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I was a binge drinker, 2-5 times a week. There was no rhyme or reason as to when I picked up. I just drank when I drank and my binge never lasted more than 12-15 hours, I always passed out at some point before the sun came up. For a 115lb gal I have a HUGE capacity for alcohol and the hangovers would be so severe I couldn't drink the next day and in the end sometimes not for 3-5 days after. So my relapses followed my usual drinking pattern. The times I went back out were for 10-15 hours, I'd "nurse" the hangover and go back to AA. Sometimes I'd get 30 days, sometimes 90 and once I even made it to 10 months. I was talking to a guy I've known for over 20 yrs. He's been in and out of AA for that 20 yrs and has never managed to put together 6 months. When sharing my last relapse (I hope my very last) he said, "OMG! I wouldn't even call that a relapse. I had a glass of wine the other night, just one, and I don't consider that a relapse or a slip." So, of course you all know how this alcoholic brain thinks, I started to wonder because AA is a program of abstinence. I think 1 glass of anything or even 1 swallow would be a relapse.......Of course, I think this guy is setting himself up and / or justifying......Your thoughts?
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There was one time that I poured myself a glass of apple cider and when I took the first mouthful I realized that it had fermented but I drank the entire glass anyway. When I told a good A.A. friend about it, he told me not to consider it a slip which was a wise thing to say. If I had considered it a slip I would have said "what the hell, why don't I go out and get really drunk" because at that time I hadn't completely surrendered.
About a year ago I was out shopping and it was fairly hot. I was really thirsty when I got home and got a big glass of cider. I quickly drank two big mouthfuls and then realized that it had fermented. The rest of the glass and the remainder in the fridge went down the drain immediately. That was certainly not a slip because I stopped as soon as I realized what was happening.
The wine drinker needs to stop screwing around with A.A. and drink until he hits bottom and is willing to do whatever it takes to get sober.
In respect to drugs other than alcohol, you can't be high and sober at the same time.
Drinking one glass of wine would be devastating for me. It would be worse than just a slip and I would probably be dead or something even worse. I know that I have never had just one drink, ever!I had a slip in my thinking 3 weeks ago and I should have came here or found a meeting. I was out of town working in a very high stress situation. I was completely overwhelmed with the pressure of the job, working crazy hours, and not getting much rest. When I went to supper that night I passed a restaurant/bar that had a sign out front that said "Long Island Ice Tea $4". This is what went thru my mind: I was 500 miles away from home, nobody will know, I can probably have just one, and the price of long islands hasn't went up since I got sober. That is the closest I have come to drinking in 11 years. I know in my heart that I am an alcoholic and still remember the pain. I called my wife and talked to her about how I was feeling, then had dinner and went to bed. It amazes me that I can still have stinking thoughts like I did that night.
Doll wrote:Actually O'Douls contains a small amount of alcohol........Awesome feedback, MIP! Thanks!
Actually O'Douls contains a small amount of alcohol........Awesome feedback, MIP! Thanks!
StPeteDean wrote:Now my other friend, who was a sponsor of mine for a year, is obsessed about the opposite. Every time we go to a restuarant he has to quiz the waiter about the salad dressing and the sauces, deserts, coffee..... with this wild eyed look on his face like "I'll kill you if you're wrong". I don't even want to go out with him anymore
That sounds like more of a test than dating a vegan!!!