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Hi. I'm 37 and I have a serious problems. I gave up hope of ever becoming sober 17 years ago. I decided to drink myself to death. It didn't work. After destroying my kids' lives and losing our home, car and my job, I became temporarily sober for periods of 6 months or so -- never lasting more than a year on the wagon. Usually something would happen like I would get in a fight, and then the drinking would just start again. I drink every day all day, base rocks, and hate life. I can't control myself. I've tried everything but I'm finally ready to give my life up to Jessus. Maybe you can help.

 

 



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Hello and Welcome to MIP!

Glad you have reached out..I have found,based on my own evidence,that just putting down the substance never worked for me,,I found that I needed to reach total acceptance and surrender before I could begin my daily work..The application of the STEPS applied in all areas of my life,worked with a sponsor(one who had more experience than I in this area)guided by God(Higher Power) really was the solution.I also had wanted it more than anything after more than 25 years "out on the tiles"..WE always suggest making meetings,learning to listen and doing the work,,giving back as we gain freedom from the illness.Stick around,don't pick up,find people that aren't using and trust in your Higher Power..Hope to hear more from you..In support and prayer...smile 



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Thanks Im going to tryI just want to get well. I never gone to any meetings before. But I know my dealer has been through the steps.

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If someone is dealing drugs they are not applying the principles of the 12 steps in their life. Get this person out of your life. And get your butt to an AA meeting and pay attention to the people who are really living a SOBER LIFE based on the principles of AA, and who have found a new way to live. Ask them to help you by showing you how they used the 12 steps to get what they got. And then don't drink or use after the meeting, and get your butt to ANOTHER meeting the next day. Repeat.



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idk hes pretty smart about this kind of stuff. im gonna try to go get my uncles car and get to some meeting in dowtown.I sold my car to some methed outpuerto rican guy last year

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Drench, glad you're here. It sounds like you are ready to stop. I tried a lot of times to quit on my own, but it never lasted more than a few months. The good thing about AA is that you don't have to do it on your own anymore. There are a ton of people who want to help you. Like us! I hope you can get to a meeting. Let us know how it goes.

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Hi Drench,

If you really want to stop, then put the plug in the jug (or whatever it is), and get yourself to a meeting. Small steps for little feet, so to speak.

Do you have any questions?

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Hello Drench:

It sounds like you have done pretty well everything except what is required for an alcoholic of our type. It's all right here:

www.aa.org/assets/en_US/p-10_howitworks.pdf

All the best.

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hey hello, I was hoping someone would know where I should go if Im both drug addict and a drinker. i read that AA wont talk about drugs only the drinking which I tried to stop cold turkey a week ago. wound up shitting all over the back of my pants in line at walmart. I want to stop though. got some phenobarbtol online and might eat some tonight to help from shaking

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Some people feel most comfortable and get the best results by going to both Alcoholics Anonymous and other programs like Narcotics Anonymous. But they are all based on the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous and there really isn't that much difference between them. Just get to the meeting, and don't worry about whether it's 'okay' to talk about drugs for right now.

And it sounds like you could really use a visit to a medical doctor. Playing doctor for yourself and buying powerful meds off the internet as a tactic for dealing with alcohol withdrawal is a recipe for disaster. Seriously, that kind of stuff can kill people like us, or at best it will shift our disease from alcoholism to a potentially worse new addiction. Go to a doctor or a free clinic or any place where you can get some legitimate medical assistance and tell them the truth - that you are an alcoholic and a drug user and you are trying to get clean and sober, and you are asking them for PROFESSIONAL medical advice and assistance to help you achieve that.

You said in your first comment that you have tried everything, but then you say that you've never even tried AA yet, and you're buying drugs off the internet instead of getting legitimate medical help. Real help is available, in the form of 12 step programs like AA and medical treatment to get you past the withdrawal. Use it. Seriously - stop trying to deal with this on your own, using the same messed up alcoholic thinking that got you into this situation in the first place. That never worked for any of us. I gave it my best shot for years and it damned near killed me. Once I finally decided to get help from the people in AA, and started doing what had worked for them instead of listening to the crap ideas in my own head, everything changed and I've been completely clean and sober now for many years.

 

 



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Drench,

You can go to an AA meeting and talk about drinking. You can go to an NA meeting and talk about drugs. To me, they are the same disease, but some people don't feel that way.

The phenobarb doesn't sound like a great idea. Can you go to a detox center if that is an issue?

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Welcome to MIP Drench, ... ... ... glad you're here ... my sponsor asked me a question once, he asked 'Are you go'n to go our 'way of life' or are you go'n to go your 'way of life' ??? ...

I said I don't 'want' to do either one ... He said 'I didn't ask you what you wanted to do, I asked what you're go'n to do.' ... ... ... I said, well, the way my life is go'n now sucks to high heaven ... so I guess I go your 'way of life' ... man, are things incredible today for me and so much better for those I love and those around me .... ... ...

Stick around, if you don't drink or use, life will only get better for you ... one drink or one drug never makes any situation better, only worse ...


We'll love ya til you learn to love yourself again,
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I hear you, Drench!

I became so terrified early on that I forget how the other half lived. The prospect of sobriety was something I could never understand, and with good reason. Drinking was the one thing I looked forward to after a tough day at work. But, of course, the days were getting harder and my anxiety was growing deeper. It became a vicious cycle that was so hard to reverse even after my spiritual awakening. It was only after coming here and attending daily A.A. meetings that I began to have some hope. My thought: If others were sober and happy, maybe I could be, too. I'm so glad I took that leap of faith, and so will you.

There's one thing you must understand; it's almost impossible to do this on our own. We all need a 'LOT' of support, especially in the beginning. I basically lived in A.A. -and on this forum- for the first month or so, kinda like switching my obsession from drinking to sobriety. It was the only way I could calm the storms from within.

A.A. has been my go to resource over the past 13 years, but there are alternative methods that can give us and edge as well, like counseling, addiction specialists, and even faith based recovery programs. So you may want to explore those opportunities as well. The choices are endless, but the decision is still ours. I know you'll make the right one, for today.

My life has improved dramatically over the past 13 years in spite of my daily struugles. It's something I've come to appreciate as time goes by and so should you. I've learned so much over the past 13 years that it's hard to give up hope. I suggest you do likewise. Just remember: The fear of getting sober is just an image in our head, nothing more. As long as we stay motivated anything can happen. We'll be praying for you. Onward.



-- Edited by Mr_David on Friday 1st of August 2014 10:22:40 AM

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How ya doin today Drench?

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Drench wrote:

Thanks Im going to tryI just want to get well. I never gone to any meetings before. But I know my dealer has been through the steps.


I've heard a lot of things in AA...I have to admit.....It's the first time I've heard that.

I remember early on for me...There was a sign on the wall in the room where I went to meetings. Very simple little wooden sign. It read...

If nothing changes....Nothing changes.

I'd look at that sign every single day. And as I watched the people around me come and go. I've watched some of them die.  I finally figured out what the hell it meant.

 



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Thats deep. I like it.

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Pythonpappy wrote:

Welcome to MIP Drench, ... ... ... glad you're here ... my sponsor asked me a question once, he asked 'Are you go'n to go our 'way of life' or are you go'n to go your 'way of life' ??? ...

I said I don't 'want' to do either one ... He said 'I didn't ask you what you wanted to do, I asked what you're go'n to do.' ... ... ... I said, well, the way my life is go'n now sucks to high heaven ... so I guess I go your 'way of life' ... man, are things incredible today for me and so much better for those I love and those around me .... ... ...

Stick around, if you don't drink or use, life will only get better for you ... one drink or one drug never makes any situation better, only worse ...


We'll love ya til you learn to love yourself again,
God Bless,got kicked out of my first meeting. I had to beg to get a ride all the way there then when the guy at the front said not to come in because I smelled like liquor. I put it on everything that I ain't drank yesterday but he bascally told me to fuck off. im kind of pissed.
Pappy


 



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How do i make a picture work? i got that guys license plate number for you guys

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here go homies plates.

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A very important Tradition in AA is this - "The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking."

There is no 'rule' in AA that says you can't show up at a meeting still smelling like booze. As long as you can behave and don't disrupt the meeting,

and as long as you have a DESIRE TO STOP DRINKING, you're good to attend.

 

So it's now up to you, as it always has been - do you go back and try again, or give up?

Here's a big hint: What does your alcoholism want you to do? Then don't do that, do the opposite.

 

And I don't know why you are posting a photo of someone's license plate, but that's a bad idea.

Again, what does your messed up alcoholic thinking tell you to do? Then don't do that. 

 

But of course it's your choice.

 



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Dude said I have to bail because I smell like booze and cuz of my boy in the parking lot had his music too loud. I aint drink in like 2 days tho.

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So he gave two different reasons.

The first one, smelling like booze, is not a legit reason to tell someone they can't come in to a meeting and he had no business saying that.

The second one may be legit if the noise might be bothering the neighbors. The meeting has to watch out for itself and make sure they don't allow people to do things that will piss off the neighbors and get the meeting kicked out of the meeting space. It happens, and it sucks for everybody who needs the meeting.

But I wasn't there so I don't know the specifics. All I can offer again is that the NEXT move is your decision.

What do you believe is the RIGHT thing for you to do NOW?



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yea he said someone offered another member some blow. so it was probs my bad after all. legit though idk. Man all I wanted was to go and learn but im not sure if that's what the people in my meeting wanted. maybe I should come back with some nicer clothes or something.

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I doubt your clothing was an issue. The car audio could have done it.

Try a different meeting :).

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Hello its me wrote:

I doubt your clothing was an issue. The car audio could have done it.

Try a different meeting :)I'm glad you came back. it was too loud for sure and heel slang rocks to. I bought some new shirts online to go back looking good. I did all day today without touching nothing I fell pretty good to. thanks for getting my back


 



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Excellent. That's the attitude. Do not let anyone or anything stop you from getting help in AA.



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except for dude with a hard on for my loud music. he said some fucked up shit tho. Shit it aint nothing tho I guess. sober 2 days now

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how much a sponsor cost?

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Drench wrote:

how much a sponsor cost?


 

 

they are priceless 

 



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Drench wrote:

how much a sponsor cost?


No cost. A sponsor is just another AA member who got here sooner than you did and who has had some time to get some experience staying sober and working the 12 steps of AA. And an important part of AA is that once we get sober, we pass it on by helping the next guy, by being a sponsor and showing the new guy what AA is and how to work the 12 steps. Doing this helps the new guy, but it ALSO helps the SPONSOR stay sober.

 

That's how AA started - one alcoholic helping another alcoholic.



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damn like that? How much does it run for me to buy a sponsor. I need one that's gonna be aroud though. I was tryna get out to another meeting next week. I found some bus routes and they go right by that one spot

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Everyone here felt like we couldn't stop.

That's how we ended up in AA.

Some of us have made it...Some of us keep on fighting the good fight.

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Sponsors don't cost anything.

Congrats on two days, clean & dry! Now you need to surround yourself with some people who found a way out of the hell that is alcoholism. You'll meet them at aa meetings.



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If I still care that's the imporatnat thing so I'm going back to meetings tomorrow. I cant stand NOT DOING ANYTHING anymore. I have better clothes now. A nice collared shirt and khaki pants. Ima go again tomorrow at 6. If I get turnt away I just keep coming back until they say its ok for me to be ther. Ima change my life Idc what anyone says

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