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I love to write, so I am really sorry If I am boring or doing harms to someone. 

One of the biggest lesson in my life (in my A.A. life) is that I can't depend upon human being. And this is idea that it's so hard for me to let go. But I am really trying, praying and so on and I see that with time I want more and more to depend only on God.

Today I saw in 12x12 this: How frequently we see a frightened human being determined to depend completely upon a stronger person for guidance and protection, This weak one, failing to meet life's responsibilities with his own resources, never grows up. Disillusionment and helplessness are his lot. In time all his protectors either flee or die, and he is once more left alone and afraid.

So today this is in my meditation, because I am searching the things that are blocking me from God. I need to put light on them, to face them, to get rid of them. Everyday is day with opportunity to do so. Which is incredible and I am happy about it, because the spiritual demension has no limitations.

So this is instinct for security. Mostly emotional security. I've never could do the things alone. I've always been searching for someone stronger than me to be with me in doing what I have to do. This is fear of taking reponsibility. Here in A.A. I am learning for the first time to take responsibility for my life, for my actions, for my words, for everything. And there are things that I have to do.

"So our troubles, we think, are basically of our own making. They arise out of ourselves, and the alcoholic is an extreme example of self-will run riot, though he usually doesn't think so."

 


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You don't bore me MOH...And I certainly don't see any harm being done. I actually really enjoy seeing someone taking the time to learn this program....To study that book the way it should be done. Show me someone who has a Big Book that is falling apart....And I'll show you someone who has a life that is staying together. Keep em coming! I love it!!



-- Edited by Stepchild on Thursday 21st of August 2014 01:52:44 PM

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I've already have 3 books that are falling apart. Soon I should buy another. But I don't like out translation, so I am trying with the english one.

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You're doing great. I would imagine that would be a hard book to translate. It's an amazing book. You have to remember it was written in the 1930's....Even our English is a little different today. The guy that does the Big Book study I go to...Reads this before every meeting....It's a different preamble that has been around....He loves what they say about the book. He's been sober 30 years by doing what that book says to do....And he still gets excited about it. Enjoy...

 The Wilmington Preamble

We are gathered here because we are faced with the fact that we are powerless over alcohol and unable to do anything about it without the help of a Power greater than ourselves. We feel that each person's religious views, if any, are his own affair. The simple purpose of the program of Alcoholics Anonymous is to show what may be done to enlist the aid of a Power greater than ourselves regardless of what our individual conception of that Power may be.

In order to form a habit of depending upon and referring all we do to that Power, we must at first apply ourselves with some diligence. By often repeating these acts, they become habitual and the help rendered becomes natural to us.

We have all come to know that as alcoholics we are suffering from a serious illness for which medicine has no cure. Our condition may be the result of an allergy which makes us different from other people. It has never been by any treatment with which we are familiar, permanently cured. The only relief we have to offer is absolute abstinence, the second meaning of A. A.

There are no dues or fees. The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. Each member squares his debt by helping others to recover.

An Alcoholics Anonymous is an alcoholic who through application and adherence to the A. A. program has forsworn the use of any and all alcoholic beverage in any form. The moment he takes so much as one drop of beer, wine, spirits or any other alcoholic beverage he automatically loses all status as a member of Alcoholics Anonymous. A.A. is not interested in sobering up drunks who are not sincere in their desire to remain sober for all time. Not being reformers, we offer our experience only to those who want it.

We have a way out on which we can absolutely agree and on which we can join in harmonious action. Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our program. Those who do not recover are people who will not or simply cannot give themselves to this simple program. Now you may like this program or you may not, but the fact remains, it works. It is our only chance to recover.

There is a vast amount of fun in the A.A. fellowship. Some people might be shocked at our seeming worldliness and levity, but just underneath there lies a deadly earnestness and a full realization that we must put first things first and with each of us the first thing is our alcoholic problem. To drink is to die. Faith must work twenty-four hours a day in and through us or we perish.

In order to set our tone for this meeting I ask that we bow our heads in a few moments of silent prayer and meditation.

I wish to remind you that whatever is said at this meeting expresses our own individual opinion as of today and as of up to this moment. We do not speak for A.A. as a whole and you are free to agree or disagree as you see fit. In fact, it is suggested that you pay no attention to anything which might not be reconciled with what is in the A. A. Big Book.

If you don't have a Big Book, it's time you bought you one. Read it, study it, live with it, loan it, scatter it, and then learn from it what it means to be an A.A.

 

The History Of The Wilmington Preamble

The Wilmington Preamble has long been surrounded by controversy and discussion of such has sparked many a debate almost from its inception in the early years of Alcoholics Anonymous. The history of our fellowship has mostly been passed from member to member over the expanse of many years; member whose very disease has a tendency to distort one's memory. Inaccuracies may prevail. The following is in no way an attempt to dispel those controversies, but an effort to establish an accurate history of the birth of the Wilmington Preamble and to keep it's true history alive for the enlightenment of future generations. Documentable corrections are welcomed.

The Wilmington Preamble's birth ties in with one of Wilmington's earliest members, Shoes L. Shoes joined the Wilmington Group and got sober in May of 1944.The following month in June, Shoes was Chairman of the group and in charge of getting speakers for their meetings. There was at this time a sportswriter in town covering the horse races at Delaware Park. His name was Mickey M. and Shoes asked him to speak at the group's meeting. Mickey replied that he wasn't much of a speaker but that he would write something appropriate. He reportedly went back to his room at the Hotel Dupont and wrote the Wilmington Preamble as we know it and it was read the following Friday night.

Being a sportswriter, Mickey M. covered events in other towns, and while in Baltimore covering the races at Pimlico gave the same preamble to the Baltimore Group which they also adopted as their own. Where it was actually read first is the subject of many debates but one fact remains clear, that this "Preamble" was widely accepted in Maryland and Delaware long before World Service sanctioned the shorter A.A. Preamble that is more universally accepted today.

 

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http://www.barefootsworld.net/aa-oldpreamble.html



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Stepchild, that quote is from the 12 & 12, heaven forbid



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This ---> "An Alcoholics Anonymous is an alcoholic who through application and adherence to the A. A. program has forsworn the use of any and all alcoholic beverage in any form. The moment he takes so much as one drop of beer, wine, spirits or any other alcoholic beverage he automatically loses all status as a member of Alcoholics Anonymous. A.A. is not interested in sobering up drunks who are not sincere in their desire to remain sober for all time" is from and/or in the Akron Pamphlets "Definition of an AA".

The grammar is a little here but I think this say that this is no such thing at "Recovered"

" It has never been by any treatment with which we are familiar, permanently cured."



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I don't have any problem with the 12 & 12. It's good to know why we do the steps...I think it's more important to know how we do the steps. I had an oldtimer tell me that when Bill W. was pushing to get the traditions through....He knew nobody would buy a book just on the traditions...So he wrote a series of essays on the steps to go with it. That makes sense to me.....I guess I probably would have been guilty of not running out and buying a book called the 12 Traditions. There's some good stuff in there.

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The grammar is a little here but I think this say that this is no such thing at "Recovered"

" It has never been by any treatment with which we are familiar, permanently cured."


 They talk about being recovered in the foreward...I think what they mean about being permanently cured...Is we'll never be able to drink normally again. I believe that....I've seen enough people try.



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I never did drink normally. Ever. I puked and passed out the first time I drank and it was pretty much the same the last time I drank (I stopped puking as I developed a cast iron stomach and could swig booze straight towards the end). Anyhow, I drank to get plowed to start with and at the end. I never ever ever had "just a couple" and I still can't even envision it. Maybe that is why I don't struggle with step 1 (as of yet thank HP), but I just know to my core that I NEVER drank normally. Even when still drinking, I don't know if it was my obsession to drink like a normal person. It was more like my obsession to drink like a drunk but without the consequences.

MOH, as far as the taking responsibility and the quote about most of our problems being of our own making (self-will run riot)...It has taken me a while in recovery to adjust to this. Through experience, arguments, mistakes in how I interact and then repeatedly questioning my own motives, I have slowly learned that it ALWAYS comes back to me. Early in recovery, I would stay in anger and confusion and blame of others longer without seeing my part. Now, I am getting quicker at 1. Avoiding drama, problems, and arguments and 2. Seeing my role when they do occur. Life is much more peaceful now that I know pretty much all of my problems were/are due to me and how I think and react.

Love your posts. Keep up the great recovery work!

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A lot us could PC...I could control it early on....I didn't put much of an effort into doing that. They talk about the progressiveness of it in chapter three...

We alcoholics are men and women who have lost the ability to control our drinking. We know that no real alcoholic ever recovers control. All of us felt at times that we were regaining control, but such intervals - usually brief - were inevitably followed by still less control, which led in time to pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization. We are convinced to a man that alcoholics of our type are in the grip of a progressive illness. Over any considerable period we get worse, never better.

BB pg 30

I do believe that we cross a line....And once it's crossed....There is no going back.



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To continue Stepchild ... But what about the real alcoholic? He may start off as a moderate drinker, he may or may not become a continuous hard drinker, but at some stage of his drinking career he begins to lose all control of his liquor consumption, once he starts to drink. BB p.21 ;)

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Amen.

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I was a binge drinker whenever I drank from the start but the frequency is where I really crossed the line. Going from weekends to some weekdays to getting wasted almost every night. In college and grad school I had more ability to put off drinking if I had tests, papers to write, etc...That ability got lost in the last 5 years of my drinking I would say. That is where I really crossed the line from a bad binging alcohol abuser to just a straight up drunk.

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I never understood binge drinkers.....I know a few of them....But I just can't relate. Every day for this alcoholic. I think for me it was as normal as eating.

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I didn't go on days long binges...just drink at night til I passed out. That happened 1 night a week or 2 nights. Then it happened every other night for YEARS so that I could be really productive at work on the "non hangover days" and that went on for years (I know...sick) and then I quit on my own for 4 months...started up again and it truly was like the disease doing pushups. I could drink every night to passing out, whereas before, I would feel too sick from the way I drank to do it 2 nights in a row. That last several months of drinking nightly to the point of falling out of bed...never making it to bed....waking up in strange places, banging into stuff, breaking things, hurting myself....THAT was awful.

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It's pretty amazing where it can take us.

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I seem to believe recoverd being that state of grace where the sanity around alcohol has been restored. Bottom of pg.84 4th edition.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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