i really see where you are coming from. i guess that maybe i shouldn't haqve jumped the gun with my comment to stans reply. i may have taken for granted that information and not given respect to the fact that not ALL of us knows that.
i have been thinking about our threads yesterday and slept on it. there are just so many people who are going back out there. that i know or my husband, and the excuses they use are really lame. i guess that my knee jerk reaction to the terminology was just that. i have heard all sorts of excuses from a girl just showed up with it, to... well i opened up my moms fridge and there it was. people who do have networks of recovering people. all they had to do is call. which is why the topic receintly has been on the "no mental defense"
i am saying that i am sorry for offending you, not that i think that i have that kind of power. but you did bring something to the table that is vital and useful and i should not have taken my personal feelings and tried to laugh at my desease at the messages expense.
stancamden said
Apr 1, 2005
Hey babes, how can anything you say ever be considered as "offensive"?
You know all I ever do is take the piss, so it was most likely your comment was helpful or deserved.
Is my lobotomy ready yet, please Miss?
stancamden said
Apr 1, 2005
Actually Ellen, having read the thread through now, I think your reaction was a bit over the top and screamed "I am the only riotous person here!".
Maybe you are and maybe you ain't.
I don't know I'm just an old alkie and quite frankly {edited}
Nic said
Apr 1, 2005
Nah...I'm not offended. Figured something must have been going on behind the scenes and am glad you shared it.
Hang in there Ellen. Some folks come and go...stop and start...and we have all dithered or tried to push the boundaries once we thought we had them all squared up. It can send us silly when we so desperately want to see someone doing something other than what they are actually doing... and many a time I have just wanted to shake folks up against a wall and ask them what the hell they think they are doing. But it doesn't work like that, does it? ...Just makes for more thoughts that keep our own adrenalin pumping.
Work with those that do want your help. We all need to do this. They find us at meetings. Or in the street, or wherever we happen to adventure to. There's no point trying to help someone who doesn't want help or just hasn't made it to the end of their adventure. Those situations usually only served me, helped me strengthen my resolve or remind me why I don't want to go back. Those that need help WILL find you. I moved into the middle of nowhere, and I don't know how or why...but folks found me. They just do, because there's something about us that we can recognise in each other. Folks that are ready to stop, don't want the struggle, they want that peaceful bit of us that rises to overcome the obstacles that undo others.
Let em go Ellen. They'll be ok. We have to let our kids fall on their butts, if we want them to learn to walk. It's a bit like that. At least you are doing ok and today has gotta be a better day than any of those we can remember.
All the best.
Now Stan... I got onto Professor VonDunderhead at Manchester hospital and he still has some of the rocks he took outa other folks heads. He is sharpening his scalpel and has pencilled you in for 4pm pommy time. I told him you would still need the bit that sorted numbers. Can you confirm the time with him?
i really see where you are coming from. i guess that maybe i shouldn't haqve jumped the gun with my comment to stans reply. i may have taken for granted that information and not given respect to the fact that not ALL of us knows that.
i have been thinking about our threads yesterday and slept on it. there are just so many people who are going back out there. that i know or my husband, and the excuses they use are really lame. i guess that my knee jerk reaction to the terminology was just that. i have heard all sorts of excuses from a girl just showed up with it, to... well i opened up my moms fridge and there it was. people who do have networks of recovering people. all they had to do is call. which is why the topic receintly has been on the "no mental defense"
i am saying that i am sorry for offending you, not that i think that i have that kind of power. but you did bring something to the table that is vital and useful and i should not have taken my personal feelings and tried to laugh at my desease at the messages expense.
Nah...I'm not offended. Figured something must have been going on behind the scenes and am glad you shared it.
Hang in there Ellen. Some folks come and go...stop and start...and we have all dithered or tried to push the boundaries once we thought we had them all squared up. It can send us silly when we so desperately want to see someone doing something other than what they are actually doing... and many a time I have just wanted to shake folks up against a wall and ask them what the hell they think they are doing. But it doesn't work like that, does it? ...Just makes for more thoughts that keep our own adrenalin pumping.
Work with those that do want your help. We all need to do this. They find us at meetings. Or in the street, or wherever we happen to adventure to. There's no point trying to help someone who doesn't want help or just hasn't made it to the end of their adventure. Those situations usually only served me, helped me strengthen my resolve or remind me why I don't want to go back. Those that need help WILL find you. I moved into the middle of nowhere, and I don't know how or why...but folks found me. They just do, because there's something about us that we can recognise in each other. Folks that are ready to stop, don't want the struggle, they want that peaceful bit of us that rises to overcome the obstacles that undo others.
Let em go Ellen. They'll be ok. We have to let our kids fall on their butts, if we want them to learn to walk. It's a bit like that. At least you are doing ok and today has gotta be a better day than any of those we can remember.
All the best.
Now Stan... I got onto Professor VonDunderhead at Manchester hospital and he still has some of the rocks he took outa other folks heads. He is sharpening his scalpel and has pencilled you in for 4pm pommy time. I told him you would still need the bit that sorted numbers. Can you confirm the time with him?