A.A. Group Home Page
A.A. Meeting/Chat Room
Technical Problems or Questions?
Work Board - A Step each week!
Music to Enjoy while
**By clicking the "Donate" graphic above you will be taken to paypal.com where you can make a donation amount of your choice to ensure this site stays fully self supporting through its members contributions. Any amount you donate will be appreciated and valued. Thank you!
Alcoholics Anonymous GroupMessage Board
Online MeetingsTuesday and Saturday Nites at 9Pm Eastern Time! Saturday Morning 11AM est
So I have been sober for 4 months and was wondering if it was okay to have non-alcoholic beer?
Not like downing a six pack or anything like that, just having one when you go out to dinner or something.
One of the really cool things about AA is, you can do what ever you want to do, and you can do it as long as you can stand it. For me, drinking " non " alcoholic beer is like taking a shower with a rain coat on. Whats the point. "Non" alcoholic beer isn't really non alcoholic beer any way. There is a little alcohol in it.
I used to go to AA meetings at a club in Vegas that had a smoking and a non smoking room. I had quit smoking one time, and would go into the smoking room, just to get a whiff. I wasn't smoking, what was the harm. The truth was I really want happy about not smoking. I still secretly wanted to smoke. It was only a matter of time till I picked up a smoke.
A little excerpt from our AA Big book pg 151-152
Now and then a serious drinker, being dry at the moment says, "I dont miss it at all. Feel better. Work better. Having a better time." As ex-problem drinkers, we smile at such a sally. We know our friend is like a boy whistling in the dark to keep up his spirits. He fools himself. Inwardly he would give anything to take half a dozen drinks and get away with them. He will presently try the old game again, for he isnt happy about his sobriety. He cannot picture life without alcohol. Some day he will be unable to imagine life either with alcohol or without it. Then he will know loneliness such as few do. He will be at the jumping-off place. He will wish for the end.
Since it cost a lot to win, and even more to loose, you and me gotta spend some time just wondering what to choose.
I had a similar experience to Dean except there was no NA beer available back then. I had three months up and was back in the bar with my old friends who, incidentally, had not bothered to visit me when I was in the nut farm, and I was drinking soft drink of some sort. Someone passed me a joint, I took one puff, then went and bought a beer. My three months was gone in seconds after that puff. The point for me was that I was back in my old way of thinking, trying to live the same way without the alcohol, looking for that vicarious pleasure buzz. I went into that peculiar mental blank spot where no thought of the consequences can get through, the mind altering chemical changed the way I felt about alcohol, I drank, the phenomenon of craving kicked in and I was on that down hill slide again. It happened in seconds through me being in the wrong place and, having not taken the steps and had a spiritual awakening, having no defence against the first drink. Why had I not taken the steps? Because I did not realise the seriousness of my condition.
Walking with curiosity.
The best advice Angela is to leave it alone, like everyone said. Welcome to "MIP" though.
I think there's an invisible principle of living...if we believe we're guided through every step of our lives, we are. Its a lovely sight, watching it work.
My eldest son went dry for a long time and kept a Near Beer in the refrigerator. One night when we were over for dinner he admitted that he was always soooo aware that it was there and couldn't tell what else was. He asked me for some feedback on it and I told him that for me it was like "flirting" with an old girl friend; for me. Near Beer came out in the late 50's for a reason and all the guys that I drank with did a taste test one night and didn't finish the 8oz cans it came in...Not because it didn't taste like beer and for that it just didn't give us what we were looking for. My sponsor told me I was going to have to get away from all things alcohol and I have and I am sober and serene. Keep coming back and don't feel bad because of the responses of a buncha ole sober guys...what do they know!!
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you got.BB
When all else fails - RTFM
I may have been sober before today, But I've never been sober today before :)
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference.
When I drank I my brain didn't crave the taste it craved the effects I got from drinking. Near beer might be like pretend drinking, I never pretend drank and I don't pretend recovery. Walking past beer in the grocery store cooler is as near as I care to get.
Tell me and I'll forget. Teach me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll learn.
Welcome Angela! My experience is like the others here. I would drink NA beer because I wanted to fit in and pretend to be drinking. With no effect it sucked. I was camping once and ran out of NA beer. I went back to the store to buy more. Sound familiar? WTF? Ran out of NA beer..... I'm an alcoholic. More of anything please. I was just fooling myself and reserving my right to drink some time in the future. Damn, that peculiar mental twist won again.
I had all emotional, mental, and physical characteristics present, but the effect/solution had changed. I was drinking the real stuff soon after and off an running. Wash, rinse & repeat.
Light a man a fire and he's warm for a night, set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life
Not all my days are priceless, but none of my days are worthless, anymore.
A few weeks ago I tried a can of what is a 0.0 percent lager in Spain. It tasted ok, but I won't be drinking it again, diet coke is better. I don't feel I had a slip or anything like that, but I did find myself wondering what good it did me and what business I had drinking it. It had no effect on me regarding cravings etc, if anything made me realise how much I don't want to drink again.Certainly I'd recommend against it. In some ways I feel it had a positive influence on me, but I wouldnt recommend doing so. It's unnecessary and best avoided, in my opinion.
As someone said, I realised it's not for me, and that my sobriety needs more work than I've given it in recent months.
Thanks Dean, glad to be here.Chaya - Funny thing is, it was actually enough to make me realise I don't want anything from the old days back in my life. I experienced nothing except the taste, and realise that it wasn't really that great. Nothing I'd go out of my way to have again, or indeed that I'd choose over other options.I feel that with hindsight it was a bad idea trying it but has had a positive outcome in that I now don't want to go near the stuff. My life is so much fuller without real or fake that I'm better off with what I know with certainty I will be comfortable with. If only I could find some real Mountain Dew over here, now that would hit the spot...
Heyyyy you know whats funny i had my four months on dcember 14th congrats to you..the funny thing is i was thinking the same excat thing....Thats so funny i was talking to my sponser about that she said everyone works the program different i know someone that said it makes their craving go away then you got some people that will go and say your not sober or blah blah blah ive actualy tried it its got vey very little alcohol in it but when my parents go out to dinner thats what i had one cause they still drink and it helped a little bit but you know no one can really tell you what and what not to do...Im sure a handful of people tried it before cause they was curious.. then their some people who it makes them go back to normal alcohol...have you asked your sponser see what he or she says
very well said!