just to get a degree. How dumb is that?

Alev, don't waste your life. Get a grip on this thing. In here we learn what makes us "tick" and why we are so inclined to drink and self destruct. I hope you'll join us. Check out that meeting. You'll find some happy people there, that are free to do what ever they want without the bonds that alcohol had once placed on them. Let us know how that meeting was. Check out these links to Young peoples groups in AA, there's a lot going on and probably near you.  There's lists of meetings for young people and activities, they have a lot of fun.  http://www.theagapecenter.com/AA/YoungPeopleInAA.htm

http://www.icypaa.org/

Dean


-- Edited by StPeteDean at 07:01, 2008-02-29

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Hiya Alev,

Wow, incredible messages here from people who know, care about others and have enormous experience with life on alcohol. Trust us, if you can prevent a life of hell, do it. There is a difference between drinking a lot and alcoholism. The latter is a disease and can be treated, it is more about how and why we drink (or use). I think the key is to determine asap if one is an alcoholic. This of course is difficult at the beginning as we tend to get into denial about it, minimize the problems we are encountering as a result of drinking and using. You are clearly in a life situation that puts enormous pressure on people to use and drink as a way of "fitting in". What do we even accomplished by getting blitzed, always doing something we regret later and feeling like crap afterwards? It doesn't mean that you have to stay home and knit (I have nothing against knitting,lol). I know so many young (18-25) people who nipped it in the bud and are doing well without their "drug of choice". I've never been forced to drink or been looked down upon for not drinking while at parties. I think the reason you came here is no coincidence, keep listening to your inner voice, you are worth it.

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Alev,
You took one gigantic step by posting/airing your feelings. An even BIGGER one in
cancelling your plans last night.
It was with a grateful heart, there went up a little silent prayer for you. (Truth be known
mine wasn't the only one.) It is certain there will be more for you to continue taking steps
towards sobriety.
You mentioned you couldn't fathom getting older. That is a very natural feeling. There
probably isn't a person on this board who at your age could imagine that either. We all would like to think we are immortal. Truth is we aren't. That is a fact of life. What we
do have is the ability to make choices in our life that will either allow our lives/bodies to
grow naturally as was intended OR we hasten life's end.
I never really cared for alcohol or developed a problem. I feel very fortunate that .....
close to your age I simply phased it out. Growing up I can count on one hand the times
I seen alcohol in my parents home. I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT!!!!
My husband on the other hand was raised differently. He started very young (13....sneaking it) Though his mother never drank, she also never protested it's presence.
When we first married I didn't think much of it in my own home. Over the course over the
years it took its toll in many ways. The nephew was the SECOND family member to take
his life. The first was my brother-in-law. It was one year before the birth of our first child.
The thought of what happened scared me sooo badly, I began to protest. I surely didn't
want to be a widow at 25!!!! Yet over the years it silently kept creeping in.
I seen physical signs as it made it progression. Yes it was aging my husband!!! The
more I begged the more he denied he had a problem. He now has been through 2 MAJOR
surgeries: one for his heart and one to open blocked arteries in one of his legs! He left
one year before these incidents occured. He has high blood pressure, his once dark
hair is almost white, his breathing is very labored and he has gained an enormous amount
of weight and currently is walking again with a limp because chances are the arteries in
his other leg are blocked. Inspite of what the doctors have told him.......he continues.
AA has helped me see MORE clearly what alcoholism REALLY IS. When I mentioned
looking in the mirror and thinking "OMG, is that really you?" I was speaking of myself. I "felt" very old when I first came to AA because I had been pulled down by the effects of another's problem. I noticed suddenly lines in my face and my hair seemed to have
overnight greyed. I was alone left with 2 kids still in HS. I had denied all those years
that alcohol was little by little consuming my life.......eating away my vitality.
So like you, I thought about many things. Initially, I came to AA looking for something,
ANYTHING, to "fix" my husband in turn "fix" my marriage. That didn't happen. It did
however, help ME!!!! I found inspiration, hope, and the will to go on and LIVE my life
rather than allow the disease to control it. YES, alcohol takes control over not just the
alcoholic but ALSO those around him/her. The program gave the tools to use in every day life whether applied to family, social, or work. I became more peaceful and happier. Those 2 kids graduated from HS. My daughter went on to/currently attends college. The son is in
the Army Guard which has given him an education in areas equivalent to college level classes.
Things I never thought I could do I have found I can. That "old lady" that I seen in the
mirror seems to have faded away in the past 5 yrs. (Of course, those bottles of Clairol have
helped. Okay, I do retain the right to some vanity. LOL)
By telling you this it is my hope you will begin your own journey and see the beauty
of life and all the wonderful opportunities that can be at your dispose as only AA/sobriety
can bless you with.
We are all here to HELP you find those miracles......a step at a time......a day at a time.
Learning/wanda

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