Ok, Man, I'm tired of tip toeing around you, fear of offending you has kept my replies to your post "nice". Had someone tip toed around me, I'd probably be 6 feet under right now, and my son would be without a mother, So, here's the truth !

 

From this day forth, if you want to drink, you'll drink, yet you have no idea what made you become the "snivelling whiner" that you are today......ever think the two might go hand in hand?
If you 'admire' people not giving a damn one way or the other, the only thing I'm really seeing is that you have little or no respect for your own life. But hey, it's YOUR life, if you knowingly go into this knowing that you can't drink like regular peoplel, who am I to stop you?

Just curious...Why would you waste your time posting this? If you are gonna drink...drink!
Or are you wanting someone to talk you out of it?

.... and Congratulations your disease is progressing nicely !!

 

Doll

 

I applaud your desire to help, Doll, and admire the effort, but I'm also afraid that not even a little "tough love" is going to help Duane as yet.  I could sense that he was struggling with accepting his alcoholism from the outset. 

Hopefully he will make it through the minefield he has chosen to walk before he finds himself, much the same as I had to do. 

Tough love? Maybe. Didn't see it that way at the time of my posting. I just know it was time for ME to get honest with me.  

I do hope he gets a clue before it's too late.

Thanks, Dan.

Hugs to you

Doll

Right on Doll, where I got sober the grumpy old geezers and the salty old broads tell the newcomer to "Take the cotton out of your ears and stick it in your mouth" and the sign on the wall that says "Think, think, think" that doesn't apply to you your thinkers broken, we'll let you know when it's okay to think. Molly coddle the newcomers then wonder why they go back out. Friday night meeting I go to half the people there are Prop 36 and just there to get there papers signed for the judge. Seems like some of them are just taking up a seat that someone who wants it could be sitting in. But what you going to do only GOD can measure someones desire to stop drinking. Sometimes it the person who looks like they're working a perfect program who goes out and the guy who's struggling who makes it. It's not my job to judge (even though I do sometimes). Bob

Chapter 5

How It Works

Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path.  Those who do not recover are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to this simple program, usually men and women who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. There are such unfortunates. They are not at fault; they seem to have been born that way. They are naturally incapable of grasping and developing a manner of living which demands rigorous honesty. Their chances are less than average.

 

I posted it because I felt like it...it made me feel good. I don't owe you any explanation and let me assure you nothing you say will offend me.

I think one of the tenets of AA is to 'focus on yourself'.  Why are we focussed on Tipsy here? Are AA meetings to get together and focus on the person of the day? And then we can avoid working on ourselves and feel like good 'rescuers'?  How are you doing, Phil?  what's happening in your life that you would like to share with us?  HI, Doll, thanks for trying so hard to help Tipsy here, how are you doing yourself.. something of your experience, strength and hope in the program that Tipsy might benefit from hearing?

My ceiling fell in, and I am still trying to deal with things moment to moment while not going on a dry drunk or a wet one,,  trying to just work those Steps. Step 2,,  I have an understanding of God that I believe today, and can turn things over to His care, when no human being or group is up to being really what all I need, nor can I be all I need for myself.

love to you all in recovery,

amanda