just that one beer makes you feel like what?

lateforthesky · Member

just that one beer makes you feel like what?

Sobrietyspell · MIP Old Timer

Welcome to MIP, L4tSky! You've reached out & tried something new & maybe this will help to inspire you. One of the most striking things I've learned in becoming sober is 'If I keep on doing what I've always done, I'll keep on getting what I've always got'. For me, I was practically in dispair towards the end of my drinking. I looked back over my life & lost hope that things would be able to change for me. I thought 'Well, if this is how my life's been so far then I've not much to look forward to.' I didn't know how capable I was of change & I didn't know how to. My thoughts & moods were so depressive that I found myself in continously repeating patterns in a slowly sliding everdeclining cycle & I was losing heart. The only time I'd get excited was at the thought of & inside a drink & what I thought it would bring me. A much needed ego boost or some imagination & guts for possibilities. I couldn't make it last cuz afterwards the buzz & 'heightened reality' was gone. I was left with me again & to be frank, for the most part, I just wasn't enough. I couldn't live upto my own dreams & ideals & I was losing hope. In the core of my heart I thought & half suspected I'd become a suicide & that it was always an option of all else failed either that or donate my life to charity but then maybe I wouldn't even have had the confidence to do that. I attracted sickness around me & I was a nuisance to my family for my profound self~righteousness on one hand & bitter neediness on the other. I 'landed' in a destructive relationship & something had to give. I say destructive but it taught me a lesson of pain in the end & I began to see how drink was suddenly the culprit for much of my trouble & not the essential friend as I'd saw it before. Something changed in my understanding of my need for it & I put it down. For 2months on my own, came to AA & picked it back up again 'accidently'. I learned about these other times I'd drank again from listening at meetings & in the end I discovered I had to reach out, ask for help & attend even more meetings in order to build defences against wanting that first drink again. It was hard, it has been hard but it's turned my life around. It felt like being born again, being given a second chance, about not being alone & renewing hope for life & living, making new friends & discovering new interests. It's been a new world for me & I'm glad there was something huge, 1 thing I could do that made it possible to change everything.. To stay Sober 1Day@aTime. I'm learning so much about myself in AA & I feel safe & positive about the future. I feel valuable, worthwhile & humble. Not always! But I know I can if I keep doing the right things & following what's suggested. There's lots to be had here if you're interested, Sky. You sound curious & hoping for change. I hope what I've shared maybe something of what you're looking for. I tend to mostly speak about recovering in the emotional, spiritual & mental side of the drinking malady. There will be people here who can share with you more about the physical effects too. Suffice for me to say that 10wks or so after stopping, my body seemed to have detoxed & I suddenly got a natural lift away from the depressant! My moods are never as bad now as they used to be & even just this in itself is such a difference. We say in AA it's the first drink that gets you drunk & to stay away from that first drink 1Day@aTime cuz it brings along everything, & particularly for me, all that & moreover as I've written above. I've learned lots about alcoholism since coming to AA & joining MIP. I hope you enjoy it here with us & share some more about your own experiences :) I hope you don't mind my lengthy sharing of mine in return! Something in your words simply spoke to me. Good to have you here, Sky. Danielle x

Phil · MIP Old Timer

just that one beer makes you feel like what?

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More and more and more and more.

Guess Im addicted to alcohol ehh.:)

Doll · MIP Old Timer

"..if I have one I'll have 13, the more I drink, the more I drink, the more I drink"

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

"first the man takes a drink, then the drink takes a drink, then the drink takes the man"

jonijoni · MIP Old Timer

Just one beer makes me feel like MORE.

So I think I will pass on the first one!!

joni

lateforthesky · Member

thanks

i bought two dutch beers yesterday one i never tried orangebeer or some name and drank one then another later and then i couldnt sleep

i blame the beer i guess

the hops keep me awake i think

i think ill really have to quit -its waste of money anyway

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

lateforthesky wrote:

thanks

i bought two dutch beers yesterday one i never tried orangebeer or some name and drank one then another later and then i couldnt sleep

i blame the beer i guess

the hops keep me awake i think

i think ill really have to quit -its waste of money anyway

alcohol and money really doesn't have much do with it. Just deciding not to drink tomorrow is about the same as deciding not to watch a particular tv program. You'll have to find a different way to entertain yourself for a time but it won't change your life.

lateforthesky · Member

thats sort of a cryptic post stdean

lani · MIP Old Timer

Hey there:
Sad to think youre life is just slipping by, with nothing positive in it! Sounds like you need a change of some sort! That my friend is up to you! You didnt get into details about whats going on with you but is it possible youre looking for help with alcoholism?

Try some of the things listed above, hit a few meetings , get to know some new people. What have you got to lose. Its good to see you posting and welcome to the site!
Lani

Tuggboat · Senior Member

I guess all that matters is how it makes YOU feel. If you want to stop go ahead and stop. If you have trouble, Thats where we come in. Not everybody is an alcoholic just because they drink. I guess alcohol makes just about everybody a little sick in the morning. Your nothing special in that regard. Many of us get real sick but we drink anyhow. Maybe you don't have to.

Your reference to OCD intrests me. See, we as Alcoholics also have obsessions and compulsions but they center around alcohol. What would set us apart from every other OCD person is things like physical illness from withdrawal and a compulsion that occurs only in response to the first drink. Before we pick up the first drink, we do obsess but at this point it feel more like we should drink rather than the compulsive form of MUST drink.

If you are able to stop as easily as you think, you may be fortunate enough to not have to add alcoholism to your list of ailments. Believe me, you don't need this illness too. :)

I guess my answer then to your first question would be like the others.

One beer makes me feel COMPELLED to take another. ANd that Beer makes me feel compelled to drink another. After the first beer I do not feel as if there is a choice. I must have another. 2 beers would stimulate me also. They would stimulate me to go find MORE . :)

Good luck on your experiment

StPeteDean · MIP Old Timer

lateforthesky wrote:

thats sort of a cryptic post stdean

True that. I was trying to echo your casualness (if that's a word) about abstaining. It seemed that the brand of beer was more important than your decision, just saying. This program, that we're involved in and care very much about, has only one rule if you want to call it that. "The only requirement for membership (to AA) is a desire to stop drinking". We welcome you to join us, of course it's your decision and only you can determine if you should be here or not. But while you're here please respect why we are here. smile

If you decide that you wish to continue to drink, we respect that decision as well, in fact it's text book to advise individuals, who are on the fence, to go and try some more controlled drinking so that they can determine if it's an issue for them or not. Most of us would say though that abstaining from alcohol for a year or more, while working on these 12 steps that we have would be good for anyone, and especially someone with social or relationship issues.

cooncatbob · Senior Member

Don't have a clue.
Never had just one beer! hmm

lateforthesky · Member

if i wasnt wondering if alcohol was giving me problems i wouldnt have bothered searching google for aa forums

i dont drive drunk in fact ive spent efforts trying to increase penalties

but ive drank beer and ive been kept awake by it and had bad health effects i think,though nothing serious

Tuggboat · Senior Member

What do you call nothing serious sky? The point you make about it being a stimulant normally only occurs in drinkers of our type.

Do you have medicines that might cause this?

Have you ever had blackouts?

Do you hide your drinking or drinks?

There are some signs of impending alcoholism that are better known to professionals. The stimulant idea is one of them. We tend to be more familiar with the more serious symptoms, we are just lay persons. Just regular folks that became alcoholic. We are from all walks of life. Just regular Joes and Janes. We've picked up a lot of knowledge along the way and this is the right place to ask some questions but we aren't professionals and have little knowledge of various other illnesses. We don't make diagnosis here. you have to do that yourself.

If you say your an alcoholic, we'll take your word for it. for a long time I would say I only had a couple when in fact I had had more than that. If you could get to a regular alcoholics Anonymous meeting there are free pamphlets.

Hey i found it online. Answer the questions honestly. Only you know if you are being honest with yourself.

www.aa.org/en_is_aa_for_you.cfm

Sobrietyspell · MIP Old Timer

Tuggboat wrote:

What do you call nothing serious sky? The point you make about it being a stimulant normally only occurs in drinkers of our type.

Do you have medicines that might cause this?

Have you ever had blackouts?

Do you hide your drinking or drinks?

There are some signs of impending alcoholism that are better known to professionals. The stimulant idea is one of them. We tend to be more familiar with the more serious symptoms, we are just lay persons. Just regular folks that became alcoholic. We are from all walks of life. Just regular Joes and Janes. We've picked up a lot of knowledge along the way and this is the right place to ask some questions but we aren't professionals and have little knowledge of various other illnesses. We don't make diagnosis here. you have to do that yourself.

If you say your an alcoholic, we'll take your word for it. for a long time I would say I only had a couple when in fact I had had more than that. If you could get to a regular alcoholics Anonymous meeting there are free pamphlets.

Hey i found it online. Answer the questions honestly. Only you know if you are being honest with yourself.

www.aa.org/en_is_aa_for_you.cfm

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What do you call nothing serious sky? The point you make about it being a stimulant normally only occurs in drinkers of our type.

Do you have medicines that might cause this?

Have you ever had blackouts?

Do you hide your drinking or drinks?

There are some signs of impending alcoholism that are better known to professionals. The stimulant idea is one of them. We tend to be more familiar with the more serious symptoms, we are just lay persons. Just regular folks that became alcoholic. We are from all walks of life; Regular Joes and Janes. We've picked up a lot of knowledge along the way and this is the right place to ask some questions but we aren't professionals and have little knowledge of various other illnesses. We don't make diagnosis here. You have to do that yourself.

If you say youre an alcoholic, we'll take your word for it. For a long time I would say I only had a couple when in fact I had had more than that. If you could get to a regular Alcoholics Anonymous meeting there are free pamphlets.

Hey I found it online. Answer the questions honestly. Only you know if you are being honest with yourself.

www.aa.org/en_is_aa_for_you.cfm

Tuggboat · Senior Member

This must be the cryptic thread? And your point Spell? You would like a larger type? I tried and today it wouldn't work. i wish I could set a default. I must have some kind of security snafu or I'm picking the wrong font.

This is extra large. Go figure. I'll keep working on it. :)

Lifes to short for bugs, Maybe this is the beta editor? no just tried that to?????/

-- Edited by Tuggboat at 22:24, 2008-02-13

lani · MIP Old Timer

This must be the cryptic thread? And your point Spell? You would like a larger type? I tried and today it wouldn't work. i wish I could set a default. I must have some kind of security snafu or I'm picking the wrong font.
Lifes to short for bugs, Maybe this is the beta editor? no just tried that to?????/

Sorry, I cut and pasted this so we could read it! Wow, Im learning...Cant help you with your font stuff tho, sorry...Lani

Sobrietyspell · MIP Old Timer

Tis tiny, Tuggboat!! lol I hope you work your font issue out. We're all still working on our other issues lol Happy Valentine, dear. Danielle x

Tuggboat · Senior Member

heres 14 point. Holy smokes. It works if I set it up front but if I type in quick reply and then selct text and pick sizes and fonts it doesn't/ well we'll go with what works even if we don't understand it eh???

That theory Been workin for me though I am a stickler for wanting to know why something works. :)

Sobrietyspell · MIP Old Timer

Can relate, mate ;) lol Glad you found something that works for you! Bring it all on :D

Tuggboat · Senior Member

lol lol lol

-- Edited by Tuggboat at 18:53, 2008-02-14

lateforthesky · Member

back to say someting i guess