After we stop eating compulsively, we may be tempted to use sleep as a form of escape. Though not as detrimental as excess food, too much sleep can also make us lethargic and dull. The danger lies in allowing ourselves to escape the realities of living, rather than coping with them.We all need adequate rest in order to feel good and function efficiently. Sleep becomes an escape, however, if we take long daytime naps instead of finding worthwhile and enjoyable activities. Just as we may have overeaten because of boredom, we may oversleep because we have nothing better to do.
######ROSIE.......oh yeah, after i began to give UP my compulsive behaviours.....eating...drinking...shopping....fantasy....i was even compulsive about this program, in that i was pushing instead of trusting that it would work.....so for me, i think more sleep is needed cuz i am discharging a TON of anger/grief...soooo much emotional pain....my sponser said the more intense the abuse??? the more intense the emotions....i believe it....i don't know HOW, i got hit with SOO much w/out going totally nuts or dying....my mother, couldn't take his evil.....she deliberately drank herself to death to get out.......so now, i do sleep more bcuz of the draining demanding energy of all this recovery work......the deeper the pain??? the deeper the recovery.....but i DO see BIG gains....i truly believe the worst is over with....now its practicing my wonderful program tools.....teaching myself new and healthy behaviours......rewriting my inner beliefs to those of the TRUTH!!! God's truth........so yeah, i have been exhausted......B4 all this??? i slept to escape the pain of my life......i guess it was another of my compulsions to cope with my life/ my pain/ my hoplessness.......i DID escape the realitys of life/ living....i couldn't stand it otherwise........i could not cope!!!!! this program is teaching me how to cope in a healthy manner......my rest B4 was running away/ escapism......my rest now is recharging my body from the mentally exhausting job of recovering from this....i work a full time job....than i do my recovery work.....my prayer work......my chores in the house..............i love my daytime naps...in summer, i cam out with tennis/ garage saling, swimming...but in winter i am more quiet.....i enjoy long daytime naps....but now i ASK my body.....R we tired???? or can we do something else????? also ptss takes energy from you.....so perhaps for the rest of my life, i am gonna need more sleep/rest.....but AS i feel better, i pray i know the diference between needed rest and escape........
Our Higher Power has a plan for the time and talents He gives us. It is our job to discover how and where we can best serve God and each other. With the new life we are given in OA goes the responsibility to use it productively. Since this is the only life we have, we do not choose to sleep it away. By facing our problems with the help of this program, we learn how to deal with them.Deliver me from indolence.
#######ROSIE.....right now i am doing INTENSE prayer/surrender/ "God work" so i hope AS i learn surrender/ practice surrender, my hp will prompt me as to what i am supposed to do to live my fulfilled life.......i am still in the , i HOPE, the last stages of my grief work, as far as past is concerned.....that when i do my meditations, i ask my HP...."guide my recovery......prompt me as to what do i do"..............no i don't want to sleep it away......i do want to face my issues, and be dispensed of them....facing them is the ONLY way to being free, and i am learning to deal........i don't believe i am indolent for a minute......when i do stuff, i put my "all* into it.....i "go for the gusto" i think i am naturally a passionate and intense person.........that means when i get through the *intense* grief, i shall enjoy *intense* joy....the pendulum i is always equal...........thank you ROSIE
Phil said
Nov 17, 2005
um--Rosie? are you suggesting that I cut out the afternoon naps? and the compulsive, home made strawberry sundaes, in a big bowl? Im over 40 yu know. ....and some of need, those sugar fixes also...lol um-a shorter nap, and a smaller bowel? But...but...but..
Walked outside this morning...reached toward the heavens,...and said, "I surrender for another day"
Since doing that--Hes dumped 4 inches of snow. Is there a lesson here?
Go on knees instead? ok.:) Wele try that. You have a nice day.
rosie light shines said
Nov 17, 2005
PHIL>>>>>>>>>>>>Rosie? are you suggesting that I cut out the afternoon naps? and the compulsive, home made strawberry sundaes, in a big bowl? Im over 40 yu know. ....and some of need, those sugar fixes also...lol um-a shorter nap, and a smaller bowel? But...but...but
ROSIE>>>>>>>>>>.naw , darlin, you eat those strawberries ALL U want....lol....i love them too, have U ever made soy shake smoothies with strawberries????? oooo its good......i get the "nature aid" chocolate soy powder (total meal replacement) and the chocolate soy milk i use "soy silk" OR you can use milk if you want....and than some fresh frozen strawberries......beat in blender, and its a killer of a shake!!!!!!! i have them for breakfast and at supper too, cuz they are SOOO full of nutrition.....so where do ya live to get the snow????? its cold here in dallas.....the temps hit freezing last night and its gonna be cold again tonight, but thank god it eases up and we get back up in the 60's and even 70's.......winter is not so bad...a little bit of snow/ice, but it doesn't last.......i like the snow days off work...lol.........see ya/ rosie
Phil said
Nov 17, 2005
Soy Shake Smoothies?? Hu? Must be a Dallas Cowboy thing.
Nutrition? Nutrition to this kid, Is a Big Mac...followed by a bigggg Cigar. Followed by chocolate. Makes every thing run smooth...then ..of course...hopefully..one doesnt hafta run too far. Eh?
3 hours north of Niagara Falls...in between Ya'll and Redneck Country,.. and Eskimo land. ....and far enough away from Bush...so we dont start a war,..... and if we do, can go over the top wearing snowshoes.
Doll said
Nov 17, 2005
Rosie writes: we may be tempted to use sleep as a form of escape
Seems all I feel like doing is sleep these days. I need a 2 hr nap to get ready for bed! So, finally saw my MD, he drew some blood, just to rule out things that run in my family. His diagnosis after I told him about being in recovery - DEPRESSION. Wanted to put me on meds for it, I declined, fear of trading one addiction for another. I have every confidence this too shall pass. An AA pointed out I could be grieving the loss of my best friend, booze! Others say it's all part of recovery. The 5 stages. My plan, just give it more time.........
Thanks for a good post, Rosie
Doll
Phil said
Nov 18, 2005
Morning Jen. All I can share is...this depression stuff seems to be a common thing with a lot of us.
And sleep.? Booze used to do the thinking for me. Now ...the 2 brain cells that are left..hafta do that.
Its hard work.. thinkin. (smile)
One can get tired very quickly. nap time. zzzzzzzz
Escape into Sleep
After we stop eating compulsively, we may be tempted to use sleep as a form of escape. Though not as detrimental as excess food, too much sleep can also make us lethargic and dull. The danger lies in allowing ourselves to escape the realities of living, rather than coping with them.We all need adequate rest in order to feel good and function efficiently. Sleep becomes an escape, however, if we take long daytime naps instead of finding worthwhile and enjoyable activities. Just as we may have overeaten because of boredom, we may oversleep because we have nothing better to do.
######ROSIE.......oh yeah, after i began to give UP my compulsive behaviours.....eating...drinking...shopping....fantasy....i was even compulsive about this program, in that i was pushing instead of trusting that it would work.....so for me, i think more sleep is needed cuz i am discharging a TON of anger/grief...soooo much emotional pain....my sponser said the more intense the abuse??? the more intense the emotions....i believe it....i don't know HOW, i got hit with SOO much w/out going totally nuts or dying....my mother, couldn't take his evil.....she deliberately drank herself to death to get out.......so now, i do sleep more bcuz of the draining demanding energy of all this recovery work......the deeper the pain??? the deeper the recovery.....but i DO see BIG gains....i truly believe the worst is over with....now its practicing my wonderful program tools.....teaching myself new and healthy behaviours......rewriting my inner beliefs to those of the TRUTH!!! God's truth........so yeah, i have been exhausted......B4 all this??? i slept to escape the pain of my life......i guess it was another of my compulsions to cope with my life/ my pain/ my hoplessness.......i DID escape the realitys of life/ living....i couldn't stand it otherwise........i could not cope!!!!! this program is teaching me how to cope in a healthy manner......my rest B4 was running away/ escapism......my rest now is recharging my body from the mentally exhausting job of recovering from this....i work a full time job....than i do my recovery work.....my prayer work......my chores in the house..............i love my daytime naps...in summer, i cam out with tennis/ garage saling, swimming...but in winter i am more quiet.....i enjoy long daytime naps....but now i ASK my body.....R we tired???? or can we do something else????? also ptss takes energy from you.....so perhaps for the rest of my life, i am gonna need more sleep/rest.....but AS i feel better, i pray i know the diference between needed rest and escape........
Our Higher Power has a plan for the time and talents He gives us. It is our job to discover how and where we can best serve God and each other. With the new life we are given in OA goes the responsibility to use it productively. Since this is the only life we have, we do not choose to sleep it away. By facing our problems with the help of this program, we learn how to deal with them.Deliver me from indolence.
#######ROSIE.....right now i am doing INTENSE prayer/surrender/ "God work" so i hope AS i learn surrender/ practice surrender, my hp will prompt me as to what i am supposed to do to live my fulfilled life.......i am still in the , i HOPE, the last stages of my grief work, as far as past is concerned.....that when i do my meditations, i ask my HP...."guide my recovery......prompt me as to what do i do"..............no i don't want to sleep it away......i do want to face my issues, and be dispensed of them....facing them is the ONLY way to being free, and i am learning to deal........i don't believe i am indolent for a minute......when i do stuff, i put my "all* into it.....i "go for the gusto" i think i am naturally a passionate and intense person.........that means when i get through the *intense* grief, i shall enjoy *intense* joy....the pendulum i is always equal...........thank you ROSIE
um--Rosie? are you suggesting that I cut out the afternoon naps? and the compulsive, home made strawberry sundaes, in a big bowl? Im over 40 yu know. ....and some of need, those sugar fixes also...lol um-a shorter nap, and a smaller bowel? But...but...but..
Walked outside this morning...reached toward the heavens,...and said, "I surrender for another day"
Since doing that--Hes dumped 4 inches of snow. Is there a lesson here?
Go on knees instead? ok.:) Wele try that. You have a nice day.
PHIL>>>>>>>>>>>>Rosie? are you suggesting that I cut out the afternoon naps? and the compulsive, home made strawberry sundaes, in a big bowl? Im over 40 yu know. ....and some of need, those sugar fixes also...lol um-a shorter nap, and a smaller bowel? But...but...but
ROSIE>>>>>>>>>>.naw , darlin, you eat those strawberries ALL U want....lol....i love them too, have U ever made soy shake smoothies with strawberries????? oooo its good......i get the "nature aid" chocolate soy powder (total meal replacement) and the chocolate soy milk i use "soy silk" OR you can use milk if you want....and than some fresh frozen strawberries......beat in blender, and its a killer of a shake!!!!!!! i have them for breakfast and at supper too, cuz they are SOOO full of nutrition.....so where do ya live to get the snow????? its cold here in dallas.....the temps hit freezing last night and its gonna be cold again tonight, but thank god it eases up and we get back up in the 60's and even 70's.......winter is not so bad...a little bit of snow/ice, but it doesn't last.......i like the snow days off work...lol.........see ya/ rosie
Soy Shake Smoothies?? Hu? Must be a Dallas Cowboy thing.
Nutrition? Nutrition to this kid, Is a Big Mac...followed by a bigggg Cigar. Followed by chocolate. Makes every thing run smooth...then ..of course...hopefully..one doesnt hafta run too far. Eh?
3 hours north of Niagara Falls...in between Ya'll and Redneck Country,.. and Eskimo land. ....and far enough away from Bush...so we dont start a war,..... and if we do, can go over the top wearing snowshoes.
Rosie writes: we may be tempted to use sleep as a form of escape
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Seems all I feel like doing is sleep these days. I need a 2 hr nap to get ready for bed! So, finally saw my MD, he drew some blood, just to rule out things that run in my family. His diagnosis after I told him about being in recovery - DEPRESSION. Wanted to put me on meds for it, I declined, fear of trading one addiction for another. I have every confidence this too shall pass. An AA pointed out I could be grieving the loss of my best friend, booze! Others say it's all part of recovery. The 5 stages. My plan, just give it more time.........
Thanks for a good post, Rosie
Doll
Morning Jen. All I can share is...this depression stuff seems to be a common thing with a lot of us.
And sleep.? Booze used to do the thinking for me. Now ...the 2 brain cells that are left..hafta do that.
Its hard work.. thinkin. (smile)
One can get tired very quickly. nap time. zzzzzzzz